Five Months in Syria: Russia Has Made History

[Newmba]

That country will sure break up, Assad only conquered the Shia territories, while all the Sunni region is controleld by ISIS. US, Russia etc., just actors that are playing according to scripts written decades ago

http://original.antiwar.com/dan_sanchez/2016/02/15/yinon-plan-b/

This was part of a more general “Yinon Plan” that called for the “dissolution” of “the entire Arab world including Egypt, Syria, Iraq and the Arabian peninsula.” Each country was to be made to “fall apart along sectarian and ethnic lines,” after which each resulting fragment would be “hostile” to its “neighbors.”

According to Yinon, this balkanization should be realized by fomenting discord and war among the Arabs:

“Every kind of inter-Arab confrontation will assist us in the short run and will shorten the way to the more important aim of breaking up Iraq into denominations as in Syria and in Lebanon.”

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[Nemo1024]

Looks like the following article belongs here.

‘Efficient, accurate’: Russian air warfare in Syria praised in classified NATO report
https://www.rt.com/news/334642-russia-efficient-syria-nato/

The Russian task force in Syria has demonstrated remarkable efficiency and professionalism, according to a German magazine citing confidential NATO analysis.

The limited Russian contingent operating in Syria is outperforming the more widespread groupings of the US-led anti-Islamic State coalition, according to Germany’s FOCUS media outlet who came by the classified NATO document, which was prepared by the alliance’s military experts.

The document points out that Russia deployed 40 warplanes, performing some 75 sorties a day (until the ceasefire came into effect on February 27). The airstrikes, usually delivered on several targets during each combat flight, are “accurate and efficient,” the analysis reportedly says.

The US-led counterterrorist coalition, deploying about 180 warplanes against Islamic State (IS, former ISIS/ISIL), strikes only about 20 targets a day. The paper says the number of Russian fighter jets on the ground is “clearly inferior in number” to NATO’s group, but the higher frequency of the Russian air raids makes them more effective.

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[magnific61]

I repeatly tell that Russia is not in Syria for fighting with terrorists. It is there for keeping Syrian dicta regyme survived and having a big portion from pie.
Russia has base in Syria. First Russian plan is to keep Asad on Syria as more as possible. If first plan doesn't work, it wants to be arbiter in new Syrian Governance.
In this situation, RAF hits dissident targets and ISIS is not against to Asad.
Story that Russia hits ISIS is a big, very big lie. Very big disenformation.

[bitsmichel]

Story that Russia hits ISIS is a big, very big lie. Very big disenformation.

Are they not shooting at ISIS soldier? 

[bryant.coleman]

I repeatly tell that Russia is not in Syria for fighting with terrorists. It is there for keeping Syrian dicta regyme survived and having a big portion from pie.
Russia has base in Syria. First Russian plan is to keep Asad on Syria as more as possible. If first plan doesn't work, it wants to be arbiter in new Syrian Governance.
In this situation, RAF hits dissident targets and ISIS is not against to Asad.
Story that Russia hits ISIS is a big, very big lie. Very big disenformation.

Ever since the Russian air-strikes started, the regime forces have captured strategic areas such as Kuweiris Air Base and the Aleppo Thermal Power Plant from the ISIS. The Russian air strikes have ensured that the ISIS is still not able to over-run the regime forces in Deir ez Zorr. On the other hand, your country (Turkey) is supporting the ISIS by shelling the regime forces from across the border.

[arbitrage]

I repeatly tell that Russia is not in Syria for fighting with terrorists. It is there for keeping Syrian dicta regyme survived and having a big portion from pie.
Russia has base in Syria. First Russian plan is to keep Asad on Syria as more as possible. If first plan doesn't work, it wants to be arbiter in new Syrian Governance.
In this situation, RAF hits dissident targets and ISIS is not against to Asad.
Story that Russia hits ISIS is a big, very big lie. Very big disenformation.

I don't understand why should Russia permitting US forces to build yet another base in Syria? We must stop the bullshit, US gave support to ISIS erlier when they had started attack against "Bashar Al Assad regime "
Now Turkey has problem with Russians because they bombarding oil convoys, and supporting Kurds, and they are "treat for safety" of Turkey..
You are just subjective.

[magnific61]

I repeatly tell that Russia is not in Syria for fighting with terrorists. It is there for keeping Syrian dicta regyme survived and having a big portion from pie.
Russia has base in Syria. First Russian plan is to keep Asad on Syria as more as possible. If first plan doesn't work, it wants to be arbiter in new Syrian Governance.
In this situation, RAF hits dissident targets and ISIS is not against to Asad.
Story that Russia hits ISIS is a big, very big lie. Very big disenformation.

I don't understand why should Russia permitting US forces to build yet another base in Syria? We must stop the bullshit, US gave support to ISIS erlier when they had started attack against "Bashar Al Assad regime "
Now Turkey has problem with Russians because they bombarding oil convoys, and supporting Kurds, and they are "treat for safety" of Turkey..
You are just subjective.

ISIS founded by USA for national profit. Because ISIS attacks US aimed targets for cheaper than US Army. ISIS is like Al Queda and founded after Al Queda lost popularity. Today Isis fights for Asad in Syria. Pyd also fights for Asad. And Russian Forces in Syria for protecting Asad's regyme. Therefore Russian air attacks to Isis is a big lie.
Problem between Turkey and Russia:
Turkey has declared new engagement rules after Turkish trainng plane was, dropped, in Mediterranean, Sea.  
Due, to new, engagement rules,  Turkey will drop any military, air vehicles in case, of border breake. RAF repeatly broke turkish border and apologized . Russia continuely tested Turkey's patience and finally TAF dropped Russian warplane on last border break.

[countryfree]

Five Months in Syria: Russia Has Made History
As Assad himself has said, 80 countries have conspired against Syria's sovereignty. Thanks to Iran, Russia, and the perseverance of the Syrian army, their plans have been destroyed. Are we not witnessing history? Is this not a new "international order"?

Putin continues to insist that Russia has no ambitions as a world power. It may be true. But it doesn't change the fact that Russian power has prevented the west from annihilating yet another Middle Eastern nation.

Russia has made history.

http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/russias-help-syrian-army-has-doubled-its-territory-aleppo/ri13099

Russia has not changed history. It's quite the contrary, Russia's doing all it can to bring things back the way they were and stop history. But things must change. If we want peace in the Middle East, we need new border lines for Syria and Irak and the creation of a Kurdish state. There was a civil war in Syria before IS was created, so destroying IS is only one part of a solution, and restoring the Syria of 6 years ago is no solution at all.

[Sithara007]

May be in another 5 months they will be able to eradicate the ISIS completely. But the worrying aspect is that although the ISIS is on the wane in Syria and Iraq, they are expanding in the other regions. They have captured new territories in Yemen, Libya, Afghanistan, and Nigeria. They have established themselves in Indonesia, Bangladesh, Somalia, Pakistan, and many other countries.

[galdur]

Five Months in Syria: Russia Has Made History
As Assad himself has said, 80 countries have conspired against Syria's sovereignty. Thanks to Iran, Russia, and the perseverance of the Syrian army, their plans have been destroyed. Are we not witnessing history? Is this not a new "international order"?

Putin continues to insist that Russia has no ambitions as a world power. It may be true. But it doesn't change the fact that Russian power has prevented the west from annihilating yet another Middle Eastern nation.

Russia has made history.

http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/russias-help-syrian-army-has-doubled-its-territory-aleppo/ri13099

Russia has not changed history. It's quite the contrary, Russia's doing all it can to bring things back the way they were and stop history. But things must change. If we want peace in the Middle East, we need new border lines for Syria and Irak and the creation of a Kurdish state. There was a civil war in Syria before IS was created, so destroying IS is only one part of a solution, and restoring the Syria of 6 years ago is no solution at all.

They´ve made history in that they´ve achieved more in five months than useless U.S./NATO military has in 13 years in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria and Yemen (the last being screwed up by the boil on the ass of the usual bunglers).

[magnific61]

Five Months in Syria: Russia Has Made History
As Assad himself has said, 80 countries have conspired against Syria's sovereignty. Thanks to Iran, Russia, and the perseverance of the Syrian army, their plans have been destroyed. Are we not witnessing history? Is this not a new "international order"?

Putin continues to insist that Russia has no ambitions as a world power. It may be true. But it doesn't change the fact that Russian power has prevented the west from annihilating yet another Middle Eastern nation.

Russia has made history.

http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/russias-help-syrian-army-has-doubled-its-territory-aleppo/ri13099

Russia has not changed history. It's quite the contrary, Russia's doing all it can to bring things back the way they were and stop history. But things must change. If we want peace in the Middle East, we need new border lines for Syria and Irak and the creation of a Kurdish state. There was a civil war in Syria before IS was created, so destroying IS is only one part of a solution, and restoring the Syria of 6 years ago is no solution at all.

Iran and Russia immediately should take their hands from Syria and firstable, ISIS should been demolished. By supporting dissident forces, Asad regyme should been destroyed. After central Asad regyme collapses, should make an election with participation of all groups in Syria.
But it is impossible in present situation. Neighter Iran and Russia give up their profit. Both there are western world's expections on that civil war. Every action is a part of game

[tvbcof]

Russia has not changed history. It's quite the contrary, Russia's doing all it can to bring things back the way they were and stop history. But things must change. If we want peace in the Middle East, we need new border lines for Syria and Irak and the creation of a Kurdish state. ...

Seems to me like there is plenty of room in Turkey for the Kurdish state.  No need to disrupt Iran, Iraq, or Syria.

Loosing Turkey as a NATO member in the process of carving it up would be a great benefit as well.  I would rate Turkey's membership in NATO as one of the biggest threat to humanity at this time.

[galdur]

Five Months in Syria: Russia Has Made History
As Assad himself has said, 80 countries have conspired against Syria's sovereignty. Thanks to Iran, Russia, and the perseverance of the Syrian army, their plans have been destroyed. Are we not witnessing history? Is this not a new "international order"?

Putin continues to insist that Russia has no ambitions as a world power. It may be true. But it doesn't change the fact that Russian power has prevented the west from annihilating yet another Middle Eastern nation.

Russia has made history.

http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/russias-help-syrian-army-has-doubled-its-territory-aleppo/ri13099

Russia has not changed history. It's quite the contrary, Russia's doing all it can to bring things back the way they were and stop history. But things must change. If we want peace in the Middle East, we need new border lines for Syria and Irak and the creation of a Kurdish state. There was a civil war in Syria before IS was created, so destroying IS is only one part of a solution, and restoring the Syria of 6 years ago is no solution at all.

Iran and Russia immediately should take their hands from Syria and firstable, ISIS should been demolished. By supporting dissident forces, Asad regyme should been destroyed. After central Asad regyme collapses, should make an election with participation of all groups in Syria.
But it is impossible in present situation. Neighter Iran and Russia give up their profit. Both there are western world's expections on that civil war. Every action is a part of game

Yeah, those who have been proven totally useless time and time again actually much worse than useless should be allowed to repeat their clusterfucks  once again in Syria. Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya absolutely more of the same. 

[arbitrage]

Asad regyme should been destroyed. After central Asad regyme collapses, should make an election with participation of all groups in Syria.

Ok tell what good are done in Libya after they brutally slaughtered its President!?
Do you know how Libya were good place for living before US intervention?
Now they have civil war and rising radical Muslims (womb for terrorists)..
Same will be if they succeed to remove Bashar.

[countryfree]

Five Months in Syria: Russia Has Made History
As Assad himself has said, 80 countries have conspired against Syria's sovereignty. Thanks to Iran, Russia, and the perseverance of the Syrian army, their plans have been destroyed. Are we not witnessing history? Is this not a new "international order"?

Putin continues to insist that Russia has no ambitions as a world power. It may be true. But it doesn't change the fact that Russian power has prevented the west from annihilating yet another Middle Eastern nation.

Russia has made history.

http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/russias-help-syrian-army-has-doubled-its-territory-aleppo/ri13099

Russia has not changed history. It's quite the contrary, Russia's doing all it can to bring things back the way they were and stop history. But things must change. If we want peace in the Middle East, we need new border lines for Syria and Irak and the creation of a Kurdish state. There was a civil war in Syria before IS was created, so destroying IS is only one part of a solution, and restoring the Syria of 6 years ago is no solution at all.

They´ve made history in that they´ve achieved more in five months than useless U.S./NATO military has in 13 years in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria and Yemen (the last being screwed up by the boil on the ass of the usual bunglers).

Yes, you may say that. They've achieved more, but what they've achieved was what nobody wanted. Russia is restoring the old Syrian state with its fascist president and fantasy-drawn borderlines. Who's happy with that besides the Assad family?

I'm waiting for what's coming next, the redrawing of all borders between Turkey, Syria and Irak, with the long overdue creation of a Kurdish state.

[a7mos]

I do not think that the Russian airstrikes was a good thing for Syrian innocent civilian people. they were just helping their slave Bashar  the dictator in order to be able to kill more people and destroy more cities. and more people fled their home to the Turkish borders because of these airstrikes
So what type of history they have made ?

[magnific61]

I do not think that the Russian airstrikes was a good thing for Syrian innocent civilian people. they were just helping their slave Bashar  the dictator in order to be able to kill more people and destroy more cities. and more people fled their home to the Turkish borders because of these airstrikes
So what type of history they have made ?

I am absolutly sure that Russia makes history in Syria!
Next generation will read Russia as a big supporter of, persecution and murderer of civilians in history books.
What can be else?

[Nemo1024]

Five Months in Syria: Russia Has Made History
As Assad himself has said, 80 countries have conspired against Syria's sovereignty. Thanks to Iran, Russia, and the perseverance of the Syrian army, their plans have been destroyed. Are we not witnessing history? Is this not a new "international order"?

Putin continues to insist that Russia has no ambitions as a world power. It may be true. But it doesn't change the fact that Russian power has prevented the west from annihilating yet another Middle Eastern nation.

Russia has made history.

http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/russias-help-syrian-army-has-doubled-its-territory-aleppo/ri13099

Russia has not changed history. It's quite the contrary, Russia's doing all it can to bring things back the way they were and stop history. But things must change. If we want peace in the Middle East, we need new border lines for Syria and Irak and the creation of a Kurdish state. There was a civil war in Syria before IS was created, so destroying IS is only one part of a solution, and restoring the Syria of 6 years ago is no solution at all.

They´ve made history in that they´ve achieved more in five months than useless U.S./NATO military has in 13 years in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria and Yemen (the last being screwed up by the boil on the ass of the usual bunglers).

Yes, you may say that. They've achieved more, but what they've achieved was what nobody wanted. Russia is restoring the old Syrian state with its fascist president and fantasy-drawn borderlines. Who's happy with that besides the Assad family?

I'm waiting for what's coming next, the redrawing of all borders between Turkey, Syria and Irak, with the long overdue creation of a Kurdish state.

"Fascist" president, with whom the country had the best healthcare and education system in the region, while people of various religions lived peacefully side-by-side. You seem to be getting your perception of Assad from the Western MSM...

Btw, it were the Brits, who drew the current borders, violating some of the treaties.

And yes, Kurdish state is long overdue, and Assad basically agreed to Federalisation of the Kurdish province - a step in the right direction.

[criptix]

So why is more then half of syria on the run?
Because daesh is evil and assad+russia are good?

Please explain

[Nemo1024]

So why is more then half of syria on the run?
Because daesh is evil and assad+russia are good?

Please explain

Yes. Half of the Syria, that is under US-financed and armed Daesh is on the run. But the "refugees" in EU are only about 1/4 Syrians - the rest are from the other countries, like Iraq and Libya, and a large portion of them are injected militants - all systematically organised through Turkey.

criptix, I highly doubt that you are weak of mind and memory so as not to remember the chronology of the event of the last year. Let me remind: Russia started assisting the Syrian army in the autumn of 2015. The massive floodgate of refugees was opened by Turkey in the spring of 2015. Those refugees had been accumulating in Turkey over several years while US-backed jihadists were destroying Syria.

So my only conclusion is that your insinuation is premeditated and relates to the ongoing stage of demonisation of Russia - the Western MSM propaganda campaign that Russia is responsible for the refugees coming to Europe. By the way, this propaganda was started in the Finnish press, when they started accusing Russia of letting 1000 refugees into Finland, while during the same period 90000 cam from Sweden, which is, apparently, perfectly ok.


This promises to be an enlightening read. Even the blurb is informative:

*NEW*: The Dirty War on Syria: Washington, Regime Change and Resistance (PDF)
https://store.globalresearch.ca/store/the-dirty-war-on-syria-washington-regime-change-and-resistance-pdf/

The Dirty War on Syria has relied on a level of mass disinformation not seen in living memory. In seeking ‘regime change’ the big powers sought to hide their hand, using proxy armies of ‘Islamists’, demonising the Syrian Government and constantly accusing it of atrocities. In this way Syrian President Bashar al Assad, a mild-mannered eye doctor, became the new evil in the world.

The popular myths of this dirty war – that it is a ‘civil war’, a ‘popular revolt’ or a sectarian conflict – hide a murderous spree of ‘regime change’ across the region. The attack on Syria was a necessary consequence of Washington’s ambition, stated openly in 2006, to create a ‘New Middle East’. After the destruction of Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya, Syria was next in line.

Five years into this war the evidence is quite clear and must be set out in detail. The terrible massacres were mostly committed by the western backed jihadists, then blamed on the Syrian Army. The western media and many western NGOs parroted the official line. Their sources were almost invariably those allied to the ‘jihadists’. Contrary to the myth that the big powers now have their own ‘war on terror’, those same powers have backed every single anti-government armed group in Syria, ‘terrorists’ in any other context, adding thousands of ‘jihadis’ from dozens of countries.

Yet in Syria this dirty war has confronted a disciplined national army which did not disintegrate along sectarian lines. Despite terrible destruction and loss of life, Syria has survived, deepening its alliance with Russia, Iran, the Lebanese Resistance, the secular Palestinians and, more recently, with Iraq. The tide has turned against Washington, and that will have implications beyond Syria.

As western peoples we have been particularly deceived by this dirty war, reverting to our worst traditions of intervention, racial prejudice and poor reflection on our own histories. This book tries to tell its story while rescuing some of the better western traditions: the use of reason, ethical principle and the search for independent evidence.

Like I said, Syria, being a secular tolerant state, had its strength in this.