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March 18, 2016, 07:17:10 AM
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In the 8 years of atmospheric nuclear testing at Bikini Atoll,
fall out from 66 fission and hydrogen bombs had rained down on their region.

https://marshallislands.llnl.gov/rongelap.php

http://www.greenpeace.org/international/en/about/history/mejato/

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March 19, 2016, 04:56:07 PM
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The Americans are the worst of the hypocrites. They killed some 300,000 civilians by dropping nukes in Nagasaki and Hiroshima, and till now they have refused to apologize for these genocides. They have made many Pacific islands and atolls uninhabitable by conducting nuclear tests, and even after this they have refused to compensate the native population.
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March 19, 2016, 07:07:47 PM
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The Americans are the worst of the hypocrites. They killed some 300,000 civilians by dropping nukes in Nagasaki and Hiroshima, and till now they have refused to apologize for these genocides. They have made many Pacific islands and atolls uninhabitable by conducting nuclear tests, and even after this they have refused to compensate the native population.

I don't want to defend them dropping the nuclear bombs, it's not justified but they may have ultimately saved more lives than a long, drawn out land warface campaign. That's the thing - the winners of wars tend to write the history and Japan never needed to attack them in the first place. They should certainly compensate any islanders who have been affected by radiation or other nuclear fallout from testing.

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March 19, 2016, 10:25:45 PM
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They should certainly compensate any islanders who have been affected by radiation or other nuclear fallout from testing.

The fact, that this native popolation was used as biologic material for military test, and they become radiation and was not assisted medically.
At least, they ware put to living on contaminated isles again.
They become no information about tests to hide themselfs, even japanese fishing ship was hitted by explosion.

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March 19, 2016, 10:29:45 PM
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In the 8 years of atmospheric nuclear testing at Bikini Atoll,
fall out from 66 fission and hydrogen bombs had rained down on their region.

https://marshallislands.llnl.gov/rongelap.php

http://www.greenpeace.org/international/en/about/history/mejato/

If you can find even 1% of the USA population to care, then I will try to help, but for know...
...it is just the way of the world.   Shocked

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March 19, 2016, 10:49:58 PM
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The Americans are the worst of the hypocrites. They killed some 300,000 civilians by dropping nukes in Nagasaki and Hiroshima, and till now they have refused to apologize for these genocides. They have made many Pacific islands and atolls uninhabitable by conducting nuclear tests, and even after this they have refused to compensate the native population.
Not defending nuclear bombs, but the fear was the Nazis had a nuclear bomb before them. In a world war governments go mad.

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March 20, 2016, 06:14:32 AM
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Not defending nuclear bombs, but the fear was the Nazis had a nuclear bomb before them. In a world war governments go mad.

I had read somewhere that it was the German scientists (Kurt Diebner, Erich Schumann.etc) who successfully created the nuclear bomb for the first time. But for some unknown reason, Shitler refused to grant permission for the test explosions. Also, the Americans nuked Japan many months after the Germans surrendered to the Russian/American forces.
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March 20, 2016, 08:02:21 AM
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Not defending nuclear bombs, but the fear was the Nazis had a nuclear bomb before them. In a world war governments go mad.
At the time dropping of bombs Germany was already capitulate, and Japan was at the end of his strength. Bombs were such violent demonstration of power to the rest of the world, directed to Russia and other possible enemies after war.
Bombs were not necessary for the ending of war, and targets were civilians!
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March 20, 2016, 08:12:34 AM
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If you can find even 1% of the USA population to care, then I will try to help, but for know...
...it is just the way of the world.   Shocked
US people just don't care what their government doing all over the world. They even don't know what they planning for them. How many people believe that 9/11 is inside job? And Terrorists are officially guilty ones. They created dumb people so they can rule them easier.
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March 20, 2016, 10:13:33 AM
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At the time dropping of bombs Germany was already capitulate, and Japan was at the end of his strength. Bombs were such violent demonstration of power to the rest of the world, directed to Russia and other possible enemies after war.
Bombs were not necessary for the ending of war, and targets were civilians!

Exactly. Had the Americans restrained from obliterating the two cities with nukes, then perhaps the world would have never seen the nuclear arms race, which occurred during the mid 20th century. It was a vulgar display of hate and arrogance. And I hope that someday either Russia or China will give the Americans a taste of their own medicine.
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March 20, 2016, 11:21:15 AM
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At the time dropping of bombs Germany was already capitulate, and Japan was at the end of his strength. Bombs were such violent demonstration of power to the rest of the world, directed to Russia and other possible enemies after war.
Bombs were not necessary for the ending of war, and targets were civilians!

Exactly. Had the Americans restrained from obliterating the two cities with nukes, then perhaps the world would have never seen the nuclear arms race, which occurred during the mid 20th century.

Extremely unlikely.  You may as well argue that guns wouldn't be so widespread had the first guy to use a gun hadn't done so.  Eventually someone else would've figured it out and used it to their advantage, setting the whole thing in motion: since nobody wants to be at a disadvantage, they must adopt the technology; only thing stopping it before was: nobody knew it even existed for one, or how it was possible for two once knowledge of its existence is there.  Surely had the Chinese not used that first gun in the 11th century...

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I hope that someday either Russia or China will give the Americans a taste of their own medicine.

You can fuck right off, I haven't a single relationship between any of these things, not with nuking Japan and not with the Rongelap genocide.  What makes you any better than the men who chose to do these things?--both you and them hoped for the needless deaths of innocents.  Meanwhile I want nothing but peace and prosperity for us all.  If there were far more people like me and far less people like you, the world would be just peachy.  Let that sink in.

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March 20, 2016, 12:04:38 PM
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This is a,simple genocide if we compare with their black and indian genocide. They killed african people, they made them slaves. They changed their religions by missionaries. Black man couldn't be their brother even by being christian.
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March 20, 2016, 01:43:17 PM
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You can fuck right off, I haven't a single relationship between any of these things, not with nuking Japan and not with the Rongelap genocide.  What makes you any better than the men who chose to do these things?--both you and them hoped for the needless deaths of innocents.  Meanwhile I want nothing but peace and prosperity for us all.  If there were far more people like me and far less people like you, the world would be just peachy.  Let that sink in.

The Americans need to stop invading third world nations and playing world police. They will only do so, if they get a taste of their own medicine. Once some hostile nation bombs the hospitals and orphanages in the United States, the Americans will realize the real value of human life. Then they will stop bombing the hospitals and kindergartens in the third world nations.
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@bryant.coleman
Yes many problems were caused by US interferings.
I'm not for revenge, we won't accomplish anything, but someone must confront US hegemonism. Nobody is safe today, they will attack or will cause civil unrest or who knows what else.
Not to mention big corporations and banks enslaving people all over the world, countries in debts selling theirs national resources to corporations..
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March 20, 2016, 09:29:46 PM
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At the time dropping of bombs Germany was already capitulate, and Japan was at the end of his strength. Bombs were such violent demonstration of power to the rest of the world, directed to Russia and other possible enemies after war.
Bombs were not necessary for the ending of war, and targets were civilians!

Japan was still a pretty hard nut to crack. The heavy losses during the Okinawa campaign lead directly to those nuclear strikes, as a traditional all out final assault on mainland Japan would have been very costly by all means. Of course those attacks were also a demonstration for the rest of the world, especially for the USSR.
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Japan was still a pretty hard nut to crack. The heavy losses during the Okinawa campaign lead directly to those nuclear strikes, as a traditional all out final assault on mainland Japan would have been very costly by all means. Of course those attacks were also a demonstration for the rest of the world, especially for the USSR.

After the surrender of Germany, the morale of the Japanese troops were really low and Emperor Hirohito was considering the surrender options. The real reason why the Americans decided to use the nukes was that they were afraid that the Soviets will invade mainland Japan first. The USSR had already captured Kuriles and Karafuto from Japan. So the nuclear attack was done not to save additional lives, but to keep the USSR out of Japan.
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March 21, 2016, 11:04:16 AM
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Of course those attacks were also a demonstration for the rest of the world, especially for the USSR.

Demonstration of what is Genocide of Rongelap?
Bombing with no advice on local popolation?
US "Medical help" in cures with antibiotics on body singe and hidding the existence of singe cases from bombing in local popolation?



Children playing in cemitery, due to high mortality.

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March 21, 2016, 05:19:36 PM
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The Americans are the worst of the hypocrites. They killed some 300,000 civilians by dropping nukes in Nagasaki and Hiroshima, and till now they have refused to apologize for these genocides. They have made many Pacific islands and atolls uninhabitable by conducting nuclear tests, and even after this they have refused to compensate the native population.
no not enough you said about the u.s .Are they only responsible for what they did in japan?no ,not enough.Remember germany bombings ,remember bombings in Afghanistan , remember Cambodia ,vietnam and ıraq and north africa and latin america and many more. And it seems to go on :killing the peace not making peace.

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March 22, 2016, 05:10:00 AM
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Japan was still a pretty hard nut to crack. The heavy losses during the Okinawa campaign lead directly to those nuclear strikes, as a traditional all out final assault on mainland Japan would have been very costly by all means. Of course those attacks were also a demonstration for the rest of the world, especially for the USSR.

After the surrender of Germany, the morale of the Japanese troops were really low and Emperor Hirohito was considering the surrender options. The real reason why the Americans decided to use the nukes was that they were afraid that the Soviets will invade mainland Japan first. The USSR had already captured Kuriles and Karafuto from Japan. So the nuclear attack was done not to save additional lives, but to keep the USSR out of Japan.

Agree. And certainly the attacks were not done to save civilian japanese lives. Because americans had no problem firebombing most japanese cities. Killing hundreds of thousands and leaving millions homeless.
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March 22, 2016, 05:44:33 AM
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Killing hundreds of thousands and leaving millions homeless.

Tell me the number of killed Chinese citizens by Japanese Militaries.

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