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January 24, 2013, 05:32:39 PM
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Found this article on Bloomberg, and made me think about the recent run up in bitcoin. Could it be that deep pockets are moving into alternate currencies? Has anyone else heard of the Better Than Cash Alliance? I thought that already existed, and it was called Bitcoin! I worry that the sheeple will use whatever their overlords tell them to use...
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January 24, 2013, 05:47:55 PM
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Found this article on Bloomberg, and made me think about the recent run up in bitcoin. Could it be that deep pockets are moving into alternate currencies? Has anyone else heard of the Better Than Cash Alliance? I thought that already existed, and it was called Bitcoin! I worry that the sheeple will use whatever their overlords tell them to use...

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It took me just fifteen minutes of listening to Bill Gates on Charlie Rose to confirm that billionaires don't and won't like BItcoin.

Mr. Gates throws around a lot of "we did this" type of statements, and what he really means is "we used our power and influence to get governments to do this".  I'm not saying the accomplishments were bad, but anything that lessen's a billionaire's influence will not be something the billionaires will support.

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January 24, 2013, 08:29:17 PM
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Billionaires are known for not keeping a lot of spending green in their wallets. But that’s not why Bill Gates hates cash. He hates it because of its effect on people at the opposite end of the wealth spectrum—the world’s poor and unbanked. The Better Than Cash Alliance, which was founded last September and is partially financed by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, hosted a breakfast today at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland. Speakers from the Philippines, Colombia, and the U.S., among other countries, made the case for why electronic transactions are better than cash payments.

Top five reasons, according to the alliance:

Transparency: Less corruption and theft when payments can be easily tracked. In Afghanistan, U.S. aid agencies use it so workers aren’t so vulnerable to robbery.

Security: The money gets where it’s supposed to go.

Financial inclusion: Electronic payment is a way for unbanked people to establish a record of on-time payment of their bills. This can be an “on-ramp” for them to get other services, such as loans, speakers said.

Cost savings: Moving physical cash around is costlier than zipping electrons. Many poor people, however, still find it cheaper to use cash, because some cashless networks charge high fees.

Access to new markets: This benefit is mainly for providers of financial services.

Kenya is a role model for the developing world when it comes to cashless payment. Its M-Pesa network, launched in 2007, has agents “on every block,” says Neal Keny-Guyer, chief executive of Mercy Corps, a nonprofit that’s a member of the alliance. Mauricio Cárdenas, Colombia’s minister of finance and public credit, said in an interview that he hopes within the year the national legislature will pass a law allowing nonbanks to take in cash and issue electronic vouchers.

The key is ensuring that the people who take in the cash are as well-supervised as bank tellers. “We see this as a first step,” Cárdenas said.

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January 24, 2013, 10:11:33 PM
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Cash is useful. Ecash would be even better. (It's a way to make anonymous banked payments -- like cash, but harder to trace and more convenient to use)

Until society has really learned reason and tolerance (ya right, because that's gonna happen) we should always make sure to keep at least one fine-grained and truly anonymous payment system. And while Bitcoin might make a great backing denomination, it is not such a system.

So, for me, the perfect payment system world would have Bitcoin and Ecash. And maybe gold if people need emergency money for Internet blackouts.

Traceable banking instead of cash sounds dangerous. Leak? Oh, now everyone knows you're homosexual/member of a religious minority/went to a porn shop/...
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January 25, 2013, 08:38:43 AM
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How curious.  I've never know about this group until now.  Formed in Dec. 2011.  That would be, almost right after the big Bitcoin crash.  Composed of Citi, Ford Foundation, Gates Foundation, Kenya, UNCDF, VISA, etc.  Sounds like competition.

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January 30, 2013, 01:14:56 AM
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How curious.  I've never know about this group until now.  Formed in Dec. 2011.  That would be, almost right after the big Bitcoin crash.  Composed of Citi, Ford Foundation, Gates Foundation, Kenya, UNCDF, VISA, etc.  Sounds like competition.

So impressive the alliance!But non of the disadvantage they mentioned constrain bitcoin, even the first point, bitcoin flow is totally traceable - by everyone.
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