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January 30, 2013, 12:41:20 PM
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While the US probably has killed more then Al Quaida and Iran, your infographic has many lies in it.  Iran attacked Iraq is the easiest but there are many others. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_War

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January 30, 2013, 01:25:25 PM
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Bitcoin has never full of virgins. It is mixed of evil and innocent people from the very beginning. So I will be feeling pretty good if a evil gov steps in.

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January 30, 2013, 01:34:35 PM
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The US government killed way more people than Al Qaida and Iran and many people use USD...

So true.  They even invaded Europe and killed thousands of germans in 1945.  







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January 30, 2013, 01:55:46 PM
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Will you continue to use HTTP or SMTP if a government or other evil organization joins in?
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January 30, 2013, 02:00:07 PM
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Will you continue to use HTTP or SMTP if a government or other evil organization joins in?

Are acting retard or that really your nature ?

Using Http and smtp, don't make http or smtp worth more or less. Using BTC make it worth more, because there is a limited amount of these.
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January 30, 2013, 02:30:41 PM
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Will you continue to use HTTP or SMTP if a government or other evil organization joins in?

Are acting retard or that really your nature ?

Using Http and smtp, don't make http or smtp worth more or less. Using BTC make it worth more, because there is a limited amount of these.

Will you continue to use gold if a government or other evil organization joins in?

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January 30, 2013, 03:21:40 PM
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People are using bitcoin and dollars right now for all kinds of things that I believe are evil and that I would never personally engage in.  It does not stop me from using bitcoins or dollars.  Of the two systems, I think the dollar is more easily exploitable for evil purposes.

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January 30, 2013, 03:27:43 PM
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Will you continue to use HTTP or SMTP if a government or other evil organization joins in?

Are acting retard or that really your nature ?

Using Http and smtp, don't make http or smtp worth more or less. Using BTC make it worth more, because there is a limited amount of these.
Are acting retard or that really your nature ?

If the whole world use Http and smtp then more investment are made for softwares that uses them and so on. So yes, using them make them more useful, since they are more supported. If no one use them, then why would someone make software for them?
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January 30, 2013, 03:34:01 PM
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My vote is bail out of the btc economy/community if some sort of data gathering/reporting is built into the protocol.
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January 30, 2013, 05:28:37 PM
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Let say that a country like Iran or Nk start using BTC to finance some of their activities or organization like "alqaida" ask ransom in BTC.

Will you continue to  support BT system or you will cash out and leave  ?

When any government starts using BTC, it is beginning of its end (govt's). Because BTC comparing to fiat is not inflatable by suits and comparing to gold, it is much harder to extract in order to replace with paper bills (what was done when we've been sliding off the gold - gold is just too heavy and expensive to store under mattress). Why is it bad for government to not have its own currency? Well, because you cannot shift huge amounts of productivity to whatever sector you want - roads, factories, military, space travel etc. You can only tax people. And this is alone limits government to such degree, that it cannot do anything seemingly "useful" for the voting population and will dissolve/collapse much quicker than you think.

Here are reasons for that:

1. Imagine you are a politician. Why would anybody vote for you? Only if you promise some vague benefits in form of "free" goodies. Of course, you'll have certain arrangements with the lobbyists, but on the surface you must provide something tangible for the voters. Or your career won't be sustainable. But how can you do that on taxation alone? If you raise all the taxes proportionally to your plan, then people will realize that the "free" stuff is a lie. If you raise taxes on the rich guys only, all of them will run away and your economy will suffer drastically (and this won't cover your costs anyway because you are not efficient producer). So inflation is what you need to magically borrow huge amounts of money from the future and spend today. But with BTC it's impossible and with fractional reserve banking on top of BTC it is also impossible because people will easily hoard and exchange in BTC.

2. Even if nobody is against taxes, taxes will not cover and sustain the costs. And since politicians are not professional producers themselves, their expenses will only grow over time, as amount of wasteful activities grows. So any governmental project will either collapse quickly before reaching any significant size, or govt will try to raise taxes to cover its costs. Raising taxes costs your place in the government. So even if government does not collapse, if it does any activity whatsoever, it will eat itself from within. And this will produce such an terrible smell as time goes by, that people will naturally refuse joining this club and there will be less and less voters to support any sort of activity proposed from the govt. Naturally, taxation and violent regulations will fade away over time.







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January 30, 2013, 05:35:46 PM
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Will you continue using Bitcoin if a evil governement/organisation start using Bitcoin to finance their activities
Yes    - 54 (91.5%)
No    - 1 (1.7%)
Maybe - 4 (6.8%)

Total Voters: 59

Just changed my vote to "No", because I don't know what a "governement" is, but it sounds scary.
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January 30, 2013, 06:50:51 PM
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Let say that a country like Iran or Nk start using BTC to finance some of their activities...
How do you know they aren't already?

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January 30, 2013, 07:17:45 PM
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You have to accept that bitcoin can be used for bad things as well as good. It comes with the territory, just like cash. Except in bitcoin's case its global and doesn't have any central meddling built in.

As far as governments adopting it, perhaps if they get sick of IMF and Central Bank loans shackling their country they may decide to try something else. Hard to say, they may be the last to attempt it, outside of global citizens.

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January 30, 2013, 07:31:37 PM
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i considered it, probably for weeks, after wikileaks started accepting bitcoins







... what's wrong with wikileaks.... since when did whistle blowing become evil?

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January 30, 2013, 07:44:38 PM
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The original post and question may very well be the most uninformed, brainwashed, and wrong piece I've seen this week on the forum.

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January 31, 2013, 12:06:52 AM
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The question is...how much would Bitcoin turn that evil government to good?

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January 31, 2013, 12:11:59 AM
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The question is...how much would Bitcoin turn that evil government to good?

Exactly.  You can not spend BTC you do not have. 

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January 31, 2013, 12:35:44 AM
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The question is...how much would Bitcoin turn that evil government to good?

Exactly.  You can not spend BTC you do not have. 

Makes it awful hard to fund bullshit wars and other bullshit violent stuff. 

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January 31, 2013, 02:05:09 AM
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This thread bothers me for some reason.

What if governments started using English? Forks? Potatoes? Gold? Education? Lemons? Guns? Tires? Algebra? The internet? TOR?

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