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February 22, 2013, 10:59:45 PM
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Show me a link to one peer reviewed study on the efficacy of Colloidal Silver (which is not debunking it).  It's as useless as homeopathy.
Hmm, let's see how most reviews from medical doctors start:
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Colloidal silver isn't considered safe or effective for any of the health claims manufacturers make. Silver has no known purpose in the body. Nor is it an essential mineral, as some sellers of silver products claim.

Did you believe Clinton's Surgeon General Donna Shalala, when he marched out that little orc and she

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stood with Attorney General Janet Reno and Drug "Czar" Barry McCaffrey threatening to revoke doctors' licences for recommending medical marijuana (a successful civil challenge later backed the government off.)   "Marijuana is illegal, dangerous, unhealthy and wrong," Shalala said. "It's a one-way ticket to dead-end hopes and dreams."

Modern medical doctors use silver all the time.  Before antibiotics, physicians used it even more frequently and extensively.

Let's consult the Wiki to continue your education.

First, please familiarize yourself with the oligodynamic effiect.  This will be important later, so pay attention!

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The oligodynamic effect (Greek: oligos = few, Greek: dynamis = force) was discovered in 1893 by the Swiss Karl Wilhelm von Nägeli as a toxic effect of metal ions on living cells, algae, molds, spores, fungi, viruses, prokaryotic and eukaryotic microorganisms, even in relatively low concentrations.

Data from silver suggest that these ions denature enzymes of the target cell or organism by binding to reactive groups, resulting in their precipitation and inactivation.

Silver inactivates enzymes by reacting with the thiol groups to form silver sulfides. Silver also reacts with the amino-, carboxyl-, phosphate-, and imidazole-groups and diminish the activities of lactate dehydrogenase and glutathione peroxidase.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oligodynamic_effect

Got it?  Good, now let's move on and apply your new learning to medicine.

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Silver and silver nanoparticles are used as an antimicrobial in a variety of industrial, healthcare and domestic applications.

Colloidal silver was used by physicians in the early 20th century, but its use was largely discontinued in the 1940s following the development of safer and more effective modern antibiotics.

Hippocrates in his writings discussed the use of silver in wound care.  At the beginning of the twentieth century surgeons routinely used silver sutures to reduce the risk of infection. In the early 20th century, physicians used silver-containing eyedrops to treat ophthalmic problems, for various infections, and sometimes internally for diseases such as tropical sprue, epilepsy, gonorrhea, and the common cold.

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Since about 1990, there has been a resurgence of the promotion of the ingestion of purchased or homemade[11] colloidal silver as a dietary supplement or homeopathic remedy, marketed with claims of it being an essential mineral supplement, or that it can prevent or treat numerous diseases, such as cancer, diabetes, HIV/AIDS, herpes,[9] and tuberculosis.[11][42][43] No medical evidence supports the ingestion of colloidal silver as being effective for any of these claimed indications.[8][11][44] Silver is not an essential mineral in humans; there is no dietary requirement for silver, and no such thing as a silver "deficiency".[11] Quackwatch characterizes colloidal silver as "risk without benefit".[45] Consumer Reports lists colloidal silver as a "supplement to avoid", describing it as "likely unsafe".[46]

There is no evidence that colloidal silver treats or prevents any medical condition, and it can cause serious and potentially irreversible side effects such as argyria.[11] In August 1999, the U.S. FDA banned colloidal silver sellers from claiming any therapeutic or preventive value for the product,[8] although silver-containing products continue to be promoted as dietary supplement in the U.S. under the looser regulatory standards applied to supplements.[8] The FDA has issued numerous Warning Letters to Internet sites that have continued to promote colloidal silver as an antibiotic or for other medical purposes.[47][48]

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February 23, 2013, 01:30:46 AM
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I remember reading somewhere your body never processes the silver out and continued use turns your skin blue. This stuff even legal to sell?

This stuff is perfectly legal to sell (hint: teh google is your friend).
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Hint: This stuff is only legal to sell (in the US in opposition to every other civilized country in the world), because (in the US in opposition to every other civilized country in the world) registration agencies do everything the wrong way around. You don't have to prove your snake oil is safe, the FDA has to prove your snake oil is unsafe. Which is why (in the US in opposition to every other civilized country in the world) thousands of people die every year because snake oil sellers like you can only be stopped (in the US in opposition to every other civilized country in the world) after it has been conclusively proved it was your snake oil that killed them. You people are a blight upon humanity and should be forced to ingest your own product preferably before you procreate so we can finally can get rid of your specific contamination of the gene pool.
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What makes the FDA better than the FED?
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February 23, 2013, 01:44:53 AM
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colloidal silver is good for you

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What makes the FDA better than the FED?

The FED only tricks 98% of the sheeple into believing it's necessary to keep them safe from the big bad evil scary greedy free market.

The FDA fools 99% of them.  As demonstrated above.


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February 23, 2013, 01:59:04 AM
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Hint: This stuff is only legal to sell (in the US in opposition to every other civilized country in the world), because (in the US in opposition to every other civilized country in the world) registration agencies do everything the wrong way around. You don't have to prove your snake oil is safe, the FDA has to prove your snake oil is unsafe. Which is why (in the US in opposition to every other civilized country in the world) thousands of people die every year because snake oil sellers like you can only be stopped (in the US in opposition to every other civilized country in the world) after it has been conclusively proved it was your snake oil that killed them. You people are a blight upon humanity and should be forced to ingest your own product preferably before you procreate so we can finally can get rid of your specific contamination of the gene pool.

OK we get it.  You hate free markets and consumer choice.  You wish the burden of proof to be on the accused and somehow think it possible for them to prove a negative.

You love socialist hellholes, resent the freedoms unique and liberties exclusive to the USA, and confuse coercion with civilization.

I bet you also agree with the FedGov that medical cannabis has no medical value.  "Baa-baa" sayeth the wooly sheeple.   Roll Eyes

How many people have died from colloidal silver?  Zero.  How many have died from things they could have cheaply and easily treated with colloidal silver?  More than zero.

BTW I do ingest my own product, and TYVM for wishing death upon me.  Such remarks speak volumes about your own poor, unsavory character.

"Blight upon humanity?"  Wow.  Drama much?   Cheesy


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There is no evidence that colloidal silver treats or prevents any medical condition, and it can cause serious and potentially irreversible side effects such as argyria.[11] In August 1999, the U.S. FDA banned colloidal silver sellers from claiming any therapeutic or preventive value for the product,[8] although silver-containing products continue to be promoted as dietary supplement in the U.S. under the looser regulatory standards applied to supplements.[8] The FDA has issued numerous Warning Letters to Internet sites that have continued to promote colloidal silver as an antibiotic or for other medical purposes.[47][48]

Oh my, aren't you a big fan of the fallacious Argument From Authority?   Wink

Taking medical advice from the FDA is like

1) taking financial advice from the SEC
2) taking fiscal advice from the Treasury
3) taking economic advice from the Fed

The government lies!  All the time!  Right to our stupid faces!

Remember this chestnut?

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Doctors Given Federal Threat On Marijuana
http://www.nytimes.com/1996/12/31/us/doctors-given-federal-threat-on-marijuana.html

The Clinton Administration said today that doctors in California and Arizona who prescribe drugs like marijuana that are illegal under Federal law could lose their prescription-writing privileges and even face criminal charges.

Voters in those two states approved propositions in November that relax restrictions on the medical use of some illegal drugs. But the Federal Government, uneasy with the measures, has been developing a strategy to counter them.

''These propositions are not about compassion, they are about legalizing dangerous drugs,'' Gen. Barry R. McCaffrey, retired, Director of the Administration's Office of National Drug Control Policy, said at a news conference today. ''These two propositions simply do not affect Federal law.''

Supporters of the Arizona and California measures have pointed to some research suggesting that marijuana may be useful for relieving internal eye pressure in glaucoma, for controlling nausea in cancer patients on chemotherapy, and for combating severe weight loss associated with AIDS and the human immunodeficiency virus.

Yet several organizations of experts say that there is no proved medical use for marijuana and that in any case better drugs exist to treat nausea, the effects of glaucoma and H.I.V.-related ''wasting.''

That was a point underscored at the news conference today by General McCaffrey, Attorney General Janet Reno and Donna E. Shalala, the Secretary of Health and Human Services.

''All available research,'' Secretary Shalala said, ''has concluded that marijuana is dangerous to our health. Marijuana harms the brain, heart, lungs and immune system.''

Did you believe Shalala too?  Tsk-tsk!  You should know better.   Undecided


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Hint: This stuff is only legal to sell (in the US in opposition to every other civilized country in the world), because (in the US in opposition to every other civilized country in the world) registration agencies do everything the wrong way around. You don't have to prove your snake oil is safe, the FDA has to prove your snake oil is unsafe. Which is why (in the US in opposition to every other civilized country in the world) thousands of people die every year because snake oil sellers like you can only be stopped (in the US in opposition to every other civilized country in the world) after it has been conclusively proved it was your snake oil that killed them. You people are a blight upon humanity and should be forced to ingest your own product preferably before you procreate so we can finally can get rid of your specific contamination of the gene pool.

OK we get it.  You hate free markets and consumer choice.  You wish the burden of proof to be on the accused and somehow think it possible for them to prove a negative.

You love socialist hellholes, resent the freedoms unique and liberties exclusive to the USA, and confuse coercion with civilization.

I bet you also agree with the FedGov that medical cannabis has no medical value.  "Baa-baa" sayeth the wooly sheeple.   Roll Eyes

How many people have died from colloidal silver?  Zero.  How many have died from things they could have cheaply and easily treated with colloidal silver?  More than zero.

BTW I do ingest my own product, and TYVM for wishing death upon me.  Such remarks speak volumes about your own poor, unsavory character.

"Blight upon humanity?"  Wow.  Drama much?   Cheesy


No. I have a medical background in contrast to you and yes, I am utterly convinced killing off your particular genetic aberration is a boon to humanity more powerful than the renaissance was.
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"Blight upon humanity?"  Wow.  Drama much?   Cheesy

No. I have a medical background in contrast to you and yes, I am utterly convinced killing off your particular genetic aberration is a boon to humanity more powerful than the renaissance was.

Yes.  You do drama much!

Please, be even more over the top with your violent, unpleasant eugenic fantasies of culling those you deem unfit.  It's great entertainment!   Cheesy

If you really had a medical background you wouldn't presume to scoff at the wisdom of Hippocrates, or the indisputable fact of the oligodynamic effect.

In contrast to you, I have background in hard science and thus respect the value of keeping an open mind.

And I suppose you are completely ignorant of this bit of history too:

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The silver protein molecule is Argyrol in use for over 100 years to date, ample in clinical data support of the benefits and versatility of the silver protein molecule in medicine without detriment of drug resistance.

Niched in opthalamics, Argyrol dominated topical antimicrobials for the first half of the 20th century. With the enormous profits from the sale of the drug for a wide range of indications in human and veterinary medicine.

Argyrol is an over-the-counter internationally recognized anti-infective, drug regulatory compliant immediate to manufacture and distribution in every jurisdiction for antiseptic use in medicine specifically due to global drug regulatory administrative adjudication initiated by FDA in the United States to mandate New Drug Applications for silver drugs.  Argyrol is found continuously in commerce in medicine since the date of Argyrol inception by Barnes and Hille.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argyrol

Now go on and tell us why you think the FDA should be allowed to force supplement providers to prove their innocence, on pain of state violence.  Such a good little bootlicker!   Wink


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Now go on and tell us why you think the FDA should be allowed to force supplement providers to prove their innocence, on pain of state violence.  Such a good little bootlicker!   Wink
this is not how science works. you are the one making the extraordinary claim, not us. it is your claim that goes against our current understanding of medicine. the onus is on you to provide evidence to back your hypothesis. just because FDA is the government does not automatically make their position false.

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Huh? What do you do with it?

Colloidal silver kills the entire spectrum of pathogens.  So it has a million and one uses. 

Here's a personal anecdote:

Last night I was getting a sore throat.  Gargled with it.  Instant relief.

I'm sure you can think of other applications tailored to your personal biology. 

Or just keep some around, in case of Swine/Bird/Zombie Flu plague epidemics.   Wink


You forgot it also can turn your skin permanently blue.  You too can be a smurf!

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You forgot it also can turn your skin permanently blue.  You too can be a smurf!


Water is toxic if taken in large amounts. Smiley Used in the right amounts, colloidal silver is one of the best anti-biotics there is.
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this is not how science works. you are the one making the extraordinary claim, not us. it is your claim that goes against our current understanding of medicine. the onus is on you to provide evidence to back your hypothesis. just because FDA is the government does not automatically make their position false.

Please elaborate on exactly what "extraordinary claims" I've made, and I'll be glad to back them up.   Smiley

FYI, the oligodynamic effect is not an extraordinary claim, it is established science.   Cool

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Please elaborate on exactly what "extraordinary claims" I've made, and I'll be glad to back them up.   Smiley
your claims goes against the following:
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=1999_register&docid=fr17au99-6.pdf
http://nccam.nih.gov/health/silver
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8632503
http://dx.doi.org/10.1053%2Fajem.2001.25773

please provide evidence with reputability greater than, or equal to the sources given above. please note "mainstream medicine is ruled by big pharma suppressing the true knowledge" is not a substitute for lack of reputable evidence.

FYI, the oligodynamic effect is not an extraordinary claim, it is established science.   Cool
according to your logic: since soap kills bacteria and viruses, you should drink soap to kill bacteria in your body. similar logic can be applied to any number of toxic substances.

in addition, all of silver's proven use in medication involves topical application, and no ingestion.

Hippocrates in his writings discussed the use of silver in wound care.  At the beginning of the twentieth century surgeons routinely used silver sutures to reduce the risk of infection. In the early 20th century, physicians used silver-containing eyedrops to treat ophthalmic problems, for various infections, and sometimes internally for diseases such as tropical sprue, epilepsy, gonorrhea, and the common cold.
and guess what? snake oil was also widely used in the 19th and 20th century.

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Sorry, but this image is pure bullshit. Neither silver nor DNA are magnetic, and even if they were the "magnetic binding" would undo itself once the virus particle got away from the silver particle. Secondly, human DNA and viral DNA are in most senses the same, so anything that would affect the viral DNA would probably also affect your DNA - although to be fair, human cells are much larger than viruses so because of the distance the magnetic effect on the viral DNA would probably be larger than on the human DNA, but the problem with that reasoning is that it presumes that such an effect exists in the first place.

Now, if you wish to claim an oligodynamic effect you should know that viruses are relatively insensitive to such effects, because they have very little in the way of enzymes. Virus particles are pretty much boxes of blueprints that are delivered to the host cells, and then the host cells manufacture enzymes and whatever else they need according to the specifications.
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We all know this is bullshit! OP has never heard of placebo before!

Let me go garble some of my gold, instant relief to making me feel more rich!


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