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March 09, 2016, 04:59:13 AM |
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How do you place a wager on two sides use the same time? I mean when deposits go up and down at least you need in a few seconds different, as far as I know the system Secoundtrade you have to deposit Up then deposit down of course need a few seconds difference can not simultaneously. unless you can explain how you bet simultaneously on different sides (Up and Down)
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March 09, 2016, 05:02:38 AM |
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How do you place a wager on two sides use the same time? I mean when deposits go up and down at least you need in a few seconds different as far as I know the system Secoundtrade you have to deposit Up then deposit down of course need a few seconds difference can not simultaneously. unless you can explain how you bet simultaneously on different sides (Up and Down) he sent to bot UP and DOWN in a single transaction, check the transaction he provided and you will know @OP PM secondstrade about this so he can answer what happened to your bets
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March 09, 2016, 05:35:24 AM |
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How do you place a wager on two sides use the same time? I mean when deposits go up and down at least you need in a few seconds different as far as I know the system Secoundtrade you have to deposit Up then deposit down of course need a few seconds difference can not simultaneously. unless you can explain how you bet simultaneously on different sides (Up and Down) he sent to bot UP and DOWN in a single transaction, check the transaction he provided and you will know @OP PM secondstrade about this so he can answer what happened to your bets 1 transaction is available only one bitcoin address. we have published about that on the http://secondstrade.com/notice.html. refer to the number 2. thank you.
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lemipawa
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March 09, 2016, 05:46:30 AM |
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Which one will be honored if this kind of case happens? or both deposits will not qualify. I hope this was published in your thread in this forum as most players or users of your site don't check those announcements and rely most on what is published here.
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Nextgen
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March 09, 2016, 06:01:42 AM |
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There have been numerous accusation against their site and majority of them had the same "Time" complaints but people still try it anyway so there is no need for them to consider anything said here. Which one will be honored if this kind of case happens? or both deposits will not qualify.
I think they disqualified both according to OP as none of his bets won.
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March 09, 2016, 06:21:58 AM |
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How do you place a wager on two sides use the same time? I mean when deposits go up and down at least you need in a few seconds different as far as I know the system Secoundtrade you have to deposit Up then deposit down of course need a few seconds difference can not simultaneously. unless you can explain how you bet simultaneously on different sides (Up and Down) he sent to bot UP and DOWN in a single transaction, check the transaction he provided and you will know @OP PM secondstrade about this so he can answer what happened to your bets 1 transaction is available only one bitcoin address. we have published about that on the http://secondstrade.com/notice.html. refer to the number 2. thank you. If i send 2 transactions from 2 bitcoin address at one time? i think not fair it.. What can you say about it?
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MadeinCoin
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March 09, 2016, 06:23:06 AM |
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he sent to bot UP and DOWN in a single transaction, check the transaction he provided and you will know
@OP PM secondstrade about this so he can answer what happened to your bets
OH yes he uses Bot I just checked it indeed all the deposit or bet made simultaneously It seems secoundtartrade also already clarified this issue so who's to blame http://imgur.com/FCthkMOhttp://imgur.com/DBNu9wW
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HackerBOSS
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March 09, 2016, 06:25:47 AM |
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There have been numerous accusation against their site and majority of them had the same "Time" complaints but people still try it anyway so there is no need for them to consider anything said here. Which one will be honored if this kind of case happens? or both deposits will not qualify.
I think they disqualified both according to OP as none of his bets won. I think need refund money in this case.. 2 bets lose - not fair. refund btc to players!
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HackerBOSS
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March 09, 2016, 06:27:25 AM |
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he sent to bot UP and DOWN in a single transaction, check the transaction he provided and you will know
@OP PM secondstrade about this so he can answer what happened to your bets
OH yes he uses Bot I just checked it indeed all the deposit or bet made simultaneously It seems secoundtartrade also already clarified this issue so who's to blame http://imgur.com/FCthkMOhttp://imgur.com/DBNu9wWis not BOT. it is new wallet i try too.. interest idea. thanks
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lemipawa
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March 09, 2016, 06:27:32 AM |
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If i send 2 transactions from 2 bitcoin address at one time?
i think not fair it..
What can you say about it?
I think if deposits will be sent using 2 different address, there will be a millisecond difference between the 2. 1 of the 2 deposit will confirm first than the other. So results will be different, unlike sending 2 deposits coming from just 1 address.
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March 09, 2016, 06:28:43 AM |
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It sounds like a joke for me, OP seems to be frustrated because he has been declined on secondstrade's sign campaign. He said that he play on secondstrade everyday and he seems pretend to not knowing the rules then make a scam accusation against the site. Look at his signature, he has been declined on nakedbitcoin sign campaign some time ago then make a bad words of nakedbitcoin on his signature. Just like a kid who just lost his candies
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HackerBOSS
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March 09, 2016, 06:32:01 AM |
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If i send 2 transactions from 2 bitcoin address at one time?
i think not fair it..
What can you say about it?
I think if deposits will be sent using 2 different address, there will be a millisecond difference between the 2. 1 of the 2 deposit will confirm first than the other. So results will be different, unlike sending 2 deposits coming from just 1 address. need generate two payment at one time. and milliseconds will be not difference
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HackerBOSS
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March 09, 2016, 06:34:12 AM |
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It sounds like a joke for me, OP seems to be frustrated because he has been declined on secondstrade's sign campaign. He said that he play on secondstrade everyday and he seems pretend to not knowing the rules then make a scam accusation against the site. Look at his signature, he has been declined on nakedbitcoin sign campaign some time ago then make a bad words of nakedbitcoin on his signature. Just like a kid who just lost his candies yes, but he provided proof! please check transaction.. one time - 2 payment. really proff
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btcmasterZ (OP)
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March 09, 2016, 06:41:47 AM |
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It sounds like a joke for me, OP seems to be frustrated because he has been declined on secondstrade's sign campaign. He said that he play on secondstrade everyday and he seems pretend to not knowing the rules then make a scam accusation against the site. Look at his signature, he has been declined on nakedbitcoin sign campaign some time ago then make a bad words of nakedbitcoin on his signature. Just like a kid who just lost his candies Hi, it's no joke! see my proof. i scammed.. or need refund my money.
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dragonusa9
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March 09, 2016, 06:57:01 AM |
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Hi,
it's no joke! see my proof. i scammed.. or need refund my money.
you say that you play on secondstrade everyday, but you dont know about rule on secondstrade i know you scammed, but are you paying attention into the rule? and why the bet can go into the same time without interlude ? why? i played every day on secondetrade.. i can tell my wallet via PM
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btcmasterZ (OP)
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March 09, 2016, 07:15:43 AM |
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Hi,
it's no joke! see my proof. i scammed.. or need refund my money.
you say that you play on secondstrade everyday, but you dont know about rule on secondstrade i know you scammed, but are you paying attention into the rule? and why the bet can go into the same time without interlude ? why? i played every day on secondetrade.. i can tell my wallet via PM
because i generated 2 payment at one time.. i know how do it. is not scam.
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Miiike
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Wait... What?
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March 09, 2016, 07:32:40 AM |
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It sounds like a joke for me, OP seems to be frustrated because he has been declined on secondstrade's sign campaign. He said that he play on secondstrade everyday and he seems pretend to not knowing the rules then make a scam accusation against the site. Look at his signature, he has been declined on nakedbitcoin sign campaign some time ago then make a bad words of nakedbitcoin on his signature. Just like a kid who just lost his candies Banned from yobit too.. I wonder, what's the point of sending 2 payment and place 2 different bets at the same time?
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Battareus
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March 09, 2016, 08:17:42 AM |
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It sounds like a joke for me, OP seems to be frustrated because he has been declined on secondstrade's sign campaign. He said that he play on secondstrade everyday and he seems pretend to not knowing the rules then make a scam accusation against the site. Look at his signature, he has been declined on nakedbitcoin sign campaign some time ago then make a bad words of nakedbitcoin on his signature. Just like a kid who just lost his candies Banned from yobit too.. I wonder, what's the point of sending 2 payment and place 2 different bets at the same time? Maybe for win win situation? If you send 1 bid to 5secs up and 220% of win and second to oddeven down with 198%.
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btcmasterZ (OP)
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March 09, 2016, 08:21:30 AM |
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It sounds like a joke for me, OP seems to be frustrated because he has been declined on secondstrade's sign campaign. He said that he play on secondstrade everyday and he seems pretend to not knowing the rules then make a scam accusation against the site. Look at his signature, he has been declined on nakedbitcoin sign campaign some time ago then make a bad words of nakedbitcoin on his signature. Just like a kid who just lost his candies Banned from yobit too.. I wonder, what's the point of sending 2 payment and place 2 different bets at the same time? do you have brain?? think.... it's easy, for win only!
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lemipawa
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March 09, 2016, 08:42:10 AM |
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do you have brain?? think....
it's easy, for win only!
Ok so you deposit 0.0005 BTC on Up and you deposit 0.0005 BTC on Down, that means your capital is 0.001 BTCYou are expecting a win on either of the 2 bets so you lost 0.0005 BTC and how much will be returned to you by secondstrade for winning with 0.0005 BTC deposit? Are they going to return 0.012 BTC? I'm not good in math but please help me out how can you profit from this
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btcmasterZ (OP)
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March 09, 2016, 09:20:03 AM |
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do you have brain?? think....
it's easy, for win only!
Ok so you deposit 0.0005 BTC on Up and you deposit 0.0005 BTC on Down, that means your capital is 0.001 BTCYou are expecting a win on either of the 2 bets so you lost 0.0005 BTC and how much will be returned to you by secondstrade for winning with 0.0005 BTC deposit? Are they going to return 0.012 BTC? I'm not good in math but please help me out how can you profit from this UP 0.0005, DOWN 0.0005 if UP WIN - revieve 0.0011.. If this will be not scam, can use big bet.. and big profit
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lemipawa
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March 09, 2016, 09:25:54 AM |
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do you have brain?? think....
it's easy, for win only!
Ok so you deposit 0.0005 BTC on Up and you deposit 0.0005 BTC on Down, that means your capital is 0.001 BTCYou are expecting a win on either of the 2 bets so you lost 0.0005 BTC and how much will be returned to you by secondstrade for winning with 0.0005 BTC deposit? Are they going to return 0.012 BTC? I'm not good in math but please help me out how can you profit from this UP 0.0005, DOWN 0.0005 if UP WIN - revieve 0.0011.. If this will be not scam, can use big bet.. and big profit ..and you think the site owners did not think about that loop hole that people will not take advantage of it to profit? Are you even aware of such rules that you cant place a bet or deposit on both up and down at the same time using same address? Anyway good luck to your dispute
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March 09, 2016, 10:27:59 AM |
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do you have brain?? think....
it's easy, for win only!
Ok so you deposit 0.0005 BTC on Up and you deposit 0.0005 BTC on Down, that means your capital is 0.001 BTCYou are expecting a win on either of the 2 bets so you lost 0.0005 BTC and how much will be returned to you by secondstrade for winning with 0.0005 BTC deposit? Are they going to return 0.012 BTC? I'm not good in math but please help me out how can you profit from this UP 0.0005, DOWN 0.0005 if UP WIN - revieve 0.0011.. If this will be not scam, can use big bet.. and big profit ..and you think the site owners did not think about that loop hole that people will not take advantage of it to profit? Are you even aware of such rules that you cant place a bet or deposit on both up and down at the same time using same address? Anyway good luck to your dispute Don't worry, he will probably be ashamed of himself Note this, People aren't stupid, don't try to take advantages of loopholes because chances are they are already patched Looks like he already make secondstrade scam accusation on his local topic, let's see where this comedy is going He will probably spam the forum is he feels to
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March 09, 2016, 10:30:54 AM |
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loool, you are so mad, because he didnot let you join to his signature campaign. its very shame to retaliating in such way
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btcmasterZ (OP)
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March 09, 2016, 10:33:48 AM |
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loool, you are so mad, because he didnot let you join to his signature campaign. its very shame to retaliating in such way Are you crazy maddy loser? I placed bet at every day.. And find scam now. See proof
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venan
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March 09, 2016, 11:01:43 AM |
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loool, you are so mad, because he didnot let you join to his signature campaign. its very shame to retaliating in such way Are you crazy maddy loser? I placed bet at every day.. And find scam now. See proof hahaha, what a funny kid you are. thousands of people are playing on cenondstrade.com and if you make mistake and you didnot receive payment, it didnot means that its scam, but you are crying like little kid: "its scam, scaaaaam". you must first find out what happens and stop writing such a boolshits
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btcmasterZ (OP)
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March 09, 2016, 11:25:34 AM |
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loool, you are so mad, because he didnot let you join to his signature campaign. its very shame to retaliating in such way Are you crazy maddy loser? I placed bet at every day.. And find scam now. See proof hahaha, what a funny kid you are. thousands of people are playing on cenondstrade.com and if you make mistake and you didnot receive payment, it didnot means that its scam, but you are crying like little kid: "its scam, scaaaaam". you must first find out what happens and stop writing such a boolshits You stupid.. See proof and screenshot. If bet placed at one time.. Result is ONE, not diffirent. Here result up-lose, down-lose.. Is piece of shit! Not fair! Teach math child
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btcmasterZ (OP)
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March 09, 2016, 11:50:49 AM |
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I've alread started a thread about them but it seems his getting away with his scam BECAUSE MOST members here are very stupid ... No negative trust yet to that bastard Here is a proof that secondstrade is rigged and its a scam please becarefull : I used my site to send two bets at the same time automatically every 1/2 Seconds using the blockchain api and check the results : Proof : All my bets included in the SAME RECIEVING TIME (Check the seconds) while i didn't send them at the same time , (there was a 1/2 Seconds delay between evey bet). If you are the secondstrade owner i ask you to refund my money or i will make sure to do something about this. If this is a bug please fix it and refund my money. Btc :1KtAUfVqKy8Te3ZjQ5tcEQp5v4F3cT7NXH - Lost more than 1 btc in total. EDIT:HERE IS AN OTHER PROOF THAT THE GAME IS RIGGED :PROOF: You are in big troubles SCAMMER. Transaction proves (The 1 second delay recieved correctly in secondstrade.com): TX 1: https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/ca638e5bfae469b34c58cb1207c5a76188964c9e95f7feb31d11f984758d26c8TX 2: https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/bef5130663e790ae8b28b7f3433eb39a2da1d90b91981738a5a4ee7ca2094bb2Transaction proves (The 2/3 seconds delay that proves secondstrade.com is rigged - Both Recieved at the same second in Secondstrade.com even if there was a 2/3 seconds between every bet !!!): TX 1: https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/4e0de8c25e2bf380d705b5f78768027b950bfd00c125b3c872acc89dd0a8b279TX 2: https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/8909483360fed6f13b7c890ac24657d97ac998c55de1ca9337b4542b6f721eb8Again this is a call to all members that they care about the safety of bitcointalk's members to give Secondstrade.com a negative trust until he refund all the scammed money. EDIT: The owner replied with a mind blowing answer that proves his game is rigged :As you can see above he said clearly : " if you send two orders each ---->0.5 seconds<----, it could deal with the same second. " AND my transaction as you can see in the image above was 2/3 seconds delay (Check the txs above) but it was recieved at the same second!!, NOW IF THIS IS NOT A PROOF THAT SECONDSTRADE.COM IS SCAMMING PEOPLE THAN I DONT KNOW HOW TO PROVE ANYTHING ANYMORE!!!!Note: The owner is totaly ignoring me and gone offline with no explanation or refund : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=813554.1140Hi friend! You right. It is very big scam! Secondstrade dont want refund my money!
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HackerBOSS
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March 09, 2016, 12:20:17 PM |
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OMG, is really scam! peoples dont play in this game, if you dont want lose all your money.
need open sig campaign - ***secondstrade.com - SCAM*** good luck, friends.
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KingOfBet
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March 09, 2016, 03:47:14 PM |
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you must first find out what happens and stop writing such a boolshits
bullshit is your post! I King of BET. and I know where scam! I see it f***ing scam. You need see all posts and understand that he right
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Nextgen
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March 09, 2016, 04:32:48 PM |
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loool, you are so mad, because he didnot let you join to his signature campaign. its very shame to retaliating in such way There are many others who complained very similar problems with their site and they too were retaliating for signature payments? thousands of people are playing on cenondstrade.com
You could at least know the correct name before shilling ? or you are afraid to cause it would be a lie ? and also the number of people involved doesn't makes anything scammy or not scammy.
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bitcoin-hunter
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March 10, 2016, 12:46:29 PM |
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There are many scams and that is not good. You must be careful and be safe. Bitcoin is becoming more used. And than there will be also more scams and that is not good. But yeah there are that kind of people.
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socks435
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March 10, 2016, 05:16:27 PM |
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I read this problem before from someone here in our forum the same as your issue that the problem is even he sent delay 1 second for every transaction they got the same time... and i think this is not a provably fair.. this is not a scam we can call it fraud..
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HackerBOSS
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March 11, 2016, 06:46:41 PM |
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do you refund btc topic starter? aaaa... your game not fair! I not recommended to play this f*****g game
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nanonymousx
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March 12, 2016, 04:46:16 AM |
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secondstrade is not a scam.
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KingOfBet
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March 14, 2016, 01:51:28 AM |
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secondstrade is not a scam.
really? i see proof that scam here. open your eyes friend.
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