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March 14, 2016, 05:11:12 PM
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There is no way for a smart contract to form an objective consensus about events that occur external to a block chain. All voting is a power vacuum that fails due to the Iron Law of Political Economics. This press release is bullshit with no adoption and is merely to sell more ETH tokens to fools. Augur and Slock.it and 99% of the apps/contracts announced for Ethereum are so flawed they can never work. |
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March 14, 2016, 05:24:51 PM |
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There is no way for a smart contract to form an objective consensus about events that occur external to a block chain. Besides there rates will need to be set by a consensus of drivers. If you haven't noticed, it is the drivers who are destroying Uber. All voting is a power vacuum that fails due to the Iron Law of Political Economics. This press release is bullshit with no adoption and is merely to sell more ETH tokens to fools. Augur and Slock.it and 99% of the apps/contracts announced for Ethereum are so flawed they can never work. Erm... If the app keeps track of drivers journeys and is based on a contract that issues arcade city tokens (based on journey completion, rate and mileage), then driving is effectively mining for arcade city tokens which translates to a share of the company. |
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March 14, 2016, 05:27:13 PM |
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Erm... If the app keeps track of drivers journeys
And my point is there is no way to reach objective consensus on the driver's journeys. Read my prior post again and try to understand it, because it flew right over your head. You n00bs don't even have a fucking clue at all about the technology. |
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March 14, 2016, 05:31:58 PM |
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Erm... If the app keeps track of drivers journeys
And my point is there is no way to reach objective consensus on the driver's journeys. Read my prior post again and try to understand it, because it flew right over your head. You n00bs don't even have a fucking clue at all about the technology. Consensus is not needed, just details of the journey and rate. As an astute, brilliant and seasoned developer I would have assumed you knew that. |
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TPTB_need_war
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March 14, 2016, 05:33:19 PM |
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Erm... If the app keeps track of drivers journeys
And my point is there is no way to reach objective consensus on the driver's journeys. Read my prior post again and try to understand it, because it flew right over your head. You n00bs don't even have a fucking clue at all about the technology. Consensus is not needed, just details of the journey and rate. As an astute, brilliant and seasoned developer I would have assumed you knew that. Incorrect. You go learn something and come back when you are not totally ignorant. Btw, as I explained in the Ethereum Paradox thread about other proposed Ethereum applications, if you just want the customer and the driver to agree on what has been delivered and record a payment, then you only need multi-sig for that which can be done with Bitcoin. If you want an objective consensus on other facts, then a block chain can't do that because a block chain is only objective about the longest chain rule and nothing external to the block chain. |
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March 14, 2016, 05:34:44 PM |
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Erm... If the app keeps track of drivers journeys
And my point is there is no way to reach objective consensus on the driver's journeys. Read my prior post again and try to understand it, because it flew right over your head. You n00bs don't even have a fucking clue at all about the technology. Consensus is not needed, just details of the journey and rate. As an astute, brilliant and seasoned developer I would have assumed you knew that. Incorrect. You go learn something and come back when you are not totally ignorant. I've just learnt that you are not as brilliant as you like to believe. |
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March 14, 2016, 05:36:35 PM |
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is this crap game just started yesterday? this is a big new for crap eth. |
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TPTB_need_war
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March 14, 2016, 05:37:56 PM |
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Erm... If the app keeps track of drivers journeys
And my point is there is no way to reach objective consensus on the driver's journeys. Read my prior post again and try to understand it, because it flew right over your head. You n00bs don't even have a fucking clue at all about the technology. Consensus is not needed, just details of the journey and rate. As an astute, brilliant and seasoned developer I would have assumed you knew that. Incorrect. You go learn something and come back when you are not totally ignorant. I've just learnt that you are not as brilliant as you like to believe. Your disease is known as the Dunning-Kruger syndrome. I am sure everyone would be thrilled if you were to attempt (and fail) to explain all the technical facts. |
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March 14, 2016, 05:39:47 PM |
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Erm... If the app keeps track of drivers journeys
And my point is there is no way to reach objective consensus on the driver's journeys. Read my prior post again and try to understand it, because it flew right over your head. You n00bs don't even have a fucking clue at all about the technology. Consensus is not needed, just details of the journey and rate. As an astute, brilliant and seasoned developer I would have assumed you knew that. Incorrect. You go learn something and come back when you are not totally ignorant. I've just learnt that you are not as brilliant as you like to believe. Your disease is known as the Dunning-Kruger syndrome. I am sure everyone would be thrilled if you were to attempt (and fail) to explain all the technical facts. Maybe so, but I do know how a smart contract works. After your feeble statement I'm not sure you do. |
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March 14, 2016, 05:42:42 PM |
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StinkyLover I challenge right now to a live video debate.
Put up or shut up.
Yes or no?
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March 14, 2016, 05:43:24 PM |
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StinkyLover I challenge right now to a live video debate.
Put up or shut up.
Yes or no?
LOOL! You are a joker. Get lost. |
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March 14, 2016, 05:44:27 PM |
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StinkyLover I challenge right now to a live video debate.
Put up or shut up.
Yes or no?
LOOL! You are a joker. Get lost. So readers now you know he shut up because he knows in a live video debate, his lies will be revealed. |
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March 14, 2016, 05:53:53 PM |
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StinkyLover I challenge right now to a live video debate.
Put up or shut up.
Yes or no?
LOOL! You are a joker. Get lost. So readers now you know he shut up because he knows in a live video debate, his lies will be revealed. Whatever you say, baby doll. Keep those long posts coming. I'm still waiting for your contribution to the industry. Then we'll ALL see the truth (or lies). |
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March 14, 2016, 05:55:00 PM |
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Furthermore, ArcadeCity does not use ETH for payment. Cash, credit card, debit, and Paypal are accepted. The Ethereum integration is primarily to sell tokens to drivers, i.e. a way to do public offering (let's hope they comply with SEC regulations): Arcade City will use Ethereum to issue ‘crypto-equity’ to drivers, allowing them to own up to 100% of the company by 2020. It has nothing to do with using Ethereum to enable some new technology that improves upon Uber. It is about governance and creating a copycoin P&D in the Uber space. |
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March 14, 2016, 08:54:17 PM |
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TPTB is correct, although I'll try and explain in a more digestible manner  A contract in ETH (or any platform for that matter) can only come to a reliable consensus if the information it is using to come to that consensus is solely internal to the system. In the case of this, the driver and the passenger could collude to input "fake" information into the system, perhaps so that the driver gets more tokens or whatever. There is no way for the system to check, irrefutably, that the journey really was say 20 miles in distance, it could all be fake. Even if you put a "black box" in the cab, you still cant ever be 100% sure that it wasn't tampered with, and so due to that uncertainly, the consensus can never be totally reliable. |
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March 14, 2016, 09:55:53 PM |
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Thanks Fuseleer. I've lost desire to explain more, because the trolls just start new threads that ignore what was already explained in the Ethereum Paradox thread, wherein I had explained it the first time.
Your explanation is very clear.
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March 14, 2016, 10:01:21 PM |
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StinkyLover I challenge right now to a live video debate.
Put up or shut up.
Yes or no?
LOOL! You are a joker. Get lost. So readers now you know he shut up because he knows in a live video debate, his lies will be revealed. Whatever you say, baby doll. Keep those long posts coming. I'm still waiting for your contribution to the industry. Then we'll ALL see the truth (or lies). He's contributed a hell of a lot more than you have have afaict. Nick Szabo is also primarily a writer in this space, among others (including Vitalik BTW). That counts as contribution. What is yours? |
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March 14, 2016, 10:20:48 PM |
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StinkyLover I challenge right now to a live video debate.
Put up or shut up.
Yes or no?
LOOL! You are a joker. Get lost. So readers now you know he shut up because he knows in a live video debate, his lies will be revealed. Whatever you say, baby doll. Keep those long posts coming. I'm still waiting for your contribution to the industry. Then we'll ALL see the truth (or lies). lol. Stinky got owned. |
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March 14, 2016, 11:54:56 PM |
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StinkyLover I challenge right now to a live video debate.
Put up or shut up.
Yes or no?
LOOL! You are a joker. Get lost. So readers now you know he shut up because he knows in a live video debate, his lies will be revealed. Whatever you say, baby doll. Keep those long posts coming. I'm still waiting for your contribution to the industry. Then we'll ALL see the truth (or lies). He's contributed a hell of a lot more than you have have afaict. Nick Szabo is also primarily a writer in this space, among others (including Vitalik BTW). That counts as contribution. What is yours? He is not Nick Szabo, he is not Vitalik. His contribution is noise without output. I've been on this board too long to be impressed by it. So blockchain tech isn't perfect. When was it ever perfect? When was any tech ever perfect? His theories will not stop dapps being built and working exactly as the designers expect them to. So a fraud might be committed on the ETH blockchain. Tell that to MtGox and Cryptsy victims. Scams are recorded on all blockchains. Is this really news?? I'm a nobody, I don't claim to be anybody. You'll not be getting any industry enlightening contributions from plain 'ol StinkyLover me, but he 'claims' to be a somebody, a brilliant astute programmer who will come forth with a new Jerusalem (while trolling his way through the alts section). Do you vouch for him? I certainly don't. I've stated two things previously in other posts: 1. If he brings it, and it works, I'll publicly eat my words 2. He will NEVER bring it. He is all talk. I've seen it all before I stand by both of those statements |
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