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Author Topic: Have a look. This is not mixing. This is spaming  (Read 1619 times)
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March 06, 2016, 09:21:55 PM
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Have a look to this address
https://blockchain.info/address/18JrJCiwQTyAY6Jq98ABLMoTNr6LrK65BB
and follow to any other address.

Do you see what I see?

These transactions are not bitcoin mixing. The creator of these transactions just moves funds between several his addresses.
Each address has about ~28k transactions and counting
To be correct the number 28k is the total number of transactions in this "stress-test".

I do not know any reason to fill the blockchain with these kind of flood.


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March 06, 2016, 09:42:29 PM
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And each transaction is exactly 5 minutes apart
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March 06, 2016, 09:47:12 PM
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Where did you find this address? I'd hardly call 20-30kB every ~5 minutes spam. They seem to be paying an adequate fee.

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March 06, 2016, 09:52:25 PM
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Where did you find this address?
In blockchain
I'd hardly call 20-30kB every ~5 minutes spam. They seem to be paying an adequate fee.
1) What is the reason to create a chain of such mixing-like transactions for months?
2) I am not sure that this is the only chain
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March 06, 2016, 09:53:10 PM
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So why would anyone do this or even spend the time to do this? I don't get it. Do they plan on mixing in the future or what?
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March 06, 2016, 09:53:25 PM
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These are valid transactions that pay a high enough fee to be likely to confirm and do not create any un-spendable outputs.

I don't see anything wrong with that.  As far as I'm concerned, that's what bitcoin is for.
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March 06, 2016, 09:55:44 PM
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I don't see anything wrong with that.
28k transfers from left pocket to right pocket and back? Every 5 minutes?  Grin
Is this really bitcoin invented for?  Grin
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March 06, 2016, 09:57:11 PM
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I don't see anything wrong with that.
28k transfers from left pocket to right pocket and back? Every 5 minutes?  Grin
Is this really bitcoin invented for?  Grin
A chinese gambler used to do it, gambler's fallacy etc.

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March 06, 2016, 09:57:19 PM
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To be correct the number 28k is the total number of transactions in this "stress-test".


Why do you assume this address is being used for 'stress-testing'?  Are you just making a guess?
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March 06, 2016, 10:02:42 PM
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Why do you assume this address is being used for 'stress-testing'?  Are you just making a guess?
Are you able to use blockexplorer?  Grin
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March 06, 2016, 10:05:04 PM
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I don't see anything wrong with that.
28k transfers from left pocket to right pocket and back? Every 5 minutes?  Grin
Is this really bitcoin invented for?  Grin

In a way, yes. You own it and can do whatever the f*ck you want with it, without having to explain yourself to any authority.

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March 06, 2016, 10:07:42 PM
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As far as one paying significant fee to the miners each and every transaction will get confirmed in no time.

If the owner of that address added zero fee or a very low fee (~1 to 10 sat) we can pretty much conclude it as jamming the network.

If his prime intention was to do so then he is losing his coins in fees. Wink
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March 06, 2016, 10:09:53 PM
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What if they added a txt file as a well to advertise their products I think that would be better than sending useless dust
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March 06, 2016, 10:28:11 PM
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28k transfers from left pocket to right pocket and back? Every 5 minutes?  Grin
Is this really bitcoin invented for?  Grin

Creating transactions that transfer control of value from a set of previously unspent outputs to newly created unspent outputs, while rewarding "miners" with transaction fees?

Yes.  This is exactly what bitcoin was created for.

The whole idea behind the creation of bitcoin is that there is no centralized controler of the system who can decide that your personal use doesn't fall within their intended use and then stop you.


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March 06, 2016, 10:45:56 PM
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Strange choice of transactions, all paying okay fees, seems like a waste of bitcoin for the individual.
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March 07, 2016, 12:41:40 AM
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Not understanding the reason, this believed to be making a statement? Some times I think its a sign bitcoin attracts some ocd behaviour. The gambler aspect I can believe as well.

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March 07, 2016, 03:26:25 AM
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maybe you are right
look at this transaction from his address
https://blockchain.info/tx/b2005c06d6fa9b455904221efde88e94b8149afcf5d1d34d9c20912f42b411c8
Size    : 2402 (bytes) but the fee only  0.00015 BTC   Lips sealed Angry
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March 07, 2016, 05:28:00 AM
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Have a look to this address
https://blockchain.info/address/18JrJCiwQTyAY6Jq98ABLMoTNr6LrK65BB
and follow to any other address.

Do you see what I see?

These transactions are not bitcoin mixing. The creator of these transactions just moves funds between several his addresses.
Each address has about ~28k transactions and counting
To be correct the number 28k is the total number of transactions in this "stress-test".

I do not know any reason to fill the blockchain with these kind of flood.


i don't sure someone will get a free time just to do this kind of useless thing except they're using an automated bot to send the transaction just like macro,maybe it's a project?

Here's what we know:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=197593

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I sold him an address and he paid me. He sent me first and it went well. I have no objections in it.

Then I found, he is hosting a script(obviously) or doing manually - he is moving all received BTC in the addresses he bought to his address(es). That is some sort of stealing but I am not going further to it in this feedback.

I contacted him saying I need to do something and please don't move the BTC addresses. He moved some of my BTC which I sent to that addresses for some purpose. I contacted him again IIRC. He didn't reply to a single message. I don't think this user is a good choice when doing any business or trade.

TL;DR: This negative feedback isn't for stealing or any other, it is for not responding which is really a BAD thing and not a good character for a trader. I depreciate doing business with him with or without escrow.

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Address                                                           Created/First Use Date

18JrJCiwQTyAY6Jq98ABLMoTNr6LrK65BB          2015-10-16 10:00:38
1JPdSpvfqCHxsViDWaGvKmYtP2jG6y3W2          2015-10-16 10:00:38
1KnbWNS5XY5X9sRKo8vV9bwnWexMJKy4GH    2015-10-16 10:00:38
1LFAwCeBaJvFm4sL5W5PdyNfMyN9mUhTDv      2015-10-16 10:00:38
18JstwejVrsh2gVas2K52MvJRkpHWx1hMK         2015-10-16 10:00:38
1B45QRp2i32Cng2qxhdHqHyPjU32nqhtF3          2015-10-16 10:00:38
1PSTNtPTLe8wPUajyiBbRoBwcouvJpu3ZJ           2015-10-16 10:00:38
1KhTtLmSVgwcsFLBZnvhNYxMEzabRd7A4i        2015-10-16 12:44:39
1Ns99r9eckfY59dMUTdZ3BYKRGrHrzVb3Z         2015-10-16 10:00:38
1ALwzRPVvxvdeXfJQww5jdpcZuU2Myhd83        2015-10-16 12:44:39
181TA8PXbvwwEdX6atsCSFjK6RCVVcNqih         2015-10-16 12:44:39
1H9aoyAnZan7MqUxYQVqtiqi18F74NCuqn         2015-10-16 10:00:38
14N7TDMwFc4pxJ3xXGjC4kXAZcZKzdoYQf        2015-10-16 10:00:38
1Eto5UFzbQmXfFxzB7P6u5HgHWf77HYT16       2015-10-16 10:00:38

14 addresses belonging to the same wallet: 11 created on 2015-10-16 10:00:38; 3 created on 2015-10-16 12:44:39.

https://blockchain.info/address/1Eto5UFzbQmXfFxzB7P6u5HgHWf77HYT16



Is that a change way to fund an address at the exact same time from three different addresses (right) belonging to the same wallet? - https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/0271a974ab6dcb45/addresses - This [anomaly] transpired virtually halfway between the creation of the first 11 addresses and the 3 subsequent addresses stemming from the ONLY address currently not in use (last transaction: 2015-11-07 10:08:50).

Total spent in fees = ~ U$1,400.
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March 07, 2016, 06:02:49 AM
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This is very strange for someone to waste this sort of BTCitcoin in which most of them will go for fee payments as result since it looks like a continuous type of transactions (mostly bot related). It could be used to deceive a brand that is paying perhaps (most likely a investment company that tricks into paying).

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March 07, 2016, 06:10:58 AM
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isn't it quite possible for this all to be some form of test? or at very least a group of people trying to support and potentially break BTC by seeing what it can/ cant handle, or doing it just for the sake of helping the network out by supplying transactions. hell it is even possible that they are focused primarily on implementing some update into their wallets to test out a new form of attack. all I know is that currently they are not harming anything and in fact might be helping the chain. I wouldn't worry until it is time to.


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