[HELP] Gif avatar not acceptable ?

[JustDie]

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but when im upload GIF it wont showing anything ,, can someone tell me how to use GIF avatar ?

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[Lutpin]

Is it an animated gif?
Does the file meet all the other requirements?


I've just changed my avatar to (the same one but) a .gif file.
As you can see, there has been no problem (direct link).
So it's no forum problem, but has to be something with the gif you're trying.

[stiffbud]

Same problem as when I tried uploading a gif avatar before. It didn't also worked for me, it was uploaded but the gif is not moving.

[Lutpin]

Same problem as when I tried uploading a gif avatar before. It didn't also worked for me, it was uploaded but the gif is not moving.

Because AFAIK animated gifs aren't supported/allowed anymore. Those you see around have uploaded their animated avatar ages ago.
Static gifs however aren't a problem at all, as my avatar shows.


A quick forum search revealed the following:

Old account (i.e ~2-3 years old ) were allowed [animated] gif avatars.But now it is not allowed not any member rank but still some old accounts have their [animated] gif avatar as their account avatar and is pretty in demand as now it is not allowed and user find [animated] gif avatars more attractive so it does make sense.If you try to put up an [animated] gif avatar it will refuse up and ask you to put up a .png or .jpeg or any non-animated [gif] avatar.

[JustDie]

Same problem as when I tried uploading a gif avatar before. It didn't also worked for me, it was uploaded but the gif is not moving.

Because AFAIK animated gifs aren't supported/allowed anymore. Those you see around have uploaded their animated avatar ages ago.
Static gifs however aren't a problem at all, as my avatar shows.


A quick forum search revealed the following:

Old account (i.e ~2-3 years old ) were allowed [animated] gif avatars.But now it is not allowed not any member rank but still some old accounts have their [animated] gif avatar as their account avatar and is pretty in demand as now it is not allowed and user find [animated] gif avatars more attractive so it does make sense.If you try to put up an [animated] gif avatar it will refuse up and ask you to put up a .png or .jpeg or any non-animated [gif] avatar.

thanks for the details Lutpin!
But animated photo on thread still allowed ?

[Lutpin]

thanks for the details Lutpin! But animated photo on thread still allowed ?

Sure they are.

[actmyname]

Animated gifs could also be two frames of flashing images, which is a potential cause of seizures. That's not necessarily something that's good. I doubt that's the main reason for banning animated avatars, but that's one factor that could be involved in it. It could also just be annoying, most likely, to see a bunch of animations everywhere you go on the forum. I suspect that may be one of the reasons. (It would be fairly obnoxious to see a bunch of memes plastered on the left everywhere)

[stiffbud]

Same problem as when I tried uploading a gif avatar before. It didn't also worked for me, it was uploaded but the gif is not moving.

Because AFAIK animated gifs aren't supported/allowed anymore. Those you see around have uploaded their animated avatar ages ago.
Static gifs however aren't a problem at all, as my avatar shows.

I see. Well that sucks then. I always wanted to have a moving avatar in forums. It's kinda cool. Btw, what is a static gif? I don't see your avatar moving. 

[Lutpin]

Btw, what is a static gif? I don't see your avatar moving.

Well, first of all, a gif is only an image/file format, so not all gifs have to be animated (/moving).
There are static (not moving/animated) gifs, aswell as animated ones.
Since the latter are not supported anymore for new avatars, I ofc couldn't upload an animated one,
however, my avatar is a gif, as you can see here:
https://bitcointalk.org/useravatars/avatar_520313.gif

[PakistanHockeyfan]

Hm. I actually noticed some users with gif avatars so I do believe they're accepted. I think there's a specific gif size they take but other than that, I'm positive that gif images are accepted daily and can actually be quite fun to watch! I normally enjoy gif avatar's more than regular stagnant avatars either way. I do recommend speaking to a moderator of sorts if there indeed is a size limitation for gif avatars.

[shorena]

Hm. I actually noticed some users with gif avatars so I do believe they're accepted.

Animated gifs used to be allowed in the past. They are no longer. Those that have an animated gif as avatar now, have had it for a very long time.

[thesame12]

Hm. I actually noticed some users with gif avatars so I do believe they're accepted.

Animated gifs used to be allowed in the past. They are no longer. Those that have an animated gif as avatar now, have had it for a very long time.

What happened? Why aren't animated avatars allowed anymore?

[PakistanHockeyfan]

Hm. I actually noticed some users with gif avatars so I do believe they're accepted.

Animated gifs used to be allowed in the past. They are no longer. Those that have an animated gif as avatar now, have had it for a very long time.

Oh. It was my understanding that they were still being accepted. I'm sorry OP. Perhaps speaking to a moderator like I suggested is a good idea. It's not fair for them to have gif avatars and not the newcomers.

[PakistanHockeyfan]

Hm. I actually noticed some users with gif avatars so I do believe they're accepted.

Animated gifs used to be allowed in the past. They are no longer. Those that have an animated gif as avatar now, have had it for a very long time.

What happened? Why aren't animated avatars allowed anymore?

Hm. Actually, I think it has something to do with how much bits are occupied. For example, when you become a newbie on this site, you're not even allowed to post pictures. I think the head of the site mentioned they didn't want newcomers posting too many photos for that reason. But still at that logic, they would have made everyone stop occupying gif avatars....

I really am not quite certain on the matter of the situation here. Perhaps the head of the website isn't realizing there's still people occupying gif avatars for some reason.

[shorena]

Hm. I actually noticed some users with gif avatars so I do believe they're accepted.

Animated gifs used to be allowed in the past. They are no longer. Those that have an animated gif as avatar now, have had it for a very long time.

What happened? Why aren't animated avatars allowed anymore?

Hm. Actually, I think it has something to do with how much bits are occupied. For example, when you become a newbie on this site, you're not even allowed to post pictures. I think the head of the site mentioned they didn't want newcomers posting too many photos for that reason. But still at that logic, they would have made everyone stop occupying gif avatars....

I really am not quite certain on the matter of the situation here. Perhaps the head of the website isn't realizing there's still people occupying gif avatars for some reason.

#1 The admin is theymos
#2 all avatars had been disabled for security reasons
#3 I highly doubt the forum is running out of disk space. There are simpler solutions anyway, e.g. dont store all deleted posts ever created.
#4 Newbies are no longer allowed to post pictures because some used it to spam
#5 If you no longer want animated gifs, is it fair to remove the few already established over the years?

[PakistanHockeyfan]

Hm. I actually noticed some users with gif avatars so I do believe they're accepted.

Animated gifs used to be allowed in the past. They are no longer. Those that have an animated gif as avatar now, have had it for a very long time.

What happened? Why aren't animated avatars allowed anymore?

Hm. Actually, I think it has something to do with how much bits are occupied. For example, when you become a newbie on this site, you're not even allowed to post pictures. I think the head of the site mentioned they didn't want newcomers posting too many photos for that reason. But still at that logic, they would have made everyone stop occupying gif avatars....

I really am not quite certain on the matter of the situation here. Perhaps the head of the website isn't realizing there's still people occupying gif avatars for some reason.

#1 The admin is theymos
#2 all avatars had been disabled for security reasons
#3 I highly doubt the forum is running out of disk space. There are simpler solutions anyway, e.g. dont store all deleted posts ever created.
#4 Newbies are no longer allowed to post pictures because some used it to spam
#5 If you no longer want animated gifs, is it fair to remove the few already established over the years?

My point that I'm attempting to convey is that there still are people with gif avatars. That's why in my mind I genuinely believed having a gif avatar was acceptable. For somebody to say they're having trouble uploading one makes me believe either they have to be a certain rank, or perhaps the gif size is much too large. Either that, or the head doesn't know gif avatars still exist. I see them all the time. That must simply mean the head isn't aware. If newcomers cannot use gifs as avatars, veterans can't either because it's simply just not fair.


So yes, it definitely has to do with the size of the gif, or maybe the ranking. Hopefully the admin will come and answer our questions.

[AgentofCoin]

Hm. I actually noticed some users with gif avatars so I do believe they're accepted.

Animated gifs used to be allowed in the past. They are no longer. Those that have an animated gif as avatar now, have had it for a very long time.

What happened? Why aren't animated avatars allowed anymore?

Hm. Actually, I think it has something to do with how much bits are occupied. For example, when you become a newbie on this site, you're not even allowed to post pictures. I think the head of the site mentioned they didn't want newcomers posting too many photos for that reason. But still at that logic, they would have made everyone stop occupying gif avatars....

I really am not quite certain on the matter of the situation here. Perhaps the head of the website isn't realizing there's still people occupying gif avatars for some reason.

#1 The admin is theymos
#2 all avatars had been disabled for security reasons
#3 I highly doubt the forum is running out of disk space. There are simpler solutions anyway, e.g. dont store all deleted posts ever created.
#4 Newbies are no longer allowed to post pictures because some used it to spam
#5 If you no longer want animated gifs, is it fair to remove the few already established over the years?

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So yes, it definitely has to do with the size of the gif, or maybe the ranking. Hopefully the admin will come and answer our questions.

Very simply. Animated GIFs for Avatars that exist today are left over from when they were once allowed.
At one time in the past, everyone could have animated gifs for avatars , until it was discovered to be used as an hacking attack vector.
Because of that gif attack, all animated gifs for accounts have been disabled.

Any animated gifs on avatars you see today are the originals, prior to when Theymos disabled the ability.
If you now remove your animated gif on your account, you can not get it back and will be like everyone else.

It has nothing to do with size of the gif data or ranking of the account.
Shorena is correct.


Edit: added "for Avatars" to be more clear between animated gif pictures and animated gif for avatars

[PakistanHockeyfan]

Hm. I actually noticed some users with gif avatars so I do believe they're accepted.

Animated gifs used to be allowed in the past. They are no longer. Those that have an animated gif as avatar now, have had it for a very long time.

What happened? Why aren't animated avatars allowed anymore?

Hm. Actually, I think it has something to do with how much bits are occupied. For example, when you become a newbie on this site, you're not even allowed to post pictures. I think the head of the site mentioned they didn't want newcomers posting too many photos for that reason. But still at that logic, they would have made everyone stop occupying gif avatars....

I really am not quite certain on the matter of the situation here. Perhaps the head of the website isn't realizing there's still people occupying gif avatars for some reason.

#1 The admin is theymos
#2 all avatars had been disabled for security reasons
#3 I highly doubt the forum is running out of disk space. There are simpler solutions anyway, e.g. dont store all deleted posts ever created.
#4 Newbies are no longer allowed to post pictures because some used it to spam
#5 If you no longer want animated gifs, is it fair to remove the few already established over the years?

...
So yes, it definitely has to do with the size of the gif, or maybe the ranking. Hopefully the admin will come and answer our questions.

Very simply. Animated GIFs for Avatars that exist today are left over from when they were once allowed.
At one time in the past, everyone could have animated gifs for avatars , until it was discovered to be used as an hacking attack vector.
Because of that gif attack, all animated gifs for accounts have been disabled.

Any animated gifs on avatars you see today are the originals, prior to when Theymos disabled the ability.
If you now remove your animated gif on your account, you can not get it back and will be like everyone else.

It has nothing to do with size of the gif data or ranking of the account.
Shorena is correct.


Edit: added "for Avatars" to be more clear between animated gif pictures and animated gif for avatars

If that's true, then why isn't the admin making sure those people with gif avatars don't pose for hacking attack vectors? Perhaps those users don't know this. It's quite clear the admin never made some sort of announcement if it's just not understandable to the OP. Or myself. Forgive me. I'm just somewhat confused.

[AgentofCoin]

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#1 The admin is theymos
#2 all avatars had been disabled for security reasons
#3 I highly doubt the forum is running out of disk space. There are simpler solutions anyway, e.g. dont store all deleted posts ever created.
#4 Newbies are no longer allowed to post pictures because some used it to spam
#5 If you no longer want animated gifs, is it fair to remove the few already established over the years?

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So yes, it definitely has to do with the size of the gif, or maybe the ranking. Hopefully the admin will come and answer our questions.

Very simply. Animated GIFs for Avatars that exist today are left over from when they were once allowed.
At one time in the past, everyone could have animated gifs for avatars , until it was discovered to be used as an hacking attack vector.
Because of that gif attack, all animated gifs for accounts have been disabled.

Any animated gifs on avatars you see today are the originals, prior to when Theymos disabled the ability.
If you now remove your animated gif on your account, you can not get it back and will be like everyone else.

It has nothing to do with size of the gif data or ranking of the account.
Shorena is correct.


Edit: added "for Avatars" to be more clear between animated gif pictures and animated gif for avatars

If that's true, then why isn't the admin making sure those people with gif avatars don't pose for hacking attack vectors? Perhaps those users don't know this. It's quite clear the admin never made some sort of announcement if it's just not understandable to the OP. Or myself. Forgive me. I'm just somewhat confused.

I believe, because the attack vector arose from the ability to change and upload new animated gifs for avatars.
The few accounts today that still have animated gifs for avatars do not pose any threat.
The issues has to do with uploading malicious code into the site. Any animated gifs that remain are safe.

The attack that caused the disabling of the ability to have animated avatars was in October 2013.
That is why the OP and other users are not aware of this. It is actually an old issue.

[PakistanHockeyfan]

I believe, because the attack vector arose from the ability to change and upload new animated gifs for avatars.
The few accounts today that still have animated gifs for avatars do not pose any threat.
The issues has to do with uploading malicious code into the site. Any animated gifs that remain are safe.

The attack that caused the disabling of the ability to have animated avatars was in October 2013.
That is why the OP and other users are not aware of this. It is actually an old issue.

Oh..

Well alright. I was unaware of this. Thank you for taking the time to sit down and explain it though. I do believe you, but is there a thread I can read for this attack? Just trying to get more acquainted to the website's history. This way I won't have to ask too many novice questions.