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March 05, 2016, 07:20:38 PM
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Brian Armstrong's thoughts after the satoshis roundtable meeting.
Good read imo.

https://medium.com/@barmstrong/what-happened-at-the-satoshi-roundtable-6c11a10d8cdf#.r8u9xyq16

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The core team contains some very high IQ people, but there are some things which I find very concerning about them as a team after spending some time with them last weekend.
1. Some of them show very poor communication skills or a lack of maturity — this has hurt bitcoin’s ability to bring new protocol developers into the space.
2. They prefer ‘perfect’ solutions to ‘good enough’. And if no perfect solution exists they seem ok with inaction, even if that puts bitcoin at risk.
3. They seem to have a strong belief that bitcoin will not be able to scale long term, and any block size increase is a slippery slope to a future that they are unwilling to allow.
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March 05, 2016, 07:43:07 PM
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Brian Armstrong's thoughts after the satoshis roundtable meeting.
Good read imo.

https://medium.com/@barmstrong/what-happened-at-the-satoshi-roundtable-6c11a10d8cdf#.r8u9xyq16

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The core team contains some very high IQ people, but there are some things which I find very concerning about them as a team after spending some time with them last weekend.
1. Some of them show very poor communication skills or a lack of maturity — this has hurt bitcoin’s ability to bring new protocol developers into the space.
2. They prefer ‘perfect’ solutions to ‘good enough’. And if no perfect solution exists they seem ok with inaction, even if that puts bitcoin at risk.
3. They seem to have a strong belief that bitcoin will not be able to scale long term, and any block size increase is a slippery slope to a future that they are unwilling to allow.
...

Buddy sounds like a butt hurt establishment mouthpiece; fail to co-opt Bitcoin much?
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March 05, 2016, 08:08:54 PM
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Brian Armstrong's thoughts after the satoshis roundtable meeting.
Good read imo.

https://medium.com/@barmstrong/what-happened-at-the-satoshi-roundtable-6c11a10d8cdf#.r8u9xyq16

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The core team contains some very high IQ people, but there are some things which I find very concerning about them as a team after spending some time with them last weekend.
1. Some of them show very poor communication skills or a lack of maturity — this has hurt bitcoin’s ability to bring new protocol developers into the space.
2. They prefer ‘perfect’ solutions to ‘good enough’. And if no perfect solution exists they seem ok with inaction, even if that puts bitcoin at risk.
3. They seem to have a strong belief that bitcoin will not be able to scale long term, and any block size increase is a slippery slope to a future that they are unwilling to allow.
...

This is fuckin' nuts! While reading the entire prose I was 100% in Brian's court admiring his writing prowess. That is until I got to the second-to-last sentence...

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I continue to encourage everyone to move to https://www.reddit.com/r/btc as an alternative that is censorship free. Thank you.

... Now, I can't get the smell of Marshall Long's balls outta my head.
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March 05, 2016, 09:07:11 PM
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Brian Armstrong's thoughts after the satoshis roundtable meeting.
Good read imo.

https://medium.com/@barmstrong/what-happened-at-the-satoshi-roundtable-6c11a10d8cdf#.r8u9xyq16

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The core team contains some very high IQ people, but there are some things which I find very concerning about them as a team after spending some time with them last weekend.
1. Some of them show very poor communication skills or a lack of maturity — this has hurt bitcoin’s ability to bring new protocol developers into the space.
2. They prefer ‘perfect’ solutions to ‘good enough’. And if no perfect solution exists they seem ok with inaction, even if that puts bitcoin at risk.
3. They seem to have a strong belief that bitcoin will not be able to scale long term, and any block size increase is a slippery slope to a future that they are unwilling to allow.
...

This is fuckin' nuts! While reading the entire prose I was 100% in Brian's court admiring his writing prowess. That is until I got to the second-to-last sentence...

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I continue to encourage everyone to move to https://www.reddit.com/r/btc as an alternative that is censorship free. Thank you.

... Now, I can't get the smell of Marshall Long's balls outta my head.


Why don't you send Mr. Long some nice present.
I have recently found this great website --> http://en.shitexpress.com/
"A simple way to send a piece of shit in a box around the world."

I think Marshall deserves one or two bigger boxes full of shit! I mean shit belongs to shit right?!
And they except Bitcoin! Awesome!!! Grin

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March 05, 2016, 09:08:28 PM
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Doesn't change the fact there is some serious censorship going on in r/bitcoin. I personally had several of my posts deleted that were critical of blockstream. Pretty shady if you ask me.
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March 05, 2016, 09:13:10 PM
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Also, agreed with Armstrong 100%. Classic is the best implementation to support right now, but not necessarily long term. This is why we need multiple competing implementations of bitcoin for our collective health & future. Centralizing the power into Blockstream's hands so far seems to have been a very bad idea. Can't get over their shadiness. Adam Back claiming to have invented bitcoin, Austin Hill scammed 100k out of people when he was 16. Can't trust these people. Makes you wonder who was behind the DDoS of classic/XT nodes.
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March 05, 2016, 10:04:25 PM
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Doesn't change the fact there is some serious censorship going on in r/bitcoin. I personally had several of my posts deleted that were critical of blockstream. Pretty shady if you ask me.

Censorship in action: What happens when Coinbase CEO Brian Armstrong makes two identical posts in /r/btc, and /r/bitcoin.

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March 05, 2016, 10:55:52 PM
Last edit: March 05, 2016, 11:07:22 PM by Gleb Gamow
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Also, agreed with Armstrong 100%. Classic is the best implementation to support right now, but not necessarily long term. This is why we need multiple competing implementations of bitcoin for our collective health & future. Centralizing the power into Blockstream's hands so far seems to have been a very bad idea. Can't get over their shadiness. Adam Back claiming to have invented bitcoin, Austin Hill scammed 100k out of people when he was 16. Can't trust these people. Makes you wonder who was behind the DDoS of classic/XT nodes.

Looks like Austin Hill and Adam Back's relationship goes back to 1997: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_Knowledge_Systems

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Zero-Knowledge Systems (also known as ZKS) was a Canadian privacy technology software and services company, best known for the Freedom Network, its privacy network. It was founded by brothers Austin Hill & Hamnett Hill and their father Hamnett Hill Sr. (aka Hammie Hill) in 1997. Its headquarters were in Montreal, Quebec. Early investors and board members were Mike Santer and Alex Hern co-founder Inktomi. The company still exists under the new name Radial Point though is no longer a developer of privacy-enhancing technologies.

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Several of the company's employees were from an academic privacy-enhanced technology background: Dr Stefan Brands (senior cryptographer) and cypherpunk background Dr Ian Goldberg (chief scientist) and Dr Adam Back (architect & cryptographer).

Hammie Hill owned https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forzani_Group.

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In 2011, Canadian Tire bought Forzani for $771 million, and has since embarked on a large scale brand restructuring.

Let's jump to Canadian Tire on Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Tire

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The retailer is known for its Canadian Tire money, a loyalty program first introduced in 1958, where customers are provided with coupons resembling paper money worth 0.5% of their purchase that can be used in subsequent purchases as scrip at Canadian Tire stores and gas stations.

My bad! Nothing to see here.  Shocked Shocked Shocked

But hey, for shits and giggles search "Canadian Tire" (with quotes) on this forum, then come back here in an hour or so and report your findings.
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March 05, 2016, 11:05:25 PM
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Not much of a team.
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March 06, 2016, 12:49:34 AM
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Good read?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Perhaps if you have a small mind.


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March 06, 2016, 01:03:35 AM
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its become apparent that LukeJr is trying to propose lame assed bips such as hard forking to change the algorithm, and hard forking to change the difficulty. all under the assumption that we will stop asking for 2mb and start debating that such forks as he proposes do nothing and are actually bad.

i think luke JR has been to the blockstream reverse psychology for shills seminar

he needs to get back to making code that the community want. not his best friends and sponsors

the real funny thing is luke jr proposes hardforks with 2 months grace (april code and july active) for his lame bips.. .. yet says a 2mb hard fork needs 16 months

blockstream hypocracy is higher then their ego's of power

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March 06, 2016, 02:07:56 AM
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http://www.declineoftheempire.com/2012/10/horseshit-stories.html

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The problem just kept piling up until, in the eighteen-nineties, it seemed virtually insurmountable. One commentator predicted that by 1930 horse manure would reach the level of Manhattan’s third-story windows. New York’s troubles were not New York’s alone; in 1894, the Times of London forecast that by the middle of the following century every street in the city would be buried under nine feet of manure. It was understood that flies were a transmission vector for disease, and a public-health crisis seemed imminent. When the world’s first international urban-planning conference was held, in 1898, it was dominated by discussion of the manure situation. Unable to agree upon any solutions—or to imagine cities without horses—the delegates broke up the meeting, which had been scheduled to last a week and a half, after just three days.

Then, almost overnight, the crisis passed. This was not brought about by regulation or by government policy. Instead, it was technological innovation that made the difference. With electrification and the development of the internal-combustion engine, there were new ways to move people and goods around. By 1912, autos in New York outnumbered horses, and in 1917 the city’s last horse-drawn streetcar made its final run. All the anxieties about a metropolis inundated by ordure had been misplaced.

The planned one-week meeting ended after just three days sans a consensus, with one attendee rumored to have said, "Fuck this shit!"
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