tracibility of bitcoins

[owm123]

i did some research and came up with what I 'think' could work, i didn't see anyone else mention this exactly, but logically to me it makes since.

here is goes

i get paid in bitcoins, but remember, can't use bank account with it as it's traceable
so money goes into wallet 1
wallet 1 sends to mixer1
mixer1 sends to wallet 2
wallet 2 sends to mixer2
mixer2 sends to wallet3
wallet3 sends to mixer3
mixer3 sends to wallet4, and from wallet4 I connect my bank account to it

so we have 3 mixers here, all 3 would have to cooperate with the Goverment, i don't think that's too likely

Also I would look for mixer companies in countries like N Korea, China, Russia, Iran...

Let me know what you guys think of this and please do add/modify your own suggestions

And I also would like to know if mixer companies are bound by same regulations of disclosing customers as the bitcoin ones are

If you really worry about tractability of Bitcoin, maybe you could use something that was actually designed to be anonymous, and avoid all this, what seems to be, a complicated plan on using bitcoin in a anonymous way. Bitcoin was not designed to be anonymous (http://www.bitcoinisnotanonymous.com/). It is pseudo-anonymous. All these additional steps you are trying to do, are only increasing your chance to "f**k it up" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1q4Ir2J8P8).

[gvuandrew]

what about https://xmr.to/ that previous guy mentioned?

also why specifically do you feel the strategy i just mentioned is traceable? what about it specifically do you feel causes the problem?

[dollarneed]

what about https://xmr.to/ that previous guy mentioned?

also why specifically do you feel the strategy i just mentioned is traceable? what about it specifically do you feel causes the problem?

after reading this thread, i just realized that monero is cool to mixing our coin to, as we know that monero is one of a private and untraceable coin i think it's pretty cool,
about the strategy that you just mentioned i think bitmixer has it, this is one of the best and longest mixing service here, why not to try this service?

[Herbert2020]

for most of us anonymity that comes with a mixer is enough, you send the coins to the mixer and receive it back after a time period that you set in a couple of transactions with different fees.

but i think you still can add an extra layer of anonymity to cover the tracks and that is using an altcoin in the middle, you can use a service like shapeshift to exchange bitcoin to another altcoin and then convert it back to bitcoin in another place.

but all of these will have accumulative fees that you must pay so if you don't need anonymity that much just stick with simple routines of changing address and maybe use a mixer once.

[EdenHazard]

Hi, I've never used bitcoins, but reading a lot on the subject.

I'm not using for laundering or criminal activity, actually I'm an online affiliate and where my 'criminal' part comes in is just a bit black hat seo, that could cause some issues with people, not jail time or anything, but still I want to remain anonymous to be extra safe.

Here is what I was thinking of doing, but I need some advice here fellows

The payments I earn from companies will go to 3rd party and that person will pay me in bitcoins.  This person will not know me, I'll be anonymous to him.
But from what I'm reading, I MUST link my bank account to the bitcoin account. I'm not dealing with small amounts. I'm dealing in the 10,000's per month so it's not going to work with finding small sellers dealing in cash.

Now let's say the US Gov comes down on me and is on my track. If they demand from the bitcoin company with a warrant then they will simply give my bank account. So what can I do if anything? What do these professional hackers do that tell people 'pay up 100k or else you are finished', they obviously have some system in place.

Thanks

you have right option,if you choose bitcoin for anonymous payment. you just have to do some step,making bitcoin wallet without adding your banks account and personal ID,and than do transaction without notes.

[odolvlobo]

If your goal is to break any links to the person that pays you, then a mixer will do that (but, can you trust the mixer?).

However, in the U.S., you will still have a problem. If you are regularly converting large amounts of bitcoins, the exchange (or whoever does the conversion) will require you to disclose the source of your bitcoins. If you don't, they will ban you.

[Amph]

If your goal is to break any links to the person that pays you, then a mixer will do that (but, can you trust the mixer?).

However, in the U.S., you will still have a problem. If you are regularly converting large amounts of bitcoins, the exchange (or whoever does the conversion) will require you to disclose the source of your bitcoins. If you don't, they will ban you.

what about you are the owner of the minxer? it's not like it is not possible

also if this is done after converting large amount from fiat, then any mixer will be pointless