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March 11, 2016, 04:57:26 PM
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Can someone please explain Ethereum to me? I've been reading and trying to understand but am very confused.
Is it an altcoin? Is it dependent on Bitcoin? They say that it works hand in hand with Bitcoin, but how?

My understanding is that it is just a blockchain that can be used for developing software - but is ether a coin or is it real estate on the Ethereum blockchain?

I'm not interested in technical bla bla bla.. I just want some explanation in plain terms. What is it?
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March 11, 2016, 05:00:32 PM
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No. There is no altcoin named Etherium. Did you mean Ethereum?

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March 11, 2016, 06:16:47 PM
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No. There is no altcoin named Etherium. Did you mean Ethereum?

Thanks, I fixed it.
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March 11, 2016, 06:25:44 PM
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Can someone please explain Ethereum to me? I've been reading and trying to understand but am very confused.
Is it an altcoin? Is it dependent on Bitcoin? They say that it works hand in hand with Bitcoin, but how?

My understanding is that it is just a blockchain that can be used for developing software - but is ether a coin or is it real estate on the Ethereum blockchain?

I'm not interested in technical bla bla bla.. I just want some explanation in plain terms. What is it?

Try this link https://www.quora.com/Whats-the-difference-between-Ethereum-and-Bitcoin?share=1

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Bitcoin is a cryptocurrency, designed to replace the notes and coins in your pocket with an internet based alternative. Ethereum is designed to be a programmatic platform which can be used to build, deploy and enforce smart contracts entered into by both human and computer counter-parties. In order to fund the distributed processing power required, Ethereum has its own internal currency called "Ether". So although both Bitcoin and Ether can be described as currencies, they serve different purposes, with Bitcoin intended to be a general purpose currency, whereas Ether is intended to be used exclusively to finance the internal workings of Ethereum. Whether or not Ether could ever grow into a general purpose currency is an interesting debate, but it's certainly not its intended purpose.

Remember Ether is the currency of the Ethereum platform and when you use Ether to pay the miner fee for a transaction is it called 'gas'.

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March 11, 2016, 07:41:22 PM
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Basically every coin which has been created after Bitcoin is called an altcoin. It does not play a role whether it was programmed from scratch or not. From this point of view, Ethereum is an altcoin as any other coin, too.
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March 11, 2016, 07:43:53 PM
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ETH is more of a decentralized computing system which happens to have a crypto coin built in. Tongue


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March 11, 2016, 08:18:08 PM
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Well, but this is not an unique characteristic of Ethereum. This could not be taken as an argument for not calling it an altcoin.

ETH is more of a decentralized computing system which happens to have a crypto coin built in. Tongue
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March 11, 2016, 10:37:32 PM
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Basically every coin which has been created after Bitcoin is called an altcoin. It does not play a role whether it was programmed from scratch or not. From this point of view, Ethereum is an altcoin as any other coin, too.
OP, this right here is the truth.  There's bitcoin and then there's everything else (altcoins).  Now this isn't to say that it's going to be that way forever.  If ETH overtook bitcoin somehow, bitcoin itself could become an altcoin.  Stranger things have happened.

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March 11, 2016, 11:10:27 PM
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Basically every coin which has been created after Bitcoin is called an altcoin. It does not play a role whether it was programmed from scratch or not. From this point of view, Ethereum is an altcoin as any other coin, too.
OP, this right here is the truth.  There's bitcoin and then there's everything else (altcoins).  Now this isn't to say that it's going to be that way forever.  If ETH overtook bitcoin somehow, bitcoin itself could become an altcoin.  Stranger things have happened.

Bitcoin could never become an "alternate" coin as it is the first mainstream cryptocurrency. I am not disputing it could fade away and another "alt" move up at some point, but Bitcoin would then simply become known as something like "the original", the "predecessor" or "the founder coin", but never could it be an alt.

For now though, there is a very simple test you can perform to see if something is a alt coin.

Step 1: Is it Bitcoin?
Step 2: If yes, then no it is not an altcoin, it is Bitcoin.
Step 2: If no, then it is not Bitcoin, thus it is an altcoin.
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March 11, 2016, 11:29:17 PM
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Bitcoin is a cryptocurrency, designed to replace the notes and coins in your pocket with an internet based alternative. Ethereum is designed to be a programmatic platform which can be used to build, deploy and enforce smart contracts entered into by both human and computer counter-parties. In order to fund the distributed processing power required, Ethereum has its own internal currency called "Ether". So although both Bitcoin and Ether can be described as currencies, they serve different purposes, with Bitcoin intended to be a general purpose currency, whereas Ether is intended to be used exclusively to finance the internal workings of Ethereum. Whether or not Ether could ever grow into a general purpose currency is an interesting debate, but it's certainly not its intended purpose.

Remember Ether is the currency of the Ethereum platform and when you use Ether to pay the miner fee for a transaction is it called 'gas'.

See this is what I'm having trouble understanding. If I were to word this differently, I'd say it's a blockchain operated by an altcoin they are in denial of.

Is that the case, or is Ether some real estate on the Ethereum blockchain? Can I trade Ether as a coin I can invest in, or does the purchase of Ether merely give me programming rights on Ethereum?
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Bitcoin is a cryptocurrency, designed to replace the notes and coins in your pocket with an internet based alternative. Ethereum is designed to be a programmatic platform which can be used to build, deploy and enforce smart contracts entered into by both human and computer counter-parties. In order to fund the distributed processing power required, Ethereum has its own internal currency called "Ether". So although both Bitcoin and Ether can be described as currencies, they serve different purposes, with Bitcoin intended to be a general purpose currency, whereas Ether is intended to be used exclusively to finance the internal workings of Ethereum. Whether or not Ether could ever grow into a general purpose currency is an interesting debate, but it's certainly not its intended purpose.

Remember Ether is the currency of the Ethereum platform and when you use Ether to pay the miner fee for a transaction is it called 'gas'.

See this is what I'm having trouble understanding. If I were to word this differently, I'd say it's a blockchain operated by an altcoin they are in denial of.

Is that the case, or is Ether some real estate on the Ethereum blockchain? Can I trade Ether as a coin I can invest in, or does the purchase of Ether merely give me programming rights on Ethereum?

From my understanding, it is a currency, but also much more. I think a lot of the wording is because they are trying to get across the point that Ether is not "just" a currency, but can be used for much more, powering Ethereum applications for one.

Remember all of this is new territory, and with these new "currencies" (using the word loosely) opens up many new and exciting opportunities that did not exist before. The old days of looking at a currency as simply the paper fiat in your wallet are so limiting at what new blockchain technologies are capable of, that I think they are shying away from branding Ethereum, or its Ether, as such.

In essence, we are going to have to rethink what a currency is capable of, or even what it is for that matter. Decoupling old concepts such as centralization, Central bankers, Banks, or even exchanges and marketplaces, contracts, etc., basically every and anything connected to our current way of thinking about money will need to change as these new technologies grown and mature and slowly replace the traditional financial system. This won't happen overnight, but the initial seeds are already being planted, both in practice and more importantly in peoples minds.
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March 12, 2016, 06:01:32 AM
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Basically every coin which has been created after Bitcoin is called an altcoin. It does not play a role whether it was programmed from scratch or not. From this point of view, Ethereum is an altcoin as any other coin, too.


Ethereum is an alt coin as it was built by those greedy bastard that what to wipe out bitcoin.
Those ethereum developers are so naive to take down bitcoin with alt coin which is getting some hype.
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March 12, 2016, 08:35:56 AM
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Well since none of these guy will answer the question.. hmm i wonder why ?  Roll Eyes

NO.. it's not.

An altcoin is a currency and this ETH is not a currency.
It seems to be some kind of block-chain add-on app's digital token spin-off type thing.

The question in the topic title is clear..
Would i classify it as a "Currency / Altcoin" ? NOPE !

This ETH shit pushes off in a new direction..
And this was to solve a glaring / obvious problem that needed to be solved ?
In relation to a digital currency ?

Does it compete with or improve on Bitcoin or say Litecoin etc ?

Seems to me it's a horrendous scammy IPO launched "coin" that was hidden for years ..on purpose !
And it has a gimmick associated with it of the sole purpose of separating itself from the others.

Just ask yourself guys.. WHAT does it actually do ?
And was there a need for that ?
Would "THAT" be considered a currency ?

I wouldn't get involved with it because it's not a currency
and i came to the Altcoin scene to support a digital currency.
Profit making on a Pyramid scheme is irrelevant.

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March 12, 2016, 06:57:04 PM
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Well since none of these guy will answer the question.. hmm i wonder why ?  Roll Eyes

NO.. it's not.

An altcoin is a currency and this ETH is not a currency.
It seems to be some kind of block-chain add-on app's digital token spin-off type thing.

The question in the topic title is clear..
Would i classify it as a "Currency / Altcoin" ? NOPE !

This ETH shit pushes off in a new direction..
And this was to solve a glaring / obvious problem that needed to be solved ?
In relation to a digital currency ?

Does it compete with or improve on Bitcoin or say Litecoin etc ?

Seems to me it's a horrendous scammy IPO launched "coin" that was hidden for years ..on purpose !
And it has a gimmick associated with it of the sole purpose of separating itself from the others.

Just ask yourself guys.. WHAT does it actually do ?
And was there a need for that ?
Would "THAT" be considered a currency ?

I wouldn't get involved with it because it's not a currency
and i came to the Altcoin scene to support a digital currency.
Profit making on a Pyramid scheme is irrelevant.


kinda hard to understand what you're saying but I think you answered the question.
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March 12, 2016, 07:06:43 PM
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Well since none of these guy will answer the question.. hmm i wonder why ?  Roll Eyes

NO.. it's not.

An altcoin is a currency and this ETH is not a currency.
It seems to be some kind of block-chain add-on app's digital token spin-off type thing.

The question in the topic title is clear..
Would i classify it as a "Currency / Altcoin" ? NOPE !

This ETH shit pushes off in a new direction..
And this was to solve a glaring / obvious problem that needed to be solved ?
In relation to a digital currency ?

Does it compete with or improve on Bitcoin or say Litecoin etc ?

Seems to me it's a horrendous scammy IPO launched "coin" that was hidden for years ..on purpose !
And it has a gimmick associated with it of the sole purpose of separating itself from the others.

Just ask yourself guys.. WHAT does it actually do ?
And was there a need for that ?
Would "THAT" be considered a currency ?

I wouldn't get involved with it because it's not a currency
and i came to the Altcoin scene to support a digital currency.
Profit making on a Pyramid scheme is irrelevant.


Im not saying you are wrong but... man do you love getting trolled lol

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March 12, 2016, 07:08:23 PM
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Well since none of these guy will answer the question.. hmm i wonder why ?  Roll Eyes

NO.. it's not.

An altcoin is a currency and this ETH is not a currency.
It seems to be some kind of block-chain add-on app's digital token spin-off type thing.

The question in the topic title is clear..
Would i classify it as a "Currency / Altcoin" ? NOPE !

This ETH shit pushes off in a new direction..
And this was to solve a glaring / obvious problem that needed to be solved ?
In relation to a digital currency ?

Does it compete with or improve on Bitcoin or say Litecoin etc ?

Seems to me it's a horrendous scammy IPO launched "coin" that was hidden for years ..on purpose !
And it has a gimmick associated with it of the sole purpose of separating itself from the others.

Just ask yourself guys.. WHAT does it actually do ?
And was there a need for that ?
Would "THAT" be considered a currency ?

I wouldn't get involved with it because it's not a currency
and i came to the Altcoin scene to support a digital currency.
Profit making on a Pyramid scheme is irrelevant.


kinda hard to understand what you're saying but I think you answered the question.

i call bullshit !

explain to me what don't you get ?

all of it ?
you seem to speak English well enough.. do i have to talk slower ? LOL



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I made some assertions and they went ignored with some snarky comments / jabs at me *again*
WOW never seen that here before hahahha

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Ok well this is what I do and don't understand:

Well since none of these guy will answer the question.. hmm i wonder why ?  Roll Eyes

NO.. it's not.

An altcoin is a currency and this ETH is not a currency.
It seems to be some kind of block-chain add-on app's digital token spin-off type thing.

The question in the topic title is clear..
Would i classify it as a "Currency / Altcoin" ? NOPE !


Clear.

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This ETH shit pushes off in a new direction..
And this was to solve a glaring / obvious problem that needed to be solved ?
In relation to a digital currency ?

Does it compete with or improve on Bitcoin or say Litecoin etc ?

Seems to me it's a horrendous scammy IPO launched "coin" that was hidden for years ..on purpose !
And it has a gimmick associated with it of the sole purpose of separating itself from the others.


Unclear but I guess this is just a rant.

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Just ask yourself guys.. WHAT does it actually do ?
And was there a need for that ?
Would "THAT" be considered a currency ?

I wouldn't get involved with it because it's not a currency
and i came to the Altcoin scene to support a digital currency.
Profit making on a Pyramid scheme is irrelevant.

Not sure what you mean by pyramid scheme either.

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Ok well this is what I do and don't understand:

Well since none of these guy will answer the question.. hmm i wonder why ?  Roll Eyes

NO.. it's not.

An altcoin is a currency and this ETH is not a currency.
It seems to be some kind of block-chain add-on app's digital token spin-off type thing.

The question in the topic title is clear..
Would i classify it as a "Currency / Altcoin" ? NOPE !


Clear.

Quote
This ETH shit pushes off in a new direction..
And this was to solve a glaring / obvious problem that needed to be solved ?
In relation to a digital currency ?

Does it compete with or improve on Bitcoin or say Litecoin etc ?

Seems to me it's a horrendous scammy IPO launched "coin" that was hidden for years ..on purpose !
And it has a gimmick associated with it of the sole purpose of separating itself from the others.


Unclear but I guess this is just a rant.

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Just ask yourself guys.. WHAT does it actually do ?
And was there a need for that ?
Would "THAT" be considered a currency ?

I wouldn't get involved with it because it's not a currency
and i came to the Altcoin scene to support a digital currency.
Profit making on a Pyramid scheme is irrelevant.

Not sure what you mean by pyramid scheme either.



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simple ?

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March 13, 2016, 04:50:46 PM
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Can someone please explain Ethereum to me? I've been reading and trying to understand but am very confused.
Is it an altcoin? Is it dependent on Bitcoin? They say that it works hand in hand with Bitcoin, but how?

My understanding is that it is just a blockchain that can be used for developing software - but is ether a coin or is it real estate on the Ethereum blockchain?

I'm not interested in technical bla bla bla.. I just want some explanation in plain terms. What is it?
dude,if Etherum not a altcoin,it will not listed on exchange,as you know now etherum listed in almost every altcoin exchange.
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anything bitcoin based fork is an altcoin not $etc
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