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March 16, 2016, 02:41:51 AM
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Satoshimine seems a bit rigged to me, seems when u go all in you always lose, anyone else agree ?
Also i don't believe in this so called "provably fair" proof nonesense. Why does it make it fair ?
I think we will never know only the site owner will. Any thoughts ?
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March 16, 2016, 02:45:49 AM
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Satoshimine seems a bit rigged to me, seems when u go all in you always lose, anyone else agree ?
Also i don't believe in this so called "provably fair" proof nonesense. Why does it make it fair ?
I think we will never know only the site owner will. Any thoughts ?

Provably fair simply means that you can check if you lost your money fairly or were cheated. Take notes of the hashes before the game, and after the game you can verify it. Might take a bit of research to figure out how it all works, but it's a great feeling. You will now have the power to know 100% if you were unlucky or cheated.

Check out gamblingsitefinder.com for a decent list/rankings of crypto casinos. Note: I have no affiliation or interest in it, and don't even agree with all the rankings ... but it's the only uncorrupted review site I'm aware of.
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March 16, 2016, 02:50:58 AM
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I think satoshiDice is one of the oldest gambling websites, they follow the provably fair logic and lotta people had lost loooooooooootta coins there (I'm one of them... lost ~6BTC in 2014)... but it's gabling, how could I cry? I lost, somebody won, and that's on...


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March 16, 2016, 03:10:02 AM
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Satoshimine seems a bit rigged to me, seems when u go all in you always lose, anyone else agree ?
Also i don't believe in this so called "provably fair" proof nonesense. Why does it make it fair ?
I think we will never know only the site owner will. Any thoughts ?

To add on to RHavar's explanation, if you want to go in-depth into the provably fair explanation, satoshi dice has a full explanation of their system here: https://www.satoshidice.com/provably-fair/
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March 16, 2016, 03:40:45 AM
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Check the provable fairness, it is their for that reason only but the thing is when you lose everything seems rigged, just don't gamble anymore than you can afford to lose.

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March 16, 2016, 06:27:20 AM
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Satoshimine seems a bit rigged to me, seems when u go all in you always lose, anyone else agree ?
Also i don't believe in this so called "provably fair" proof nonesense. Why does it make it fair ?
I think we will never know only the site owner will. Any thoughts ?

Well, provably fair is not nonsense. As it's name suggests, it's provably fair. So you can proof yourself that you lost/won fairly.
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March 16, 2016, 07:03:10 AM
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this site operates for a numbers of years now and I guess betting with it is your risk probably fair only means that you can always review what happen to your bet after losing it or after winning this one will let you check if bookmakers removed correct amount with your account. I think there is no fair with gambling, it is just your luck will say,.

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March 16, 2016, 07:03:40 AM
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they already take % off the weggered bets but i have the same unlucky like you always when i try to go all in i lose all Smiley but thats gambling ..

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March 16, 2016, 07:39:49 AM
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Personaly i dont think that they are fair so i dont play there, i would rather risk my coins at primedice then there but as you wish your coins your choice :3
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March 16, 2016, 01:45:53 PM
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I think satoshidice is not well managed, Support is rarely online and the website has allot of bugs, It's a big site but still annoying.
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March 16, 2016, 02:05:43 PM
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I think satoshidice is not well managed, Support is rarely online and the website has allot of bugs, It's a big site but still annoying.
That is not what we are discussing here.

Satoshidice is one of the oldest sites, and if it was not fair, it would have been proved by now. If you really think you are being cheated than check it yourself.
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March 16, 2016, 02:09:56 PM
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Satoshimine seems a bit rigged to me, seems when u go all in you always lose, anyone else agree ?
Also i don't believe in this so called "provably fair" proof nonesense. Why does it make it fair ?
I think we will never know only the site owner will. Any thoughts ?

Provably fair means that your bet is encrypted and no one can cheat you. Unless he have a time machine Wink
If gambling website is provably fair you can be sure that everything is legit.

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March 16, 2016, 02:27:31 PM
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Satoshimine seems a bit rigged to me, seems when u go all in you always lose, anyone else agree ?
Also i don't believe in this so called "provably fair" proof nonesense. Why does it make it fair ?
I think we will never know only the site owner will. Any thoughts ?

You're probably a butthurt gambler experiencing consecutive losses and looking for something to blame. There's a provably fair system that will prove everything's fair, obviously. Do a quick research how it works and you'll be enlightened.

Blame yourself for being greedy and unlucky. You're ridiculous Grin

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March 16, 2016, 10:06:23 PM
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Ok iv'e read everyone's opinions. I hear what you guys are saying but are you sure there is not a way to fake the provably fair ? And i'm not butthurt because i lost, i knew someone would say that. I don't think every site i lose on then it's rigged. Just that some sites seem very very suspiciously convenient at times. Too convenient....

I also know i'm one of many who feel this way. And yes i know it's been around for awhile and that its established.
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March 17, 2016, 02:12:42 AM
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Ok iv'e read everyone's opinions. I hear what you guys are saying but are you sure there is not a way to fake the provably fair ?

only if you verify it. They for instance could selectively be ripping people off. If you want to prove it was fair, you need to verify the games for yourself.

Check out gamblingsitefinder.com for a decent list/rankings of crypto casinos. Note: I have no affiliation or interest in it, and don't even agree with all the rankings ... but it's the only uncorrupted review site I'm aware of.
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March 17, 2016, 05:25:29 AM
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Ok iv'e read everyone's opinions. I hear what you guys are saying but are you sure there is not a way to fake the provably fair ?

only if you verify it. They for instance could selectively be ripping people off. If you want to prove it was fair, you need to verify the games for yourself.

They could also be using some elaborate system.

See this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=948965

999dice hid their non-provably fair system really well, it was so well done most if not all users didn't notice.

However, this is extremely rare as they have more to gain by staying then by running with user's money.



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I am a regular and old user of Satoshidice , Till now I have made only profits there , And I have never heard anybody saying Its a scam ,
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March 17, 2016, 07:12:56 AM
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Satoshimine seems a bit rigged to me, seems when u go all in you always lose, anyone else agree ?
Also i don't believe in this so called "provably fair" proof nonesense. Why does it make it fair ?
I think we will never know only the site owner will. Any thoughts ?

Satoshidice or Satoshimines?

AFAIK both don't share the same ownership.
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March 17, 2016, 09:49:26 PM
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Sorry guys i ment to say Satoshimines not Satoshidice. Sorry about that my mistake.
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March 17, 2016, 10:25:38 PM
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Satoshimine seems a bit rigged to me, seems when u go all in you always lose, anyone else agree ?
Also i don't believe in this so called "provably fair" proof nonesense. Why does it make it fair ?
I think we will never know only the site owner will. Any thoughts ?
Satoshi Mine is not rigged because you can verify the authenticity of your bets. It's just that you are choosing the wrong tile/area, or you are just unlucky. You should come up with proofs before making such claims.

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