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May 09, 2017, 07:47:34 PM
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I think if you guys are building large budget rigging operations you need to really take into account coin stability. I realize the term "Stability" is almost an oxymoron in crypto, but I would not want to build a $15-30k  Nvidia only mining operation and have ZEC drop 30% in value in a week. Eth over the last year has a strong history of development and ecosystem. Zec has not developed or proven itself as far as ETH has. Diversify as Phil does and maybe have 20 AMD rigs on Eth 20 Nvidia rigs on Zec. Spending $699 per card on 1080 Tis is not cost efficient if ZEC value plummets and ETH stay the same. You now have those same cards mining eth when you could have saved $450 per card and just bought 480's anyway. I guess i'm just saying perhaps its better to diversify for long term stability. Thoughts?

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May 09, 2017, 08:03:42 PM
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I think if you guys are building large budget rigging operations you need to really take into account coin stability. I realize the term "Stability" is almost an oxymoron in crypto, but I would not want to build a $15-30k  Nvidia only mining operation and have ZEC drop 30% in value in a week. Eth over the last year has a strong history of development and ecosystem. Zec has not developed or proven itself as far as ETH has. Diversify as Phil does and maybe have 20 AMD rigs on Eth 20 Nvidia rigs on Zec. Spending $699 per card on 1080 Tis is not cost efficient if ZEC value plummets and ETH stay the same. You now have those same cards mining eth when you could have saved $450 per card and just bought 480's anyway. I guess i'm just saying perhaps its better to diversify for long term stability. Thoughts?

Well I agree with the sentiment but not really the need to have to diversify based on brand of cards. You can build out 20 rigs with 1070's and if ZEC flops then there are any number of coins that still can be mined just a profitably as ZEC. There are DMD, LBC, VTC, ZCL, and that is just a few I can think of off the top of my head. They really do different things but I really do now prefer NVIDIA over AMD and just to be fair I have mined with 470/480's and also 1070's. The 1080TI's are definitely not cost effective though. The 1080TI's are so expensive but the 1070's are a great value and you can easily pick up some of them for as low as $350 or below with even better deals through distributors. 
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May 09, 2017, 08:08:25 PM
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That's the reason why I only buy hardware with the profit I had made with mining.

Beside all my Nvidia cards I have 30 x R9390's mining Ether. I try to mine at 3 different algo's

Originally I was mining Dash with "used" R9290's wich I sold after 1,5 year mining for 100 euro each.
So all the hardware I use mining at the moment I will sell within a year as "brand" new.......
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May 09, 2017, 08:09:11 PM
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I think if you guys are building large budget rigging operations you need to really take into account coin stability. I realize the term "Stability" is almost an oxymoron in crypto, but I would not want to build a $15-30k  Nvidia only mining operation and have ZEC drop 30% in value in a week. Eth over the last year has a strong history of development and ecosystem. Zec has not developed or proven itself as far as ETH has. Diversify as Phil does and maybe have 20 AMD rigs on Eth 20 Nvidia rigs on Zec. Spending $699 per card on 1080 Tis is not cost efficient if ZEC value plummets and ETH stay the same. You now have those same cards mining eth when you could have saved $450 per card and just bought 480's anyway. I guess i'm just saying perhaps its better to diversify for long term stability. Thoughts?

Yes you are right! This is a very important reason for me to build my own rig. So i can switch between coins if i need to. With 480 you do ETH, MONERO, ZCASH, etc

But in fact if i do calculations i start always with ETH, because just like you, me believe is the strongest in this coin ;-)

I really did not get the point why the 1080 was so more expensive, while i does not so much better on ETH, but now i think i get the point... Its because the guy who posted it maybe is mining zcash, and for him this card is the best?

But after a few days research i noticed the RX 470 or RX 480 are perfect. Sapphire should be the best, but i see that the difference between brands is not so big so whatever. 4gb is MORE then enoufh for ETH, but if i want to mine litecoin maybe in future (when price go up more and more) then i should keep in mind that i need 8gb for that.

And also the OC version's should be a bit better because its better for OVERCLOCKING?

I just wanted to share my idea after some days of research :-)
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May 09, 2017, 08:29:03 PM
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I think if you guys are building large budget rigging operations you need to really take into account coin stability. I realize the term "Stability" is almost an oxymoron in crypto, but I would not want to build a $15-30k  Nvidia only mining operation and have ZEC drop 30% in value in a week. Eth over the last year has a strong history of development and ecosystem. Zec has not developed or proven itself as far as ETH has. Diversify as Phil does and maybe have 20 AMD rigs on Eth 20 Nvidia rigs on Zec. Spending $699 per card on 1080 Tis is not cost efficient if ZEC value plummets and ETH stay the same. You now have those same cards mining eth when you could have saved $450 per card and just bought 480's anyway. I guess i'm just saying perhaps its better to diversify for long term stability. Thoughts?

Yes you are right! This is a very important reason for me to build my own rig. So i can switch between coins if i need to. With 480 you do ETH, MONERO, ZCASH, etc

But in fact if i do calculations i start always with ETH, because just like you, me believe is the strongest in this coin ;-)

I really did not get the point why the 1080 was so more expensive, while i does not so much better on ETH, but now i think i get the point... Its because the guy who posted it maybe is mining zcash, and for him this card is the best?

But after a few days research i noticed the RX 470 or RX 480 are perfect. Sapphire should be the best, but i see that the difference between brands is not so big so whatever. 4gb is MORE then enoufh for ETH, but if i want to mine litecoin maybe in future (when price go up more and more) then i should keep in mind that i need 8gb for that.

And also the OC version's should be a bit better because its better for OVERCLOCKING?

I just wanted to share my idea after some days of research :-)

I wouldn't even bother mining Litecoin with GPU's since those new L3+ ASICS give you 504 MH/s and that blows any GPU rig out of the water. The RX470/480 or the newer 5xx series cards are certainly the way to go if you are mining Ethereum. It might be worth it to buy the 8 GB cards though since the DAG is getting larger and larger and you will have until 2019 for 8 GB mining. The other main thing might be that Ethereum might switch to POS because of the problems with EThash being too memory reliant. Just my 2 cents. I believe in Zcash and if development goes as planned it will do quite well. The other upside is there a huge mining cycle left for ZEC while ETH POW mining is on the inevitable decline.
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May 09, 2017, 08:47:02 PM
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I think if you guys are building large budget rigging operations you need to really take into account coin stability. I realize the term "Stability" is almost an oxymoron in crypto, but I would not want to build a $15-30k  Nvidia only mining operation and have ZEC drop 30% in value in a week. Eth over the last year has a strong history of development and ecosystem. Zec has not developed or proven itself as far as ETH has. Diversify as Phil does and maybe have 20 AMD rigs on Eth 20 Nvidia rigs on Zec. Spending $699 per card on 1080 Tis is not cost efficient if ZEC value plummets and ETH stay the same. You now have those same cards mining eth when you could have saved $450 per card and just bought 480's anyway. I guess i'm just saying perhaps its better to diversify for long term stability. Thoughts?

Yes you are right! This is a very important reason for me to build my own rig. So i can switch between coins if i need to. With 480 you do ETH, MONERO, ZCASH, etc

But in fact if i do calculations i start always with ETH, because just like you, me believe is the strongest in this coin ;-)

I really did not get the point why the 1080 was so more expensive, while i does not so much better on ETH, but now i think i get the point... Its because the guy who posted it maybe is mining zcash, and for him this card is the best?

But after a few days research i noticed the RX 470 or RX 480 are perfect. Sapphire should be the best, but i see that the difference between brands is not so big so whatever. 4gb is MORE then enoufh for ETH, but if i want to mine litecoin maybe in future (when price go up more and more) then i should keep in mind that i need 8gb for that.

And also the OC version's should be a bit better because its better for OVERCLOCKING?

I just wanted to share my idea after some days of research :-)

I wouldn't even bother mining Litecoin with GPU's since those new L3+ ASICS give you 504 MH/s and that blows any GPU rig out of the water. The RX470/480 or the newer 5xx series cards are certainly the way to go if you are mining Ethereum. It might be worth it to buy the 8 GB cards though since the DAG is getting larger and larger and you will have until 2019 for 8 GB mining. The other main thing might be that Ethereum might switch to POS because of the problems with EThash being too memory reliant. Just my 2 cents. I believe in Zcash and if development goes as planned it will do quite well. The other upside is there a huge mining cycle left for ZEC while ETH POW mining is on the inevitable decline.

Yeah dont try mining any LTC with GPUs thats been overwith for a while now. You're burning too much electricity for little profit. I don't run 4GB cards so i'm not sure what they're hashing.I have several rigs of rx 480 8Gbs, and they are running around 29.5 mh/s on Eth+Decred after strapping and some afterburner adjustments.  I have one zec rig right now which is basically the sad bastard child of my old 280X mining rigs from last year. They are pulling around 300 sol/s each at 210 watts, so not very efficient but still making profit on totally paid off gear. If Eth switches to POS don't worry everyone will go to ETC. Eth and Vitalik have too much money now and they will create some shitty halfway step between POS and POW.

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May 09, 2017, 10:57:57 PM
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Ok thanks for the information ;-) good points of view :-)

I have been looking for the antminer l3. It was my first plan, order one to have it by 15july... i dont know.

I am pretty sure i gonna buy the 480's now
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May 10, 2017, 07:07:06 AM
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Ok thanks for the information ;-) good points of view :-)

I have been looking for the antminer l3. It was my first plan, order one to have it by 15july... i dont know.

I am pretty sure i gonna buy the 480's now

I want to buy RX 480 to... I want to rig bitcoin by these hardware. maybe 6pcs RX 480 is good enough for a single pc! what is recommended CPU setup for 6pcs RX 480 rig? thank you in advance.

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May 10, 2017, 07:31:02 AM
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I have to be honest that I bought all my 1080's for 300 euro's each, that's the reason why I have them, otherwise in my opninion they where too expensive
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May 10, 2017, 10:27:30 AM
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I have to be honest that I bought all my 1080's for 300 euro's each, that's the reason why I have them, otherwise in my opninion they where too expensive

Ok good to know. Then is was a good deal ;-)

Anybody can advise a website in europe where to buy them the chrapest?
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 I still prefer 470s over 480s, and either over the new 5's. The companies are playing too many new branding games with the 5 series for some reason wanting ot make it harder fo rus to tell which are better or worse, especially sapphire this time.

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Ok thanks for the information ;-) good points of view :-)

I have been looking for the antminer l3. It was my first plan, order one to have it by 15july... i dont know.

I am pretty sure i gonna buy the 480's now

I want to buy RX 480 to... I want to rig bitcoin by these hardware. maybe 6pcs RX 480 is good enough for a single pc! what is recommended CPU setup for 6pcs RX 480 rig? thank you in advance.

I and a few friends have just built a 6 pcs RX 480 Sapphire RX 480 8GB Gddr5 PC. The processor we choose is a simple one from 6th gen of Intel, the celeron G3930. We bought a few risers and choose the ASUS Z270 Prime Strix motherboard with 3 PCIEX16 and 3 PCIEX1 which keeps 6 cards as a breeze in Windows 10. A normal ssd and 8gb of cheap ddr4 ram is enough. For the PSU we have choosen a 1200 watt platinum EVGA, it's working good since a few days that we build this mining rig.




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May 13, 2017, 04:03:05 AM
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So I have been running a gtx 1070 and a rx 480 for a few days now.

The 1070 mines about 0.0005-0.0007 btc more per day than the rx 480 while consuming 30-40 watts less power. It also was about 110$ more expensive to purchase.

I have found that the 1070 is best for mining Digibyte (Skein, Myr-Gr), and Feathercoin (Neoscrypt). That is the main problem with the NVIDIA cards. They are best for mining small coins that aren't very stable and used mainly for trading.

However, there are also plans for Eth to move to PoS from PoW, which will break AMD mining. Nobody has any ideas when this might happen though.

I think it is good to diversify, since mining on both AMD and NVIDIA even on the same system is not much of a problem.
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May 13, 2017, 03:59:34 PM
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So I have been running a gtx 1070 and a rx 480 for a few days now.

The 1070 mines about 0.0005-0.0007 btc more per day than the rx 480 while consuming 30-40 watts less power. It also was about 110$ more expensive to purchase.

I have found that the 1070 is best for mining Digibyte (Skein, Myr-Gr), and Feathercoin (Neoscrypt). That is the main problem with the NVIDIA cards. They are best for mining small coins that aren't very stable and used mainly for trading.

However, there are also plans for Eth to move to PoS from PoW, which will break AMD mining. Nobody has any ideas when this might happen though.

I think it is good to diversify, since mining on both AMD and NVIDIA even on the same system is not much of a problem.

You should think about mining on zpool.ca or miningpoolhub.com and you can auto convert to BTC as you mine.
If you use profit switching you will be constantly switching coins but it doesn't matter as all you see is BTC payments Smiley

My 1080ti's are getting over $10/day per card right now mining mostly skein, blake2s, and nist5 based coins Cheesy
It is pretty rare that Neoscrypt becomes profitable enough to mine over the others

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You should think about mining on zpool.ca or miningpoolhub.com and you can auto convert to BTC as you mine.
If you use profit switching you will be constantly switching coins but it doesn't matter as all you see is BTC payments Smiley

My 1080ti's are getting over $10/day per card right now mining mostly skein, blake2s, and nist5 based coins Cheesy
It is pretty rare that Neoscrypt becomes profitable enough to mine over the others

Hey! May I ask your rig setup? I'm planning to build one, but I'm not really sure on what to buy..

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So I have been running a gtx 1070 and a rx 480 for a few days now.

The 1070 mines about 0.0005-0.0007 btc more per day than the rx 480 while consuming 30-40 watts less power. It also was about 110$ more expensive to purchase.

I have found that the 1070 is best for mining Digibyte (Skein, Myr-Gr), and Feathercoin (Neoscrypt). That is the main problem with the NVIDIA cards. They are best for mining small coins that aren't very stable and used mainly for trading.

However, there are also plans for Eth to move to PoS from PoW, which will break AMD mining. Nobody has any ideas when this might happen though.

I think it is good to diversify, since mining on both AMD and NVIDIA even on the same system is not much of a problem.

You should think about mining on zpool.ca or miningpoolhub.com and you can auto convert to BTC as you mine.
If you use profit switching you will be constantly switching coins but it doesn't matter as all you see is BTC payments Smiley

My 1080ti's are getting over $10/day per card right now mining mostly skein, blake2s, and nist5 based coins Cheesy
It is pretty rare that Neoscrypt becomes profitable enough to mine over the others

I have been using miningpoolhub & multipoolminer. I really like the auto-profit switching and auto-exchange features. I have not tried zpool.

You can see the hashrates for different algos here (1070 and rx 480). The rx 480 is steady at around 0.0019 btc/day and the 1070 varies quite a bit. I also just picked up a 1080 and probably will install that tomorrow.



Miningpoolhub fee is 0.9% and Zpool seems to be 2%. But mph has 0.0004 btc transaction fee for any withdrawals, and doesn't have as many coins as zpool.

do you prefer using zpool to miningpoolhub?

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You should think about mining on zpool.ca or miningpoolhub.com and you can auto convert to BTC as you mine.
If you use profit switching you will be constantly switching coins but it doesn't matter as all you see is BTC payments Smiley

My 1080ti's are getting over $10/day per card right now mining mostly skein, blake2s, and nist5 based coins Cheesy
It is pretty rare that Neoscrypt becomes profitable enough to mine over the others

Hey! May I ask your rig setup? I'm planning to build one, but I'm not really sure on what to buy..

Thanks!

It really depends on your budget but many people have asked the same questions you have. Check out this website: http://www.coinminingrigs.com/how-to-build-a-6-gpu-mining-rig/

this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1884572.0 and there are many many other threads on this sub-forum. That should help you get started but you need to do your own research and experimentation.
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May 13, 2017, 11:37:24 PM
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I am totally beginner in mining and which graphic cards to you advice for mining Ethereum and Litecoin, also I think maybe I will also try to mine Monero an Zcash.
What do you think about Radeon R9 390 and rx 580?
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I am totally beginner in mining and which graphic cards to you advice for mining Ethereum and Litecoin, also I think maybe I will also try to mine Monero an Zcash.
What do you think about Radeon R9 390 and rx 580?

Those will be good for dual mining Ethereum/ETC (Ethash) + DCR/Sia. Check out claymore's dual mining program.

Nvidia cards do better on Zcash (Equihash) and I think Monero (Cryptonight) as well.

There will be little profit in mining Litecoin.
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Hi all, I bought 4 rx 470 and  5 1060, began to collect and one of the 470 issues on the air only 4 MH/s what might that be? To give the warranty?

 
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