What are negative trust ratings for?

[Your Point Is Invalid]

I need to know what negative trust ratings are for
To my knowledge, negative trust is left on the accounts of those who are scammers or those that the person leaving the trust think that are scammers but I have been seeing people leave negative trust for reasons that have nothing to do with scamming, just their opinion

When I look on the trust page, I see the following,

Negative - You were scammed or you strongly believe that this person is a scammer.

If a person leaves negative trust for none of the above reasons, is it not abuse of the system?

[FruitsBasket]

I need to know what negative trust ratings are for
To my knowledge, negative trust is left on the accounts of those who are scammers or those that the person leaving the trust think that are scammers but I have been seeing people leave negative trust for reasons that have nothing to do with scamming, just their opinion

When I look on the trust page, I see the following,

Negative - You were scammed or you strongly believe that this person is a scammer.

If a person leaves negative trust for none of the above reasons, is it not abuse of the system?

Some people say that it is your opinion to leave trust as you want to,but others say that it nusst be valid feedback.
I don't think there are any rules of giving feedback, since no one but you has power to leave feedback from ur own account.
This is a good question though, since I don't really know the answer.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I need to know what negative trust ratings are for
To my knowledge, negative trust is left on the accounts of those who are scammers or those that the person leaving the trust think that are scammers but I have been seeing people leave negative trust for reasons that have nothing to do with scamming, just their opinion

When I look on the trust page, I see the following,

Negative - You were scammed or you strongly believe that this person is a scammer.

If a person leaves negative trust for none of the above reasons, is it not abuse of the system?

If you noticed,  I removed my neg on you for this reason.   It was done in anger and I reconsidered. 

[Your Point Is Invalid]

I need to know what negative trust ratings are for
To my knowledge, negative trust is left on the accounts of those who are scammers or those that the person leaving the trust think that are scammers but I have been seeing people leave negative trust for reasons that have nothing to do with scamming, just their opinion

When I look on the trust page, I see the following,

Negative - You were scammed or you strongly believe that this person is a scammer.

If a person leaves negative trust for none of the above reasons, is it not abuse of the system?

If you noticed,  I removed my neg on you for this reason.   It was done in anger and I reconsidered. 

I noticed but the act is still being practiced by other members, i just want a mod to come in and clearly say what negative trust should be used for so this thread can be used as a reference

[Stroto]

As long as there is no clawback (pun intended  ) for the misusage of trust there will be no changes

[AgentofCoin]

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I noticed but the act is still being practiced by other members, i just want a mod to come in and clearly say what negative trust should be used for so this thread can be used as a reference

There are no real rules as to this issue.
The Trust System is not regulated by the Mods.

There is nothing you can do about invalid negative trust,
other than request the person who gave it to you, to reconsider.

Chances are if you received negative trust, it falls under one of the following:
1. broke a forum rule,
2. attempting to scam,
3. have scammed,
4. begging,
5. being a troll
6. send pm solicitations,
7. spams with or without sig campaign
8. sold account
9. etc etc etc

There are may reasons why to give negative trust, outside of scamming members.


Edit: added the following

There are no rules/guidelines for giving trust, that I'm aware of, except for:
1. do not trust farm
2. do not use your alts to give your other alts or main account, positive trust.

But both there two above, are also not regulated by Mods.

[Your Point Is Invalid]

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I noticed but the act is still being practiced by other members, i just want a mod to come in and clearly say what negative trust should be used for so this thread can be used as a reference

There are no real rules as to this issue.
The Trust System is not regulated by the Mods.

There is nothing you can do about invalid negative trust,
other than request the person who gave it to you, to reconsider.

Chances are if you received negative trust, it falls under one of the following:
1. broke a forum rule,
2. attempting to scam,
3. have scammed,
4. begging,
5. being a troll
6. send pm solicitations,
7. spams with or without sig campaign
8. sold account
9. etc etc etc

There are may reasons why to give negative trust, outside of scamming members.
There are no rules, that I'm aware of.

If all 9 0f those are valid reasons, why are only 2 reasons listed on the official page?

[Dorrittulx]

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I noticed but the act is still being practiced by other members, i just want a mod to come in and clearly say what negative trust should be used for so this thread can be used as a reference

There are no real rules as to this issue.
The Trust System is not regulated by the Mods.

There is nothing you can do about invalid negative trust,
other than request the person who gave it to you, to reconsider.

Chances are if you received negative trust, it falls under one of the following:
1. broke a forum rule,
2. attempting to scam,
3. have scammed,
4. begging,
5. being a troll
6. send pm solicitations,
7. spams with or without sig campaign
8. sold account
9. etc etc etc

There are may reasons why to give negative trust, outside of scamming members.
There are no rules, that I'm aware of.

Hello, this list is incorrect. Sorry, try again. That is not what red trust is meant for according to the official forum rules.

Being a troll or begging is clearly not what red trust is meant for so please sir do your research before attempting to give a proper reply.

[AgentofCoin]

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There are no real rules as to this issue.
The Trust System is not regulated by the Mods.

There is nothing you can do about invalid negative trust,
other than request the person who gave it to you, to reconsider.

Chances are if you received negative trust, it falls under one of the following:
1. broke a forum rule,
2. attempting to scam,
3. have scammed,
4. begging,
5. being a troll
6. send pm solicitations,
7. spams with or without sig campaign
8. sold account
9. etc etc etc

There are may reasons why to give negative trust, outside of scamming members.
There are no rules, that I'm aware of.

Hello, this list is incorrect. Sorry, try again. That is not what red trust is meant for according to the official forum rules.

Being a troll or begging is clearly not what red trust is meant for so please sir do your research before attempting to give a proper reply.

Lol! You would get negative trust for being a troll, Dorito.
There are no rules for giving trust.

Please provide link to "official forum rules" as to providing trust.

[Your Point Is Invalid]

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I noticed but the act is still being practiced by other members, i just want a mod to come in and clearly say what negative trust should be used for so this thread can be used as a reference

There are no real rules as to this issue.
The Trust System is not regulated by the Mods.

There is nothing you can do about invalid negative trust,
other than request the person who gave it to you, to reconsider.

Chances are if you received negative trust, it falls under one of the following:
1. broke a forum rule,
2. attempting to scam,
3. have scammed,
4. begging,
5. being a troll
6. send pm solicitations,
7. spams with or without sig campaign
8. sold account
9. etc etc etc

There are may reasons why to give negative trust, outside of scamming members.
There are no rules, that I'm aware of.

Hello, this list is incorrect. Sorry, try again. That is not what red trust is meant for according to the official forum rules.

Being a troll or begging is clearly not what red trust is meant for so please sir do your research before attempting to give a proper reply.

Lol! You would get negative trust for being a troll.
There are no rules for giving trust.

Please provide link to "official forum rules" as to providing trust.

there actually are rules on the trust page, maybe you can go there and read it and come back

[AgentofCoin]

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Hello, this list is incorrect. Sorry, try again. That is not what red trust is meant for according to the official forum rules.

Being a troll or begging is clearly not what red trust is meant for so please sir do your research before attempting to give a proper reply.

Lol! You would get negative trust for being a troll.
There are no rules for giving trust.

Please provide link to "official forum rules" as to providing trust.

there actually are rules on the trust page, maybe you can go there and read it and come back

Those are not rules, those are descriptions.
The community can use the Trust System anyway they deem to be appropriate.

The Trust System is mostly controlled and maintained by the members on the Default Trust List.
If you view their comments on others accounts, I've sure they aren't following "the rules" you cite.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Ok so how's about neutral feedback for trolling or "low quality posts"?

[Zeke2345]

Abuse of power is only if you let them have power over you. As the days go on their negative comments become less and less meaningful.
The forum is slowly filling up with people that have a issue with this tactic of a few members and without being in the trust system themselves,would have little sway. But sadly some one here felt they needed to be empowered to accuse and run over any one they chose is unsuited to the NewWorldOrder or whatever it is called now.

I like how they follow each other up to make the stance that much more valid. Read through the lines folks,these people are using the system to
alter the forum. Ever here that story about first they came for the Jews! This is pretty much whats going on and all you have to do is look through the forum to see they are spreading the issue to other aspects.

[Dorrittulx]

Ok so how's about neutral feedback for trolling or "low quality posts"?

Tell me this, is + trust given for well-thought out economy posts or helpful free tools posted? No. You can have extremely high quality posts yet not get + trust. So it makes zero sense to give out - trust when not meeting the trust-givers standards.

[Zeke2345]

Ok so how's about neutral feedback for trolling or "low quality posts"?

Thats just falling right in line with the mandate. Why would we use trolling as a way to censor opposing views?
Often it comes off as trolling because the discussion is heated and usually will simmer down. If we add trolling we have just
made them that much more of a monster.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Ok so how's about neutral feedback for trolling or "low quality posts"?

Tell me this, is + trust given for well-thought out economy posts or helpful free tools posted? No. You can have extremely high quality posts yet not get + trust. So it makes zero sense to give out - trust when not meeting the trust-givers standards.

Ok thank you,  that was my position about OP's neutral feedback on me.  I think it's completely unwarranted.

[Heutenamos]

i just want a mod to come in

Who is a Mod to say ? Trust is not moderated anyways.

[Quickseller]

Chances are if you received negative trust, it falls under one of the following:

Lets see how accurate your list is....

1. broke a forum rule,

They usually ban you for this. That or give a warning that could eventually lead to a ban.

2. attempting to scam,

Yup.

3. have scammed,

This is exactly what negative trust ratings are for

4. begging,

Nope. This falls under "breaking a forum rule"

5. being a troll

This really depends on how they are trolling. If they are trolling my making/accepting offers they have zero intent on keeping then they are effectively a scammer, mostly otherwise, no

6. send pm solicitations,

This really depends on the unique circumstances. If the circumstances are somewhat shady then yes, otherwise no

7. spams with or without sig campaign

lol, no

8. sold account

no

9. etc etc etc

but no

There are may reasons why to give negative trust, outside of scamming members

That is not the intent behind the trust system.

[shorena]

Ok so how's about neutral feedback for trolling or "low quality posts"?

Tell me this, is + trust given for well-thought out economy posts or helpful free tools posted? No. You can have extremely high quality posts yet not get + trust. So it makes zero sense to give out - trust when not meeting the trust-givers standards.

Is that so?

Whether or not you like to admit it, but the trust system has no rules. The question is usually whether or not someone will consider your ratings as trusted or not. Ratings like (I will quote my own trust page here)

THIS DUDE HAD SEX WITH MY SISTER AND DIDNT EVEN CALL HER AFTER THE FIRST DATE. DISRESPECTFUL, ARROGANT AND AN OBVIOUS FUTURE SCAMMER. DO NOT TRADE WITH!

are perfectly fine and there are no actions taken against them as long as the person is not considered trusted (e.g. by being part of the default trust network). If the person is considered trusted you can talk to person that considers them trust worthy. E.g. if someone from DT2 put the rating you can talk to the person on DT1 that has them in their list. If they think a rating like:

Made an excellent tutorial on creating and verifying bitcoin signatures.

is fine, there is nothing you can do about it besides trying to escalate the issue further (two from DT 1 can effectivly remove someone else from DT 1).

As such there is no "abuse" as there are not allowed and disallowed uses. The only exception maybe is spam.

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That is not the intent behind the trust system.

What the trust system should be used for is based on those that are considered trusted within the system. Mainly those on level 1 as they select those on level 2 and those are considered trusted by the majority of users (as they dont change their list). Any list anyone here can come up with, will most likely be only a rough estimate or overview based on the past.

[Mitchell]

8. sold account

no

I give people, that buy an account with positive trust, a negative one to offset their (illegitimately) gained trustscore.