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March 12, 2016, 12:57:28 PM
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i cannot find logic and official explaining about this mistake,did someone know how can this happen?
It might have been error or bug in the change system. That is whenever you send BTC to an address, you make a transaction of the full amount with one of the receiving address being your own and receive the 'change' back

I remember Knightdk posting a similar speculation in this thread, which he has deleted possibly as it might be wrong. Can't really post anything more than speculation though
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March 12, 2016, 06:03:49 PM
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News about that bitcoin transaction ?

it's just an embarrassing mistake made by some user. why would it get in the news?
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March 12, 2016, 06:07:51 PM
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News about that bitcoin transaction ?

it's just an embarrassing mistake made by some user. why would it get in the news?
he's hoping that maybe he find the pool that has minded the block and they will refund him.
btw I'm sorry for him

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March 12, 2016, 06:15:17 PM
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News about that bitcoin transaction ?

it's just an embarrassing mistake made by some user. why would it get in the news?
he's hoping that maybe he find the pool that has minded the block and they will refund him.
btw I'm sorry for him


Exactly, like the other time (with the 2 btc fee). 


Discus fish mined it....


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Would you like to talk about this transaction ?

https://blockchain.info/tx/4ed20e0768124bc67dc684d57941be1482ccdaa45dadb64be12afba8c8554537



200 btc fee.
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March 12, 2016, 06:22:39 PM
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--snip--

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Would you like to talk about this transaction ?

https://blockchain.info/tx/4ed20e0768124bc67dc684d57941be1482ccdaa45dadb64be12afba8c8554537



200 btc fee.


Just jumped from the first page to this one and I thought I'll faint on 15 btc fees.
Is it really really really irreversible? Double spending won't even help either?
Meh, I doubt anyone will return it back to him
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March 12, 2016, 06:29:12 PM
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--snip--

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Would you like to talk about this transaction ?

https://blockchain.info/tx/4ed20e0768124bc67dc684d57941be1482ccdaa45dadb64be12afba8c8554537



200 btc fee.


Just jumped from the first page to this one and I thought I'll faint on 15 btc fees.
Is it really really really irreversible? Double spending won't even help either?
Meh, I doubt anyone will return it back to him

yes is not reversible... absolutely irreversible!  Shocked
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March 12, 2016, 06:29:26 PM
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thats bad
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March 12, 2016, 06:37:08 PM
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he's hoping that maybe he find the pool that has minded the block and they will refund him.
btw I'm sorry for him


Exactly, like the other time (with the 2 btc fee).  


Discus fish mined it....

oh. you were asking for updates. misunderstood that.  Tongue
well there's this reddit post but that's it. no refund and no owner requesting it (in public, at least.).


Exactly, like the @--Encrypted--
Would you like to talk about this transaction ?

https://blockchain.info/tx/4ed20e0768124bc67dc684d57941be1482ccdaa45dadb64be12afba8c8554537



200 btc fee.


I wasn't even around at that time. can't find discussion about it with the owner posting in it and requesting a refund, but the address the fee was returned to wasn't a part of that tx so I think they did request it.
interesting thing is that people also suggested that it was a money laundering.
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March 12, 2016, 06:45:29 PM
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This kind of mistake could be prevented in the consensus protocol but the core devs don't want to. They think protection belongs in the client. However clients have bugs and not all users know to look for clients that have this kind of protection, it's not something advertised on feature pages.

The protocol should reject blocks that have transactions with grossly large fees in them, that way if a miner includes such a tx the block is rejected, and the tx never happens protecting the user.

But core devs don't want it, and moderator of dev list doesn't allow open discussion to try and change their minds.

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March 12, 2016, 07:31:56 PM
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Its crazy we do not have some guy ranting about his fee somewhere on the net that would be able to verify.
If I paid 15 or 200 I would be pretty close to needing to call for first aid,heart attack would surly be incoming.

Any other links or news,please update this issue.

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March 12, 2016, 07:38:07 PM
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That made someone's day! Almost as good as finding a block Wink
yeah i think they will be very hapy with that fee Cheesy

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March 12, 2016, 07:43:52 PM
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well it is how it is, it must have been a really painful thing to do and the sender most probably was very mad about it

though the miner who found the block must have been very happy, it is nearly the same amount of bitcoins you get for mining a regular block

 
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March 12, 2016, 07:45:13 PM
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That made someone's day! Almost as good as finding a block Wink
yeah i think they will be very hapy with that fee Cheesy
Whoever mined that block is likely going to be very, very happy with their luck and enjoy a nice, what would that be, ~60% bonus?

That or some mining-pool owner just got himself a nice amount to spend.
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March 12, 2016, 07:47:33 PM
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That made someone's day! Almost as good as finding a block Wink
yeah i think they will be very hapy with that fee Cheesy
Whoever mined that block is likely going to be very, very happy with their luck and enjoy a nice, what would that be, ~60% bonus?

That or some mining-pool owner just got himself a nice amount to spend.


https://blockchain.info/it/block-index/1081448

https://blockchain.info/it/tx/9bdd577fd0d77219c9c874781d4dedc8b9c2fec186673d5bcf993a51ce34474e

https://blockchain.info/it/address/1KFHE7w8BhaENAswwryaoccDb6qcT6DbYY


Mined by 'Discus Fish (F2Pool)'.
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March 12, 2016, 07:50:44 PM
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Its crazy we do not have some guy ranting about his fee somewhere on the net that would be able to verify.
If I paid 15 or 200 I would be pretty close to needing to call for first aid,heart attack would surly be incoming.

Any other links or news,please update this issue.

It's possible it was the miner himself or herself and wasn't an accident.

Is there evidence the TX hit the network before it was in a block?

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March 12, 2016, 07:53:02 PM
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Its crazy we do not have some guy ranting about his fee somewhere on the net that would be able to verify.
If I paid 15 or 200 I would be pretty close to needing to call for first aid,heart attack would surly be incoming.

Any other links or news,please update this issue.

It's possible it was the miner himself or herself and wasn't an accident.



Mmm.. but how the miner know that himself will mine/found (for sure -a t 100%) that block ?
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March 12, 2016, 07:55:00 PM
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Is there evidence the TX hit the network before it was in a block?
What exactly do you mean by that? All transactions are broadcast on the network before they're included in a block.
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March 12, 2016, 08:18:15 PM
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Its crazy we do not have some guy ranting about his fee somewhere on the net that would be able to verify.
If I paid 15 or 200 I would be pretty close to needing to call for first aid,heart attack would surly be incoming.

Any other links or news,please update this issue.

It's possible it was the miner himself or herself and wasn't an accident.



Mmm.. but how the miner know that himself will mine/found (for sure -a t 100%) that block ?
Yeah. They wouldn't really gamble on the chance to mine the block - it only takes one hash to get that reward, and there's no guarantee that any miner would be able to get the reward.

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March 12, 2016, 08:47:38 PM
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Its crazy we do not have some guy ranting about his fee somewhere on the net that would be able to verify.
If I paid 15 or 200 I would be pretty close to needing to call for first aid,heart attack would surly be incoming.

Any other links or news,please update this issue.

It's possible it was the miner himself or herself and wasn't an accident.



Mmm.. but how the miner know that himself will mine/found (for sure -a t 100%) that block ?
Yeah. They wouldn't really gamble on the chance to mine the block - it only takes one hash to get that reward, and there's no guarantee that any miner would be able to get the reward.

The miner could put the TX in every block they attempt to mine without the TX being on the network for other miners.

That's how large TX fees can be used for money laundering.

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March 12, 2016, 09:33:28 PM
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That made someone's day! Almost as good as finding a block Wink
yeah i think they will be very hapy with that fee Cheesy
Whoever mined that block is likely going to be very, very happy with their luck and enjoy a nice, what would that be, ~60% bonus?

That or some mining-pool owner just got himself a nice amount to spend.


https://blockchain.info/it/block-index/1081448

https://blockchain.info/it/tx/9bdd577fd0d77219c9c874781d4dedc8b9c2fec186673d5bcf993a51ce34474e

https://blockchain.info/it/address/1KFHE7w8BhaENAswwryaoccDb6qcT6DbYY


Mined by 'Discus Fish (F2Pool)'.
A Chinese pool too, they seem to have all the luck these days. Must have been nice to see another $6000 pop up along with the normal 25BTC
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