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March 17, 2016, 12:14:47 AM
Last edit: March 26, 2016, 04:04:34 AM by justbtcme
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Steven Steiner has failed to honor our many agreements, goes back on his words casually and is currently attempting to extort me for money. I will expose him based on his own words. Below is a summary of that,


2015-3-5
Made a bet with BayAreaCoins on the mayweather vs pacquiao fight to which I lost. Payment was arranged and we were still on friendly terms and regular communications was made, with some complications before all was settled.

Look man, im tired of your lies. At least state the truth. I sent you the coins and told you to check with the creator if they were funded or not and I agree that whatever losses came up I will cover it. I didnt trick you into doing shit, you just went ahead and post up that auction.

I'm been in contact with you all this time and tried to repay back as best as i could and now you are calling me a scammer and then after acccepting my dogecoins you dont want to send it back to me but instead still call me a scammer and say i owe you 1000 dollars still wtf? (...)
I want my dogecoins return to me.

I have clear reason to believe that you knew those DOGE you were sending me where "bunk".  I would have never agreed to manually checking 21 stupid DOGE for $1.80 loaded per coin. (...)

You even commented on the thread about how good looking they were.  Roll Eyes

I will remove the negative feedback once I have collected the $1000 you skipped town on.

I will not be sending the DOGE back unless this $1000 is satisfied.  I'm trying to sell the DOGE as agreed in order to offset a bit of that $1000.  This was as agreed sending them.

(...)

2015-12-21
After numerous payments to BayAreaCoins we agreed to settle the dispute, he took his negative off and wrote a neutral feedback stating that he "wrote off the debt". We agreed the issue was settled. Still on friendly terms and regular communications was made.


Yo?

I was thinking about your'snailsinthemail business, what's up with that ?


Still shipping using the X girlfriend! Sold like $500-$1000 of snails last week rofl

I like your snail business, u feel like selling it?

Ya I'd sell the domain and the business if you were interested.  It got published in a teacher magazine and had a few big months.

If you were actually interested in it I'd for sure think on it.  I think I'm about to move back to Cali soon though.


BAC


Notice there was no mention of any debt, scams, or any sense of bad blood between us. You will not find a single instance of him calling me out on anything until a year later and after the fact that we had settle our issue completely.

2016-3-13
Almost a year later I PMed him about buying bitcoins with PayPal and his reply was this,


Still nothing mention about any debts.

I then open a thread to buy .25 in BTC to which lies and false accusations were thrown around.


2016-3-13
Another neutral feedback left by BayAreaCoins stating,
"I would definitely not take PayPal from this user"

Oh really?


I PMed him asking why he's calling me out on my thread to buy BTC with PayPal, he replied,


No hard feelings, but I don't think accepting Paypal from you would be wise.


Again, no mention of any debt, scam, or active issue between us.

Asked why he didn't bring this up before, left neg feedback for me or open a scam accusation after all this time (almost a year!!!) his reply was:


I did have negative rep for this user until we settled the debt (not in full(this is a lie).)  I wrote it off at the end of 2015 as indicated because I don't like how hard my negative shit hits.  He's just a degenerate gambler and I think my feedback left represents that.

He's a good physical coin trader and I didn't want to take that away from him.

Perhaps one day he settles shit out with me, but he isn't obligated due to negative rep threat.

Truth is that we settled our issue COMPLETELY long ago. He continues to bash me in public so I left him neutral feedback and called him out on his lies and so the escalation begins,


I show you mercy and you leave me shitty feedback. I should fuck you up you chink fuck.

This racist proceeded to carry out his threats, leaving me bullshit feedback and throwing out baseless accusations. Clearly is abusing the trust system.

Goes on to make the ridiculous claim that I sent him physical dogecoins knowing that some were unfunded. I had in fact told him to check with the creator before selling which he denied but made contradictory statements,

Here

"I would have never agreed to manually checking 21 stupid DOGE for $1.80 loaded per coin."
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1398871.msg14213130#msg14213130

Here

"O ya I said why would I agree to waste my time agreeing checking physical DOGE with 50 cents worth of coins on them."
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1396534.msg14181189#msg14181189

And here during the auction,


I really don't know how many aren't funded and I'd really not spend hours confirming $1.8 usd on each stupid coin..

Did I warn him about checking the funds first before selling or did he just not feel like wasting his time over some "stupid coin", you decide.


2016-4-13
And finally a negative feedback,

"I tried to be nice with this fucking loser fuck after he stiffed me on a $1000 bet (see neutral feedback bellow). I warned users about accepting PayPal from him and he goes off the deep end. Sending me PM after PM, making bullshit remarks in public threads and then finally leaving me untruthful feedback."
 
Climax and conclusion of this tale, "justbtcme ripping off charity for children"
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1398871.0
Did the drugs finally kick in?

Previous history of leaving false negative, then attempted to cover up his lies

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1095023.msg11673457#msg11673457

Promoted a Ponzi scam
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1026785.msg11110141#msg11110141


This type of behavior and history of lies and deception in my opinion is deserving of a scam thread and justifies my negative feedback for this shifty weasel.
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March 23, 2016, 11:15:42 PM
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This idiot didn't pay a $1000 bet on a boxing match and now he's upset.   Roll Eyes

Please feel free to see the references I've posted on his trust as well as the one bellow.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1398871.0

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March 25, 2016, 12:14:40 PM
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This idiot didn't pay a $1000 bet on a boxing match and now he's upset.   Roll Eyes

Please feel free to see the references I've posted on his trust as well as the one bellow.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1398871.0
I only know what I have read here but I would say that your an incredibly nice guy to write off that debt in the first place. $1000 is a heap of money, like 2-3 weeks wages for me.
Want to make a bet, lol. Just kidding.

I really cant see his problem here anyway.

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March 26, 2016, 02:37:47 AM
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This idiot didn't pay a $1000 bet on a boxing match and now he's upset.   Roll Eyes

Please feel free to see the references I've posted on his trust as well as the one bellow.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1398871.0
I only know what I have read here but I would say that your an incredibly nice guy to write off that debt in the first place. $1000 is a heap of money, like 2-3 weeks wages for me.
Want to make a bet, lol. Just kidding.

I really cant see his problem here anyway.

I will bet you 1000 dollars that BayAreaCoins is full of shit.
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March 26, 2016, 02:43:27 AM
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This idiot didn't pay a $1000 bet on a boxing match and now he's upset.   Roll Eyes

Please feel free to see the references I've posted on his trust as well as the one bellow.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1398871.0
I only know what I have read here but I would say that your an incredibly nice guy to write off that debt in the first place. $1000 is a heap of money, like 2-3 weeks wages for me.
Want to make a bet, lol. Just kidding.

I really cant see his problem here anyway.

I will bet you 1000 dollars that BayAreaCoins is full of shit.

I bet you would  Roll Eyes.

JustBtcMe will bet you whatever you want as long as you don't use escrow... don't plan on getting paid if he losses.  Roll Eyes.

Want to make a bet, lol. Just kidding.

Har har Tongue

I really cant see his problem here anyway.

His problem is he won't pay his debts.  He tries to weasel out of it six ways from Sunday.  The latest offer was that if I removed my negative feedback... he'd give me his signature earnings (roughly .2 BTC per month) until the debt was paid.  He's just a cheap fuck who doesn't want to pay his gambling debts out of pocket.

PM from him:

I'm ready to make a deal with you.

My signature space, if I can sign up for a good campaign like fortunejack or this one,

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1333794.0

Will make around .2 a month and can go directly to you.

Or if you want, use my signature space for your snail business or anything you like (most things), this account is just going to waste at the moment.

I'll leave it on as long as it take to get this whole thing over with. What do you think?



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March 26, 2016, 02:48:40 AM
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This idiot didn't pay a $1000 bet on a boxing match and now he's upset.   Roll Eyes

Please feel free to see the references I've posted on his trust as well as the one bellow.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1398871.0
I only know what I have read here but I would say that your an incredibly nice guy to write off that debt in the first place. $1000 is a heap of money, like 2-3 weeks wages for me.
Want to make a bet, lol. Just kidding.

I really cant see his problem here anyway.

I will bet you 1000 dollars that BayAreaCoins is full of shit.

I bet you would  Roll Eyes.

JustBtcMe will bet you whatever you want as long as you don't use escrow... don't plan on getting paid if he losses.  Roll Eyes.



Stop with your bullshit I've paid you plenty of times during our degen clam moments without escrow. Your just mad because you were doing more paying than I was. Don't blame me for your shitty karma induced luck.
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March 26, 2016, 02:51:51 AM
Last edit: May 05, 2017, 03:45:09 AM by BayAreaCoins
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Stop with your bullshit I've paid you plenty of times during our degen clam moments without escrow. Your just mad because you were doing more paying than I was. Don't blame me for your shitty karma induced luck.

If I lose a bet... I pay. I don't get mad about gambling losses.

My shitty karma induce losses... lol!  I won the boxing bet scrub.

Want to double or nothing your money using escrow?

$790x2= what you would put in escrow.

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March 26, 2016, 02:53:21 AM
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Stop with your bullshit I've paid you plenty of times during our degen clam moments without escrow. Your just mad because you were doing more paying than I was. Don't blame me for your shitty karma induced luck.

If I lose a bet... I pay. I don't get made about gambling losses.

My shitty karma induce losses... lol!  I won the boxing bet scrub.

Want to double or nothing your money using escrow?

Send me back my dogecoins you scamming Internet thief
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March 26, 2016, 02:55:01 AM
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Stop with your bullshit I've paid you plenty of times during our degen clam moments without escrow. Your just mad because you were doing more paying than I was. Don't blame me for your shitty karma induced luck.

If I lose a bet... I pay. I don't get made about gambling losses.

My shitty karma induce losses... lol!  I won the boxing bet scrub.

Want to double or nothing your money using escrow?

Send me back my dogecoins you scamming Internet thief

Your Dogecoins that you tried to pass off mixed in bunk coins on me were sold at auctions with the proceeds donated to Arkansas Children Hospital and the money raised was deducted from your $1,000 gambling debt.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1121918.msg11874713#msg11874713

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March 26, 2016, 02:57:20 AM
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Stop with your bullshit I've paid you plenty of times during our degen clam moments without escrow. Your just mad because you were doing more paying than I was. Don't blame me for your shitty karma induced luck.

If I lose a bet... I pay. I don't get made about gambling losses.

My shitty karma induce losses... lol!  I won the boxing bet scrub.

Want to double or nothing your money using escrow?

$790x2= what you would put in escrow.


It's amazing your still in the betting mood with me. I like that. Noted.
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March 26, 2016, 02:59:35 AM
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Stop with your bullshit I've paid you plenty of times during our degen clam moments without escrow. Your just mad because you were doing more paying than I was. Don't blame me for your shitty karma induced luck.

If I lose a bet... I pay. I don't get made about gambling losses.

My shitty karma induce losses... lol!  I won the boxing bet scrub.

Want to double or nothing your money using escrow?

$790x2= what you would put in escrow.

It's amazing your still in the betting mood with me. I like that. Noted.

You will have to escrow the $790x2 on our bet.

If you win the $790 owed is gone... if I win then I take the $1580.

We are both gamblers  Cool

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March 26, 2016, 03:07:11 AM
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It's amazing your still in the betting mood with me. I like that. Noted.

Big bank takes little bank.

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March 26, 2016, 03:08:57 AM
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It's amazing your still in the betting mood with me. I like that. Noted.

Big bank takes little bank.

My spidey senses are tickling. But really, as a former friend, I highly suggest you seek some intervention for your drug and gambling addictions. You used to be cool bro.
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March 26, 2016, 03:13:54 AM
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It's amazing your still in the betting mood with me. I like that. Noted.

Big bank takes little bank.

My spidey senses are tickling. But really, as a former friend, I highly suggest you seek some intervention for your drug and gambling addictions. You used to be cool bro.

Kill yourself fuck face.

I don't even smoke pot anymore and I never gamble with funds I can't afford to lose.  Roll Eyes

When I lose I bet I pay up instantly... made $5,000 appear basically over night for a Just-Dice streak bet.

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March 26, 2016, 03:16:28 AM
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It's amazing your still in the betting mood with me. I like that. Noted.

Big bank takes little bank.

My spidey senses are tickling. But really, as a former friend, I highly suggest you seek some intervention for your drug and gambling addictions. You used to be cool bro.

Kill yourself fuck face.

I don't even smoke pot anymore and I never gamble with funds I can't afford to lose.  Roll Eyes

When I lose I bet I pay up instantly... made $5,000 appear over night for a Just-Dice streak bet.

Congratulations, really, I am proud of you. Not all of us can lie and buy our ways to the top.
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March 26, 2016, 03:20:20 AM
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Congratulations, really, I am proud of you. Not all of us can lie and buy our ways to the top.

I'm the liar rofl!

Glad you are proud of me because it's a lot easier being a little bitch like you and not paying out.

You got no balls powder puff probably like your dad or lack of a dad.

Your mother raise you?

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Congratulations, really, I am proud of you. Not all of us can lie and buy our ways to the top.

I'm the liar rofl!

Glad you are proud of me because it's a lot easier being a little bitch like you and not paying out.

You got no balls powder puff probably like your dad or lack of a dad.

Your mother raise you?

Your driving in the wrong direction here. Really no need to take it personal, this is all business.
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March 26, 2016, 03:33:50 AM
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I never gamble with funds I can't afford to lose.  Roll Eyes

This isn't entirely true because in 2013 I lost everything on Just-Dice... I used that as a fire under my ass and within 2 months I went from nothing to over $100,000.

Congratulations, really, I am proud of you. Not all of us can lie and buy our ways to the top.

I'm the liar rofl!

Glad you are proud of me because it's a lot easier being a little bitch like you and not paying out.

You got no balls powder puff probably like your dad or lack of a dad.

Your mother raise you?

Your driving in the wrong direction here. Really no need to take it personal, this is all business.

See this is where you are mistaken... my business is personal.

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I never gamble with funds I can't afford to lose.  Roll Eyes

This isn't entirely true because in 2013 I lost everything on Just-Dice... I used that as a fire under my ass and within 2 months I went from nothing to over $100,000.


That's a lovely story. Wait, why are you talking to yourself?
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March 26, 2016, 04:04:51 AM
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Stop with your bullshit I've paid you plenty of times during our degen clam moments without escrow. Your just mad because you were doing more paying than I was. Don't blame me for your shitty karma induced luck.

If I lose a bet... I pay. I don't get made about gambling losses.

My shitty karma induce losses... lol!  I won the boxing bet scrub.

Want to double or nothing your money using escrow?

$790x2= what you would put in escrow.

It's amazing your still in the betting mood with me. I like that. Noted.

You will have to escrow the $790x2 on our bet.

If you win the $790 owed is gone... if I win then I take the $1580.

We are both gamblers  Cool
This is about as fair as it gets, another bet double or nothing safe with escrow.

It looks to me like you have 2 options
1) Pay you debt.
2) Take the offer of a double or nothing bet.

I don't know the full facts and you two seem to have been friends at one stage.
All I know is what I see here and it looks like you owe BayAreaCoins $790 in btc, going by just what has been provided.

I never like to takes side in an argument that doesn't involve me but this does seem to favour BAC.

What is your main reason for not paying this debt that you acknowledge is outstanding?


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