HEEEELP ME, 2000$ R E W A R D FOR the right solution timestamp .bak wallet away

[totohasproblem]

1. I renamed the Wallet.dat file into something like wallet123.dat.
2. i startet Bitcoin COre again
3. a new wallet was created
4. i created another receiving adres and copy it and send it somebody who send me bitcoins.
5. i renamed the current wallet, where i was waiting for money
6. i renamed the old wallet back to wallet.dat to transfer my rest money to the new wallet
7. i wanted to go the new wallet again, renamed it back to wallet
8. the system did error message and renamed the file in wallet.141231243.bak
9. i did not knew what this was and i try to rename it back into wallet.dat
10, then i startet it again, the  bitcoin core but looks like a new wallet, but it has 94KB
 

So, i can not find the .bak file and also not the wallet file i think i still have this wallet file but the data inside is broken and the money that was send was not there, what ever i do, i startet it on other mac too

[totohasproblem]

I tried to do it again.

i renamed  another file with another computer, after 2 times it came same error
system renamed the current wallet.dat to wallet.12345678.bak
I again, renamed it back to wallet.dat what was 94KB

then start bitcoin core again
and the programm created a new wallet and send the old 94kb wallet, what was renamed back to wallet.dat to SOMEWHERE.
Where can it be?

2016-03-06 09:43:49 Renamed wallet.dat to wallet.1457257429.bak
2016-03-06 09:43:49 Salvage(aggressive) found no records in wallet.1457257429.bak.

TO MAKE IT CLEAR i just checked all again

i was logged in the wallet and i renamed it to walletxxx.dat
THEN i closed bitcoin core
then before i startet that wallet again, i renamed it back to wallet.dat
then came the error message
then system startet and throw this wallet file to somewhere to create a new one???
If so, where is the old one
If not, why i don´t find receiving adress in the that one and the transactions

BTW we are talking about 230 Bitcoins that i might loosing.

[shorena]

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i was logged in the wallet and i renamed it to walletxxx.dat
THEN i closed bitcoin core
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You renamed a file that was used by a programm? No wonder its corrupted.

[totohasproblem]

Yes, understand that, but how can i get this wallet recovered, where is the old one gone?

I mean, as the system renamed the one into wallet.timestamp.bak
then i renamed it back to wallet.dat and startet the client
then my fresh renamed one seems to disappeard to somewhere to free this spot for a new system created one.
right?

[chichidori]

Did you make a copy of your wallet.timestmap.bak before renaming it back to wallet.dat and did you know the address you used to receive the coins if your answer is no then the coins are gone. learn to use the the pywallet.

[CIYAM]

Surely you had taken (several) backups of your wallet (especially if it contained over 200 BTC)?

Renaming files (that are not just normal docs you have created) is really not something that you should be doing unless you really know what you're doing.

[totohasproblem]

Did you make a copy of your wallet.timestmap.bak before renaming it back to wallet.dat and did you know the address you used to receive the coins if your answer is no then the coins are gone. learn to use the the pywallet.

No, i did not safed the bak file before, i did not expect that the system will remove the renamed wallet.dat
and yes, i know the adress, i have a backup of the old wallet.

It was, the system saw my renamed file from bak to dat and then then instead of using it, or giving another error, it created a new wallet.dat file
but before it created it, it deleted or moved it, i can not see any reason why this program will remove it to nowhere, i guess and hope its safed somewhere.

[SISAR]

and the programm created a new wallet and send the old 94kb wallet, what was renamed back to wallet.dat to SOMEWHERE.
Where can it be?

2016-03-06 09:43:49 Renamed wallet.dat to wallet.1457257429.bak
2016-03-06 09:43:49 Salvage(aggressive) found no records in wallet.1457257429.bak.

Clearly, wallet did not send old wallet.dat anywhere but renamed it to wallet.1457257429.bak

[CIYAM]

No, i did not safed the bak file before, i did not expect that the system will remove the renamed wallet.dat
and yes, i know the adress, i have a backup of the old wallet.

If you have a backup of the old wallet then you should be able to recover your BTC.

Perhaps to avoid confusion use a new Bitcoin installation (on a different computer so you don't risk making anything worse) and then copy your backup wallet.dat into the app data directory before you start Bitcoin.

It will of course need to catch up the blockchain before it will show any balance so don't be alarmed when it shows a zero balance when you first start it (and of course it might take a day or two to catch up to the point where your BTC will suddenly reappear).

[totohasproblem]

quote author=SISAR link=topic=1389123.msg14113632#msg14113632 date=1457263706]

and the programm created a new wallet and send the old 94kb wallet, what was renamed back to wallet.dat to SOMEWHERE.
Where can it be?

2016-03-06 09:43:49 Renamed wallet.dat to wallet.1457257429.bak
2016-03-06 09:43:49 Salvage(aggressive) found no records in wallet.1457257429.bak.

Clearly, wallet did not send old wallet.dat anywhere but renamed it to wallet.1457257429.bak
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YEs, but then i renamed it to wallet.dat
then starting again and system removed it to "nowhere" or to a safe place i don´t know
and created a new wallet, where my money not is.

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everybody can easy do the same to test ist.
I will increase my reward to 5000$ if somebody finds solution for it

just bring all your wallets to safe place
then let sytem create a new one.
then rename it
then close program
then rename it back to wallet.dat
then start system
it will rename it to wallet.timestamp.bak and put out error message
then you rename it from that again to wallet.dat
then you start the system (bitcoin core)
then the bitcoin core will delete it or this is the question send it to somewhere
and then it takes a while until the sytem is up and then it creates a new one.
where is the one gone?

[SISAR]

So you do not have backup of a new wallet nor backup of wallet.1457257429.bak?

[helloeverybody]

So you do not have backup of a new wallet nor backup of wallet.1457257429.bak?

Im also confused here, If you have another backup of your wallet just use that? You could try opening the corrupt one in a hex editor to try and repair depending on how messed up it is.

[totohasproblem]

So you do not have backup of a new wallet nor backup of wallet.1457257429.bak?

NO,

i renamed the bak file to wallet file
so it is normally not lost
but the system replaced it with a new wallet file
the normal procedere is that the system will only replace if in the folder is no wallet.dat available
in my case the system see a wallet.dat, but knowing that this was a wallet.2314234.bak before and then removes it
(not really replace, because it goes away a second after start the app, and the new one is coing after all the checks.)

so, where the system send the file, is htere any backup or so,
i think here we need experts in the software itself right, is there any support for bitcoin core that is highly advanced, i even will pay them 500$ per hour for that. i need it to be solved.

[CIYAM]

Surely whatever possible bug there might (or might not) be (as renaming wallet files is a very bad idea in general) what matters is that you recover your coins isn't it?

(so restore your backup wallet into a fresh installation on a separate computer and get your coins back first before worrying about other things or paying big bucks for help which you may not even need)

[helloeverybody]

So you do not have backup of a new wallet nor backup of wallet.1457257429.bak?

NO,

i renamed the bak file to wallet file
so it is normally not lost
but the system replaced it with a new wallet file
the normal procedere is that the system will only replace if in the folder is no wallet.dat available
in my case the system see a wallet.dat, but knowing that this was a wallet.2314234.bak before and then removes it
(not really replace, because it goes away a second after start the app, and the new one is coing after all the checks.)

so, where the system send the file, is htere any backup or so,
i think here we need experts in the software itself right, is there any support for bitcoin core that is highly advanced, i even will pay them 500$ per hour for that. i need it to be solved.

No i had a similar problem with core replacing my backup wallet, I did manage to fix it i think by just dragging the old wallet into the folder to replace the newly created one and then let blockchain update.

[achow101]

Unless you made a backup, there is probably a low chance of recovering the coins.

However the data might still be in the wallet.dat file since bitcoin core won't just delete it even if the data is corrupted. What you should try doing is starting button core with the salvagewallet option and see if that can salvage anything from the corrupted file.

[CIYAM]

Unless you made a backup, there is probably a low chance of recovering the coins.

He stated that he did have a backup (which even if old will probably have all the necessary keys assuming he doesn't do many txs).

[SISAR]

So you do not have backup of a new wallet nor backup of wallet.1457257429.bak?

NO,

i renamed the bak file to wallet file
so it is normally not lost
but the system replaced it with a new wallet file
the normal procedere is that the system will only replace if in the folder is no wallet.dat available
in my case the system see a wallet.dat, but knowing that this was a wallet.2314234.bak before and then removes it
(not really replace, because it goes away a second after start the app, and the new one is coing after all the checks.)

so, where the system send the file, is htere any backup or so,
i think here we need experts in the software itself right, is there any support for bitcoin core that is highly advanced, i even will pay them 500$ per hour for that. i need it to be solved.

First of all, do not mess with partition and HDD where you have Bitcoin wallet.dat files! Second, download Recuva https://www.piriform.com/recuva or some other file recovery software to different computer, install it there then shutdown your computer with Bitcoin wallet.dat files. Remove HDD from it, attach it to computer with file recovery software and do a full deep scan of HDD. All found deleted files must be copied to different HDD, not the one that have Bitcoin wallet.dat files! Unless you are perfectly aware of what you are doing better just take HDD to file recovery specialist or service.

Bitcoin Core simply deleted your new wallet.dat (wallet.2314234.bak) file but possibly there is a chance it is not unrecoverably overwritten.

[BARR_Official]

In the future instead of renaming wallet.dat, move it to another folder.  (only after you've backed it up)

You should copy both files now to a USB stick, then use your good wallet.dat and rescan.

Then you can try salvagewallet on the bad wallet.

If that does not work, try a Windows System Restore.  Hopefully there is a restore point after you created the wallet but before it was corrupted.

[totohasproblem]

So you do not have backup of a new wallet nor backup of wallet.1457257429.bak?

NO,

i renamed the bak file to wallet file
so it is normally not lost
but the system replaced it with a new wallet file
the normal procedere is that the system will only replace if in the folder is no wallet.dat available
in my case the system see a wallet.dat, but knowing that this was a wallet.2314234.bak before and then removes it
(not really replace, because it goes away a second after start the app, and the new one is coing after all the checks.)

so, where the system send the file, is htere any backup or so,
i think here we need experts in the software itself right, is there any support for bitcoin core that is highly advanced, i even will pay them 500$ per hour for that. i need it to be solved.

First of all, do not mess with partition and HDD where you have Bitcoin wallet.dat files! Second, download Recuva https://www.piriform.com/recuva or some other file recovery software to different computer, install it there then shutdown your computer with Bitcoin wallet.dat files. Remove HDD from it, attach it to computer with file recovery software and do a full deep scan of HDD. All found deleted files must be copied to different HDD, not the one that have Bitcoin wallet.dat files! Unless you are perfectly aware of what you are doing better just take HDD to file recovery specialist or service.

Bitcoin Core simply deleted your new wallet.dat (wallet.2314234.bak) file but possibly there is a chance it is not unrecoverably overwritten.

Hi, thank you

but the file is not really deleted, the bitcoin core system send it somewhere, i dont think they delete it.
if you follow the steps you can see it in your wallet happen, its a Bug maybe

the bitcoin core app creates a new wallet.dat file and there is not my money, the bitcoin core program send 1. the wallet.dat (what was renamed to wallet.dat from the wallet-4343.dat) to nirvana, and i don´t know where it is