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July 27, 2016, 02:31:49 AM
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If the big ETH whales sell the ETC, the ETC price will go to almost zero. So the chain will die eventually.
Hopefully that would not happen because that would affect all the altcoins, we know that ETH is gaining the success currently and new coins is also starting to have that success so if anything happen, it would probably create a panic in the crypto world for altcoins.

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July 27, 2016, 02:49:29 AM
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Is this true? This comment will need its own thread because this is very serious. Vitalik out of his panic in getting a fix and a solution before the attacker can dump his shares has made an even bigger problem.

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July 27, 2016, 02:59:52 AM
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Is this true? This comment will need its own thread because this is very serious. Vitalik out of his panic in getting a fix and a solution before the attacker can dump his shares has made an even bigger problem.

Yes, that is why Vitalik asked Ethereum classic to fork to fix this issue but they are refusing. Sloppy indeed as they didnt even account for the possibility of 2 coins surviving. 

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July 27, 2016, 03:08:19 AM
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Ethereum developers, the foundation and Vitalik are now laughed at in the cryptosphere? What are the old men of crypto thinking now? If Satoshi was here what will he say to this?

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July 27, 2016, 03:36:34 AM
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Ethereum developers, the foundation and Vitalik are now laughed at in the cryptosphere? What are the old men of crypto thinking now? If Satoshi was here what will he say to this?

Many old cipherpunks thought that this project was naive and doomed from the start. Vitalik is indeed intelligent , but young , inexperienced and unwise. They don't appear to understand that we exist in an adversarial environment 24/7 and one must plan for every possible attack as real money is on the line.
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July 27, 2016, 04:57:34 AM
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Ethereum developers, the foundation and Vitalik are now laughed at in the cryptosphere? What are the old men of crypto thinking now? If Satoshi was here what will he say to this?

Many old cipherpunks thought that this project was naive and doomed from the start. Vitalik is indeed intelligent , but young , inexperienced and unwise. They don't appear to understand that we exist in an adversarial environment 24/7 and one must plan for every possible attack as real money is on the line.

QFT.

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July 27, 2016, 07:17:10 AM
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Ethereum developers, the foundation and Vitalik are now laughed at in the cryptosphere? What are the old men of crypto thinking now? If Satoshi was here what will he say to this?

Many old cipherpunks thought that this project was naive and doomed from the start. Vitalik is indeed intelligent , but young , inexperienced and unwise. They don't appear to understand that we exist in an adversarial environment 24/7 and one must plan for every possible attack as real money is on the line.

QFT.

I'm mining ETC just for the principle of it.

Now that attitude will create a movement that matters. I know you will not be the only one. The hash rate is increasing and I speculate that those miners are pointing their power to the original Ethereum classic for the same reasons as yours. But having some extra coins would be nice also.

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July 27, 2016, 07:55:22 AM
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Is this true? This comment will need its own thread because this is very serious. Vitalik out of his panic in getting a fix and a solution before the attacker can dump his shares has made an even bigger problem.

Yes, that is why Vitalik asked Ethereum classic to fork to fix this issue but they are refusing. Sloppy indeed as they didnt even account for the possibility of 2 coins surviving. 



This is very serious if this is true.

What an epic fail! Could very well mean the end of ETH.

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July 27, 2016, 07:59:43 AM
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The FUD is real lol. ETC is vulnerable. Also poloniex will split for you if you send your ether there, so send ether there, dump your ETC, then to be 200% sure withdraw ETH to a new adress.
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July 27, 2016, 08:01:30 AM
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Ethereum developers, the foundation and Vitalik are now laughed at in the cryptosphere? What are the old men of crypto thinking now? If Satoshi was here what will he say to this?
What? You mean Satoshi '1Mb block size' Nakamoto?

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July 27, 2016, 08:04:06 AM
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July 27, 2016, 02:24:17 PM
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lol goxing ? lol
o mg thanks for a big laugh

how many etc did they lose ?

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July 27, 2016, 02:33:00 PM
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For the past 30 days I checked the ETH price graph and It's dumped hard from 0.028BTC the highest to 0.0124BTC the lowest which is more than the half. ETH is trying to recover and I think more investors will join ETH.

The price is around 0.018 now. I think it could rise to new all time high if the community and companies support it.
look this is from the ether page:
Build unstoppable applications ( the dao was one and the stoped it )

Ethereum is a decentralized platform that runs smart contracts: applications that run exactly as programmed without any possibility of downtime, censorship, fraud or third party interference.
but the fork did interfer
These apps run on a custom built blockchain, an enormously powerful shared global infrastructure that can move value around and represent the ownership of property. This enables developers to create markets, store registries of debts or promises, move funds in accordance with instructions given long in the past (like a will or a futures contract) and many other things that have not been invented yet, all without a middle man or counterparty risk.
the fork leave so called colateral with a loss till humans might or might not replay them .
that means the blockchain like it is now with the option to fork might harm biz that is already running on it
not a very good perspectiv for new investors

correct me if i am wrong

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July 28, 2016, 07:22:57 AM
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For the past 30 days I checked the ETH price graph and It's dumped hard from 0.028BTC the highest to 0.0124BTC the lowest which is more than the half. ETH is trying to recover and I think more investors will join ETH.

The price is around 0.018 now. I think it could rise to new all time high if the community and companies support it.
look this is from the ether page:
Build unstoppable applications ( the dao was one and the stoped it )

Ethereum is a decentralized platform that runs smart contracts: applications that run exactly as programmed without any possibility of downtime, censorship, fraud or third party interference.
but the fork did interfer
These apps run on a custom built blockchain, an enormously powerful shared global infrastructure that can move value around and represent the ownership of property. This enables developers to create markets, store registries of debts or promises, move funds in accordance with instructions given long in the past (like a will or a futures contract) and many other things that have not been invented yet, all without a middle man or counterparty risk.
the fork leave so called colateral with a loss till humans might or might not replay them .
that means the blockchain like it is now with the option to fork might harm biz that is already running on it
not a very good perspectiv for new investors

correct me if i am wrong

If you can catch the thief before the hard fork, there is no need to do the hard fork. It is unfortunate.
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July 28, 2016, 10:20:28 AM
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Ethereum is damaged either way fork or no fork. It is very unfortunate, yes. Even if they catch the "thief" how can they charge him as a "thief"? If Vitalik files a case on him what is Vitalik's argument? How did the "thief" "steal" all that ETH?

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July 28, 2016, 11:05:14 AM
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I think ETC is just another measure to make sure ETH permanently fails, even if ETC does too.

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July 29, 2016, 06:37:06 AM
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I think ETC is just another measure to make sure ETH permanently fails, even if ETC does too.

I saw the volume of the Ethereum is very high, the price of bitcoin does not increase, so do you think people are more interested in Ethereum than bitcoin now?
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July 29, 2016, 06:49:26 AM
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I think ETC is just another measure to make sure ETH permanently fails, even if ETC does too.

I saw the volume of the Ethereum is very high, the price of bitcoin does not increase, so do you think people are more interested in Ethereum than bitcoin now?

Hell Naw. You can't make the same profits in BTC that you can in the ETHEREUM asset family because the volatility just isn't there.  If you were day trading BTC, now you are day trading ETH/ETC instead, and it's on every damn exchange now so all you have to do is click a sifferent trading pair.
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July 29, 2016, 11:50:03 AM
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I think ETC is just another measure to make sure ETH permanently fails, even if ETC does too.

I saw the volume of the Ethereum is very high, the price of bitcoin does not increase, so do you think people are more interested in Ethereum than bitcoin now?

Hell Naw. You can't make the same profits in BTC that you can in the ETHEREUM asset family because the volatility just isn't there.  If you were day trading BTC, now you are day trading ETH/ETC instead, and it's on every damn exchange now so all you have to do is click a sifferent trading pair.

If the ETC is used only for trading purpose, it might last long. It might be killed by the DAO hacker in a few months.
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July 29, 2016, 01:13:10 PM
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I think ETC is just another measure to make sure ETH permanently fails, even if ETC does too.

I saw the volume of the Ethereum is very high, the price of bitcoin does not increase, so do you think people are more interested in Ethereum than bitcoin now?

Hell Naw. You can't make the same profits in BTC that you can in the ETHEREUM asset family because the volatility just isn't there.  If you were day trading BTC, now you are day trading ETH/ETC instead, and it's on every damn exchange now so all you have to do is click a sifferent trading pair.

If the ETC is used only for trading purpose, it might last long. It might be killed by the DAO hacker in a few months.
For now, you cannot really trust ETH to make a long term investment, it should only be treated a short term investment and the trend is just normal when the price decreases that much in the following few days price will be back to normal. Easy to make money if that trend will happen all the time.

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