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January 26, 2013, 07:04:55 AM
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So I just witnessed a withdrawal from one site be declined for insufficient funds multiple times, I believe the amount it stated I had was rounded up and I was trying to send that rounded up amount. Anyway, when I went to check the site I sent it to (a BTC casino, I will not disclose the name for now), ALL of the "insufficient funds" transactions also went through! Unfortunately I was not dealing with a very large amount, but it still resulted in free coins.

Has anyone ever heard of this or encountered something similar? I'm thinking it must have been a bug on the casino site's end, but I don't see how the funds were ever confirmed sent in the first place?
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January 26, 2013, 08:13:41 AM
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1. weird

2. Save them bitcoins... don't gamble them away!

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January 26, 2013, 12:21:07 PM
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So let me guess, you are now going to give us the name of the Casino...we'll all create accounts, and the free bitcoin bug is mysteriously gone?



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January 26, 2013, 01:07:35 PM
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I hope he isn't an idiot Smiley
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January 26, 2013, 03:03:59 PM
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If they screwed up and credited you for each attempt to send coins instead of waiting for them to be confirmed by the network it might be possible. Improper coding of a site can do weird things. I am sure that they will eventually figure out their error. My concern is what happens to you when that happens. I would suggest withdrawing the coins, so that they can not be taken away when the site figures out that they were credited in error.
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January 26, 2013, 04:41:50 PM
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I withdrew the coins right away and the transaction did in fact go through, I made 5x my initial small amount out of nothing. I'm going to see if the site is still doing the same thing. If it is I'll make my fortune then let you guys know the name :p

edit: no luck today. Really must have been a fluke, too bad I wasn't dealing with 100s of bitcoins at the time :/
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January 26, 2013, 04:44:23 PM
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I withdrew the coins right away and the transaction did in fact go through, I made 5x my initial small amount out of nothing. I'm going to see if the site is still doing the same thing. If it is I'll make my fortune then let you guys know the name :p
That's ok, just keep it to yourself.
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January 26, 2013, 04:47:36 PM
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I withdrew the coins right away and the transaction did in fact go through, I made 5x my initial small amount out of nothing. I'm going to see if the site is still doing the same thing. If it is I'll make my fortune then let you guys know the name :p

What a stand up guy. Remind me to never do business with you.

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January 26, 2013, 04:49:47 PM
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I withdrew the coins right away and the transaction did in fact go through, I made 5x my initial small amount out of nothing. I'm going to see if the site is still doing the same thing. If it is I'll make my fortune then let you guys know the name :p

 "Fuck you, got mine" or what.

Good to know that. I will never make any dealings with you cause no you showed that in the case you get the opportunity you will rip one shameless.

In case that is a bug the correct behaviour would be to contact the site instead of trying to steal as much money as possible. A good admin would then give you a reward for finding a such a heavy bug.

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January 26, 2013, 04:53:33 PM
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I withdrew the coins right away and the transaction did in fact go through, I made 5x my initial small amount out of nothing. I'm going to see if the site is still doing the same thing. If it is I'll make my fortune then let you guys know the name :p

You could get rewarded more than that if you report it to site owners, depending on their policies regarding service bugs.

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January 26, 2013, 04:58:54 PM
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@OP: I've made it a practice of rewarding people for finding mistakes of mine and I am sure many others are similar in this practice. Keeping a few bitcoins due to an error is a cheap lifestyle that will not carry you very far. What do I know though, I have a scammer tag for making a similar lapse of judgement.

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January 26, 2013, 05:36:18 PM
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What a stand up guy. Remind me to never do business with you.

I withdrew the coins right away and the transaction did in fact go through, I made 5x my initial small amount out of nothing. I'm going to see if the site is still doing the same thing. If it is I'll make my fortune then let you guys know the name :p

 "Fuck you, got mine" or what.
Good to know that. I will never make any dealings with you


yeah unfortunately lechango you will have to burn your forum account with 2 posts in it and start all the way back at square one.

i know it will be a tough road ahead, rebuilding trust all over again and getting your post count all the way back up to 2.


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January 26, 2013, 06:20:54 PM
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What a stand up guy. Remind me to never do business with you.

I withdrew the coins right away and the transaction did in fact go through, I made 5x my initial small amount out of nothing. I'm going to see if the site is still doing the same thing. If it is I'll make my fortune then let you guys know the name :p

 "Fuck you, got mine" or what.
Good to know that. I will never make any dealings with you


yeah unfortunately lechango you will have to burn your forum account with 2 posts in it and start all the way back at square one.

i know it will be a tough road ahead, rebuilding trust all over again and getting your post count all the way back up to 2.



Exactly. Oh shit this makes post number 3, no turning back now.

But seriously guys I don't think the site gives a shit about the 3 bitcoins I "stole" from them. I don't even know if it was the receiving end's error, it could have been the site I was sending from (yet I would hope that site would not act in such a way, being widely used). I'm pretty sure if any of you found this you wouldn't have posted it on this forum period. I was just curious to know if anyone had encountered such a transaction error before.

I guess I could still report error, or even better, I could gamble back away the 3 btc I "stole" from the casino.
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January 27, 2013, 12:40:37 AM
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I'm not in a place to give moral advice, but I thought this might make it clearer for tou:

You're in a garage having your car fixed. You pay the mechanic's assistant $100 for your $70 expenses, but the assistant gives you back three hundred dollar bills mistaking them as tens. You don't tell the mechanic or the mechanic's assistant. You go to your local library and post on the bulliten board what you did instead of telling the mechanic or assistant.

Digital currencies screw with people's morals, it's plain and simple. The ease of sending, recieving, losing and spending these fun bucks pave the way for all sorts of mental acrobatics regarding what is acceptable behavior or not. I once let this affect my judgement and was subsequently outcast from the community for basically not taking things seriously. A word of advice: take ot seriously. You'll be rewarded much more for it.

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January 27, 2013, 12:45:59 AM
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I recently had the possibility to exploit a bitcoin accepting merchants site to gain my orders worth (~400$) and  for me there was no tought process involved.. when I discovered this I immediateley started typing a message to them explaining what had happened and all the information regarding the events leading to this, asking where and how to pay. I consider my reputation here and within the bitcoin community to be worth so much more than that and losing a merchants due to issues like this very very bad for our beloved bitcoin.

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January 27, 2013, 12:53:21 AM
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I do not think it is the currency that does it. It is the distance and the view that the other guy can take the loss. For instance people would likely return the money to a small shop, but if the cashier at some major chain gave them extra change they might be less inclined to mention it. They might still avoid making it public knowledge, but they are less likely to correct the mistake. The feeling is that the corporations can take the loss without even feeling it where little old you gets significantly more satisfaction out of the same money. I think part of it is also that they are faceless. People feel less bad about the suffering of strangers than they do people they know. It sucks to know that people are being evicted from their homes. It really sucks to see your friend kicked out of his home. I am not saying that it is right. I am just saying that that may contribute to the issue. The nature of digital currency may contribute to making the other person more of a stranger, it is not the currency itself that creates the problem.
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January 27, 2013, 01:08:54 AM
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But seriously guys I don't think the site gives a shit about the 3 bitcoins I "stole" from them. I don't even know if it was the receiving end's error, it could have been the site I was sending from (yet I would hope that site would not act in such a way, being widely used). I'm pretty sure if any of you found this you wouldn't have posted it on this forum period. I was just curious to know if anyone had encountered such a transaction error before.

Yes I have. I double clicked on a withdraw function, and was paid twice. I tested it with a smaller amount, and clicked on the button as many times as I could. I was sent 15 or 16 of the same amount, and for both instances my account was only debited the original transaction. I informed the site owner, and asked where I could send the coins back to and how to reproduce the result. He took the coins back and I wasn't awarded for it, and I'd do it again. But that's just me. My dad taught me that honesty isn't doing the right then when someone's watching, but doing the right thing when no one's there to watch you. Crypto currency makes it really easy for the eyes not to be on you.

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I guess I could still report error, or even better, I could gamble back away the 3 btc I "stole" from the casino.

Say this site is a roulette wheel and you bet the 3 coins on 00 and win. You going to keep betting until you lose the 3 and anything from it? The right thing to do is contact the site and let them know about the issue and return the coins. That's the right thing. But may not be part of your moral fabric.

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January 27, 2013, 03:44:14 AM
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But seriously guys I don't think the site gives a shit about the 3 bitcoins I "stole" from them. I don't even know if it was the receiving end's error, it could have been the site I was sending from (yet I would hope that site would not act in such a way, being widely used). I'm pretty sure if any of you found this you wouldn't have posted it on this forum period. I was just curious to know if anyone had encountered such a transaction error before.

Yes I have. I double clicked on a withdraw function, and was paid twice. I tested it with a smaller amount, and clicked on the button as many times as I could. I was sent 15 or 16 of the same amount, and for both instances my account was only debited the original transaction. I informed the site owner, and asked where I could send the coins back to and how to reproduce the result. He took the coins back and I wasn't awarded for it, and I'd do it again. But that's just me. My dad taught me that honesty isn't doing the right then when someone's watching, but doing the right thing when no one's there to watch you. Crypto currency makes it really easy for the eyes not to be on you.

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I guess I could still report error, or even better, I could gamble back away the 3 btc I "stole" from the casino.

Say this site is a roulette wheel and you bet the 3 coins on 00 and win. You going to keep betting until you lose the 3 and anything from it? The right thing to do is contact the site and let them know about the issue and return the coins. That's the right thing. But may not be part of your moral fabric.

You guys are right. I did contact the site admin.I do hope the website gets the problem resolved, or if it wasn't the fault of the casino site then I really cannot say how it happened, either way I'm sure they won't mind me keeping the 3 btc.
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But seriously guys I don't think the site gives a shit about the 3 bitcoins I "stole" from them. I don't even know if it was the receiving end's error, it could have been the site I was sending from (yet I would hope that site would not act in such a way, being widely used). I'm pretty sure if any of you found this you wouldn't have posted it on this forum period. I was just curious to know if anyone had encountered such a transaction error before.

Yes I have. I double clicked on a withdraw function, and was paid twice. I tested it with a smaller amount, and clicked on the button as many times as I could. I was sent 15 or 16 of the same amount, and for both instances my account was only debited the original transaction. I informed the site owner, and asked where I could send the coins back to and how to reproduce the result. He took the coins back and I wasn't awarded for it, and I'd do it again. But that's just me. My dad taught me that honesty isn't doing the right then when someone's watching, but doing the right thing when no one's there to watch you. Crypto currency makes it really easy for the eyes not to be on you.

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I guess I could still report error, or even better, I could gamble back away the 3 btc I "stole" from the casino.

Say this site is a roulette wheel and you bet the 3 coins on 00 and win. You going to keep betting until you lose the 3 and anything from it? The right thing to do is contact the site and let them know about the issue and return the coins. That's the right thing. But may not be part of your moral fabric.

You guys are right. I did contact the site admin.I do hope the website gets the problem resolved, or if it wasn't the fault of the casino site then I really cannot say how it happened, either way I'm sure they won't mind me keeping the 3 btc.

Kudos on starting to do the right thing. Think of this: If you ask them if they would like you to send it back and how to do so and they provide you with info, then they needed it more than you. Otherwise, they might just tell you to keep it with their thanks. Either way, you build a bridge instead of burning one. Take it from someone who has made it a habit of swimming; life is easier with bridges.

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January 30, 2013, 12:16:02 AM
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There is no such thing as free bitcoins. Someone lost them for you to gain them.

I have written bitcoin dispensing software before and I was always terrified I would open up some bug that would let people loot my accounts.
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