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March 01, 2016, 08:54:45 AM
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債権者 各位

 平成28年2月17日の債権調査期日において、当職は、株式会社MTGOX(以下「MTGOX」といいます。)のビットコイン取引所のユーザーから届け出られたMTGOXに対するBTC及び金銭の返還に関する債権(以下「取引所関係破産債権」といいます。)のうち、一部の債権について認否をしました。
一方、さらなる調査を要する届出債権、又は取引所関係破産債権の届出金額が当職が把握している預かり残高の金額より多い届出債権については、今回、認否を留保しました。なお、金銭の預託に基づく取引所関係破産債権を届け出た債権者(BTCの預託に基づく取引所関係破産債権もともに届け出た債権者を含みます。)については、MTGOXに残されたユーザー情報等をさらに確認する必要があり、現時点で認否できる状況ではないため、全て認否を留保しています。
 当職が同債権調査期日において行った認否の結果を、ウェブサイト上で取引所関係破産債権の届出をできるシステム(https://claims.mtgox.com/assets/index.html#/ )にアップロードしましたので、当該システムにログインし、「債権認否結果を確認する」のボタンを押して、ご確認ください。また、当該システムにログインし、「債権認否一覧表」のPDFのリンクをクリックすれば、取引所関係破産債権の全てについての届出内容とそれに対する当職の認否内容が記載された認否書を閲覧することもできます(一部の内容はマスキングしています。)。

当該システムにログインして「債権認否結果を確認する」のボタンを押して出てきた債権認否結果の表で貴殿の届出金額が全て認められている場合、貴殿が届け出た債権は全て認められましたので、貴殿は認否につき特段行うべきことはありません。今後の手続については、配当手続に進んだ時期にご連絡する予定です。
一方、「債権認否結果を確認する」のボタンが表示されず認否結果を確認できない場合、貴殿が届け出た債権についての認否は留保されました。当職は、今回認否を留保した取引所関係破産債権については、今後、平成28年5月25日に予定されている次の債権調査期日までに、さらなる調査を行う予定です。貴殿が届け出た債権の認否が留保された理由として、届出金額が、当職が把握している預かり残高の金額より多い可能性があり、その場合、当職は、追って、貴殿に対し、届出金額の減額変更を求める連絡をする可能性があります。当職が当該連絡をした場合、当該連絡に従って届出金額の減額変更をしていただければ、当職は、平成28年5月25日に予定されている次の債権調査期日において、減額変更後の届出金額を認める旨の認否をする予定です。
 認否については、ウェブサイト(https://www.mtgox.com/ )でもお知らせしていますので、ご参考下さい。

破産者株式会社MTGOX 破産管財人弁護士小林信明

To all creditors,

On the date of the investigation of claims which took place on February 17, 2016, I approved or disapproved a portion of the claims against to MtGox Co., Ltd. (“MTGOX”) regarding the refund of BTC and money which were filed by the users of MTGOX’s Bitcoin exchange (the “Bankruptcy Claims Related to Exchange”).
On the other hand, this time, I reserved my right to approve or disapprove filed claims which need further investigation or those for which the filed amounts of the Bankruptcy Claims Related to Exchange that was filed are greater than the amounts of the deposit balance that we are aware of.  In addition, I reserved my right to approve or disapprove all claims filed by creditors who filed Bankruptcy Claims Related to Exchange based on the deposits of money (including creditors who filed Bankruptcy Claims Related to Exchange based on deposits of BTC), since it is necessary to further verify user information, etc. remaining at MTGOX and, at present, I am not in a position where I can approve or disapprove the above.  I uploaded the results of the approval or disapproval given on the date of the investigation of claims to the system under which you can file Bankruptcy Claims Related to Exchange through the website (https://claims.mtgox.com/assets/index.html#/), so please confirm the results by clicking the icon which states “Confirm the Results of Approval or Disapproval of the Claims” after logging into the said system.  In addition, if you click the link to the PDF file of the “List of Approval or Disapproval of the Claims” after logging into the system, you will be able to browse through my statements of approval or disapproval that set forth the contents of filings and the contents of approval or disapproval thereto with respect to all Bankruptcy Claims Related to Exchange (they are partly masked).

If the table of results of approval or disapproval that is displayed by clicking the icon that states “Confirm the Results of Approval or Disapproval of the Claims” after logging into such system shows that all the amounts that you filed have been approved, all claims that you filed have been approved and you do not have to do anything in particular at this stage.  I will contact you with respect to future procedures when we have progressed to the stage of making distributions.
On the other hand, if you cannot find your results of approval or disapproval even if you click the icon that states “Confirm the Results of Approval or Disapproval of the Claims”, I reserve my right to approve or disapprove the claims that you filed.  I will conduct further investigations in the future in respect of the Bankruptcy Claims Related to Exchange for which I reserved my right to approve or disapprove this time, by the date of the next investigation of claims that is scheduled for May 25, 2016.  The reason for the reservation of my right to approve or disapprove the claims that you filed may be due to the possibility that the filed amount is greater than the amount of the deposit balance that we are aware of, and in such case, I may request you to change it by decreasing the filed amount.  If I make such a request, I will approve the filed amount after decreasing it as of the date of the next investigation of claims that is scheduled for May 25, 2016, if you change the filed amount by decreasing it in accordance with such request.

Please also refer to the website (https://www.mtgox.com/ ) with respect to approvals and disapprovals.

Bankrupt Entity: MtGox Co., Ltd.
Bankruptcy Trustee: Nobuaki Kobayashi, Attorney-at-law


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I have been able to log in, but I have not been able to view the results pdf. When I click the results button I get this error:

"The server could not be contacted or returned an error. This could be due to very high traffic, network issues or ongoing maintenance. Please try again later. "

Has anyone else had progress or know any information I don't?

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March 01, 2016, 09:04:49 AM
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I'm curious to find out how much GoxBTC ends up being worth. Good luck Bitcoin Builderers
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March 01, 2016, 09:30:30 AM
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1 GoxBTC =  $463 USD reimbursement based on the value on the day and time trading halted.

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March 01, 2016, 09:54:50 AM
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Most of the creditors accepted being refunded on Bitcoin, so 1 GoxBTC = 1 BTC (IF they're refunded). Kraken said recently they're on good track to help get Bitcoins back to people. I wonder where are these supposed funds coming from...

Has anyone out there got any coins? Highly doubt it... Gotta see it to believe it.
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March 01, 2016, 10:52:56 AM
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Hopefully everyone will be able to get something back. MtGox is really the worst news ever for the bitcoin community.

I was lucky that they were still in the process of verifying my registration, and I didn't get the chance to deposit/trade any BTC or cash.
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March 01, 2016, 11:21:26 AM
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Is every former MTGOX client automatically part of the claim or was there a requirement to physically file a claim.    I got a few letters (in what looked like Chinese that came to my home address to).  Haven't had any in a few years.  Not even sure what I did with them.
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March 01, 2016, 02:44:26 PM
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1 GoxBTC =  $463 USD reimbursement based on the value on the day and time trading halted.

thought u where quoting todays value for a second $436 

getting closer to the halving breakout Smiley

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March 01, 2016, 04:42:37 PM
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i am not a user of Mt GOX, but i was very curious about what is going on mt GOX and users, whether this is the first email response from mt GOX for claims? after all this time they still?

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March 01, 2016, 09:23:41 PM
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It has been an ongoing process. Slow but steady. You can find every single announcement since 2014 by visiting https://www.mtgox.com/

You had to be paying attention the whole way along. You wouldn't be able to file any claim presently.

They had to be submitted perfectly and accurately within a specific window of time and jump over hurdles like signing up to Kraken and going through the 4 tier verification system all over again.

It's getting close to the end now.

I'm highly excited at the possibility of getting my share back. I originally concluded two years ago that  I would have no chance of getting any of it back.

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March 01, 2016, 10:38:47 PM
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If they redistribute some btc it will be interesting to see if bitcoinbuilder pays out anything  Huh
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March 02, 2016, 12:02:44 AM
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I'm surprised that they actually are aiming to refund as many people as possible, I thought this was a massive inside job that was going to end with the owner and higher-ups walking away with stacks full of cash, not the company actually indenting to refund the money.

Good news, maybe this'll bring a few people back.
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March 02, 2016, 12:05:30 AM
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MtGox can return.

No just kidding, he can not.
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March 02, 2016, 12:13:34 AM
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I'm surprised that they actually are aiming to refund as many people as possible, I thought this was a massive inside job that was going to end with the owner and higher-ups walking away with stacks full of cash, not the company actually indenting to refund the money.

Good news, maybe this'll bring a few people back.

Definitely good news and an interesting development.  I did not expect to hear about that many refunds and assumed people were just out of luck.

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March 02, 2016, 12:28:20 AM
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I'm surprised that they actually are aiming to refund as many people as possible, I thought this was a massive inside job that was going to end with the owner and higher-ups walking away with stacks full of cash, not the company actually indenting to refund the money.

Good news, maybe this'll bring a few people back.

Definitely good news and an interesting development.  I did not expect to hear about that many refunds and assumed people were just out of luck.
I'm sure that far more people thought the same thing than both you and I realize.

Of course, the mass media will never cover this, regardless of how much they covered the initial collapse of Mt. Gox, because fear always sells better than a positive event.
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March 02, 2016, 06:52:53 AM
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I'm surprised that they actually are aiming to refund as many people as possible, I thought this was a massive inside job that was going to end with the owner and higher-ups walking away with stacks full of cash, not the company actually indenting to refund the money.

Good news, maybe this'll bring a few people back.

Definitely good news and an interesting development.  I did not expect to hear about that many refunds and assumed people were just out of luck.
I'm sure that far more people thought the same thing than both you and I realize.

Of course, the mass media will never cover this, regardless of how much they covered the initial collapse of Mt. Gox, because fear always sells better than a positive event.

It's good news, but I wouldn't celebrate before anybody actually receives some bitcoin back.  Best case scenario it is only a fraction anyway. 
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March 02, 2016, 07:09:33 AM
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Most of the creditors accepted being refunded on Bitcoin, so 1 GoxBTC = 1 BTC (IF they're refunded). Kraken said recently they're on good track to help get Bitcoins back to people. I wonder where are these supposed funds coming from...

Has anyone out there got any coins? Highly doubt it... Gotta see it to believe it.

Didn't they recover around 200k btc from their wallets? Not even close to all the coins that were lost, but probably enough to do a partial refund to most people. Maybe they also made some money from selling the assets, etc.

They have put so much time and effort in this, that they will for sure get parts of their coins back, you need to doubt that. The only question is how much longer will it take.
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March 02, 2016, 08:10:25 AM
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Most of the creditors accepted being refunded on Bitcoin, so 1 GoxBTC = 1 BTC (IF they're refunded). Kraken said recently they're on good track to help get Bitcoins back to people. I wonder where are these supposed funds coming from...

Has anyone out there got any coins? Highly doubt it... Gotta see it to believe it.

Didn't they recover around 200k btc from their wallets? Not even close to all the coins that were lost, but probably enough to do a partial refund to most people. Maybe they also made some money from selling the assets, etc.

They have put so much time and effort in this, that they will for sure get parts of their coins back, you need to doubt that. The only question is how much longer will it take.

Yes, they supposedly did. I don't know if those funds will be used for refunding.

Don't be so certain until payouts start being visible (and they will be visible if they happen).
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March 02, 2016, 08:57:10 AM
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It has been an ongoing process. Slow but steady. You can find every single announcement since 2014 by visiting https://www.mtgox.com/

You had to be paying attention the whole way along. You wouldn't be able to file any claim presently.

They had to be submitted perfectly and accurately within a specific window of time and jump over hurdles like signing up to Kraken and going through the 4 tier verification system all over again.

It's getting close to the end now.

I'm highly excited at the possibility of getting my share back. I originally concluded two years ago that  I would have no chance of getting any of it back.

Same here. I had a few coins in gox at the end that I couldn't get out. So I averaged them down through Bitcoin builder, at the end you could get them as low as ~0.04 gox/btc. I ended up with a cost basis of 0.1gox/bitc. Coincidentally that's not far off what btcbuilder offered to buy them back for a while ago.

Like you'd I'd written them off mentally so anything I get back is a bonus! I was hoping for 20% but anything over 10% is break even!

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April 05, 2016, 12:50:54 PM
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Where can I follow the attempts to trace the missing coins?

Do we need to keep checking back all the time or can we relax a bit, forgot about it and wait for emails...

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I only have small amount in Mt Gox so I guess I will just wait for further announcement. Not sure how our friend Mark doing in behind the bars... or has he been released? Any news?
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