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March 19, 2016, 08:44:49 AM
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Wow when i login my account again!
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Lutpin 10: -0 / +6 2016-03-04 0.00000000 Reference Luring users into depositing money to well known ponzi schemes by vouching for them, possibly aiding the operator of the scheme to scam naive users.
whywefight 12: -0 / +4 2016-03-01 0.00000000 Reference Promoting a ponzi. Even its might be decleared as a ponzi, people will end up loosing money. Stop dragging in other people!
I don't know why I am join promotion game as many people in bitcointalk.org mean that i lure newbie to join game =)).. I really have a question about our DT member - Lutpin and whywefight =))... lol.. Negative point for who join games - our reputation system give this rule for them? Smiley.. U make us feel terrible when join our Bitcointalk Community... Pls remove it! Or i will do anything to report u.. I feel very angry and i can't stand for who give me a negative point because the unreasonable answer!
This is reference: http://archive.is/b66UE#selection-2135.0-2135.24
And he use account as :"whywefight" to send me negative point, too Smiley.. maybe this account is friend or only he :v.. They manage our trusted system =))
P/s: Put your reputation with your high responbility pls! LUTPIN

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March 19, 2016, 10:16:49 AM
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Are you promoting a ponzi?

If so, you know you are just stealing coins from members that join the scam after you, right?


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March 19, 2016, 10:19:57 AM
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Are you promoting a ponzi?

If so, you know you are just stealing coins from members that join the scam after you, right?


No, my VOD. If join games of PONZI SITE, do we call PROMOTING PONZI SITE?. So "ALL" of member posting at this topic will be the same or i think give negative for who really RUN THIS PROMOTION(owner of this site, or PROMOTER)Smiley.. Could u saw the references?. I "DON'T PROMOTION IT", I "JOIN IT GAMES" on THIS TOPIC. This is not FAIRLY. Smiley. I think CLOSED PONZI TOPIC is usefull more than give all member comment at topic the NEGATIVE REPUTATION. tks u!
Reference to join there games: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1374876.msg14013558#msg14013558

=)) Do u think this is USEFULL FEEDBACK for bitcointalk member?

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March 19, 2016, 11:52:15 AM
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I "DON'T PROMOTION IT", I "JOIN IT GAMES" on THIS TOPIC. This is not FAIRLY.
You joined the game, entered their promotion, posted about your earnings and how you love the game.
This is not just joining, you are encouraging others to join the scheme aswell, or why do you think the owner rewards you to post about it?

You could have just contacted me, to talk about it, and I would have given you the reasons and a way to work it out.
But instead you open a thread and retaliate, congratulations.



Are you promoting a ponzi?
Pretty clearly.

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March 19, 2016, 12:01:21 PM
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I "DON'T PROMOTION IT", I "JOIN IT GAMES" on THIS TOPIC. This is not FAIRLY.
You joined the game, entered their promotion, posted about your earnings and how you love the game.
This is not just joining, you are encouraging others to join the scheme aswell, or why do you think the owner rewards you to post about it?

You could have just contacted me, to talk about it, and I would have given you the reasons and a way to work it out.
But instead you open a thread and retaliate, congratulations.



Are you promoting a ponzi?
Pretty clearly.

I love ♥ Coin Generator!
My Earnings: 1,336 SAT( i'm new here)
User ID:1bf6d180
Review:Nothing to say.. I really like your design Smiley.. Hope will have profitable with Coin Generator!
Really? I can listed many people join this game of topic:
ilvbtc - Hero Member
kevinex - Member
TheInfidel - Hero Member
DarkStar_  - Full Member
radhwane - Full Member
and many others..
U deductive our posting has promoting this topic.. i think u right a bit, because me and somebody post earning like a proof of this site? This is real proof at this time to claim their game! On internet, we have only proof. Scam soon or late is scam only. So all people as foolish and can't recognized this site as PONZI site Smiley.We don't invite anyone or motivate them DIRECTLY, of course? U can collect all GIVE AWAY and SIGNATURE CAMPAIGN( promotion campaign) at forum and mark them as promoting scam. So when find out them, report to MOD and close all GIVE AWAY, SIGNATURE CAMPAIGN. One more, what's your promotion definition? And PONZI PROMOTER?
Why i must wait for GET OUT MY NEGATIVE FROM U? Because this is fraudlent feedback from WHO have abuse trusted building!. I don't scare about it, like u! This is not DEAL, this is reputation problem Smiley.. All your activity has archived and i want everybody know that u are not a DT at bitcoitalk
Someone have negative from your only "BEWARE", someone not. Why? If u want beware everybody,U should make a TOPIC to NOTICE everybody or give PM for them, easily! NOT give your negative feedback as u like to do it for present your POWER Smiley ok?.
Finally, i REALLY think PONZI is NOT good, but everybody not foolish!
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March 19, 2016, 12:23:03 PM
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OP has a point... Maybe if he was promoting a ponzi that isnt a ponzi game within investor games subforum?

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March 19, 2016, 12:29:14 PM
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OP has a point... Maybe if he was promoting a ponzi that isnt a ponzi game within investor games subforum?
Still, this doesn't take away the fact that Lutpin is within his right to post a negative feedback, his comments are not false or anything.


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March 19, 2016, 12:32:14 PM
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Really OP, you gonna give me negative trust from all your alts?

I want to re-enroll this campaign
Adress : 13XXT6uGNwe93DQm8NEYVhwbAHPznLrRL9
(http://archive.is/Ap3Ea#selection-2615.9-2615.43)

Done!
My address : 13XXT6uGNwe93DQm8NEYVhwbAHPznLrRL9
(http://archive.is/EhYCA#selection-5931.13-5931.47)





Wanna talk about your other alts?

Starting here.
BTC wallet: 13XXT6uGNwe93DQm8NEYVhwbAHPznLrRL9
(http://archive.is/otObs#selection-4321.12-4321.46)

Now it's getting funny. This account is (possibly permanently) banned.

"Sorry vpsmmoforall, you are banned from posting or sending personal messages on this forum.
You have been banned by a forum moderator. You may appeal here: banappeals-w6pquw43@theymos.e4ward.com ."
I have banned forever? who can give me advice?
(http://archive.is/VpLFF)

Those alts both have negative feedback from Muhammed Zakir, read here -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=878794.0



Anything to say for yourself OP?


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March 19, 2016, 12:40:00 PM
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Really OP, you gonna give me negative trust from all your alts?

I want to re-enroll this campaign
Adress : 13XXT6uGNwe93DQm8NEYVhwbAHPznLrRL9
(http://archive.is/Ap3Ea#selection-2615.9-2615.43)

Done!
My address : 13XXT6uGNwe93DQm8NEYVhwbAHPznLrRL9
(http://archive.is/EhYCA#selection-5931.13-5931.47)





Wanna talk about your other alts?

Starting here.
BTC wallet: 13XXT6uGNwe93DQm8NEYVhwbAHPznLrRL9
(http://archive.is/otObs#selection-4321.12-4321.46)

Now it's getting funny. This account is permanently banned.

"Sorry vpsmmoforall, you are banned from posting or sending personal messages on this forum.
You have been banned by a forum moderator. You may appeal here: banappeals-w6pquw43@theymos.e4ward.com ."
I have banned forever? who can give me advice?
(http://archive.is/VpLFF)



Anything to say for yourself OP?
I don't scare about u!
- First, vpsmmoforall is one my account for ban for noob posting (2012,2013)? Why i can't u another to join our community with my new account for professional? Smiley.
- Second, casinobonus was my another account to make some EVENT for casinobonus club Smiley. And this is my employement account. I can access this easy. No problem, because this account don't do anything abuse for rules! ( Spamming)
One again!

I want talk to u! Don't think u smart as u do. And we are talking about YOU at TRUSTED FEEDBACK.. not my old account? Don't remove targeting for main topic!

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March 19, 2016, 12:42:41 PM
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First, vpsmmoforall is one my account for ban for noob posting (2012,2013)? Why i can't u another to join our community with my new account for professional? Smiley.
Because you as a person are banned, not just the account. What you are doing is called ban evasion.

- Second, casinobonus was my another account to make some EVENT for casinobonus club Smiley. And this is my employement account. I can access this easy. No problem, because this account don't do anything abuse for rules! ( Spamming)
So you think it is ok to send negative feedback to me from all your alt accounts? How nice of you.

I want talk to u! Don't think u smart as u do. And we are talking about YOU at TRUSTED FEEDBACK.. not my old account? Don't remove targeting for main topic!
This is the topic. I don't think you are trustworthy, for several reasons.
Congratulations, you've found the retaliation feedbacks on my account, how convincing.


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March 19, 2016, 12:48:34 PM
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First, vpsmmoforall is one my account for ban for noob posting (2012,2013)? Why i can't u another to join our community with my new account for professional? Smiley.
Because you as a person are banned, not just the account. What you are doing is called ban evasion.

- Second, casinobonus was my another account to make some EVENT for casinobonus club Smiley. And this is my employement account. I can access this easy. No problem, because this account don't do anything abuse for rules! ( Spamming)
So you think it is ok to send negative feedback to me from all your alt accounts? How nice of you.

I want talk to u! Don't think u smart as u do. And we are talking about YOU at TRUSTED FEEDBACK.. not my old account? Don't remove targeting for main topic!
This is the topic. I don't think you are trustworthy, for several reasons.
Congratulations, you've found the retaliation feedbacks on my account, how convincing.
I can use my OLD information and face up with! I don't scare about anythings. I haven't talk I'm legit or trustworthy. But i see your working is unfair to everybody, not to me! Business is business, not depend on your feedback Smiley. If u can check, i join at MMO for a long time and join many MMO forum!But have no NEGATIVE FEEDBACK as vpsmmoforall or lastlove9091.
Don't make me scare with your information! We do on internet, not your local!
And i think DT member at this forum should not have someone like u, so i creat this topic!

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March 19, 2016, 12:57:05 PM
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First, vpsmmoforall is one my account for ban for noob posting (2012,2013)? Why i can't u another to join our community with my new account for professional? Smiley.
Because you as a person are banned, not just the account. What you are doing is called ban evasion.
Now thats interesting. Contacted grue for letting him know that he should perma-ban lastlove for ban evasion yet?
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But have no NEGATIVE FEEDBACK as vpsmmoforall.
Come again?!



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March 19, 2016, 01:21:11 PM
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Now thats interesting. Contacted grue for letting him know that he should perma-ban lastlove for ban evasion yet?
Considering OP created his current account (lastlove9091) two months after his banned alt account (vpsmmoforall) then he is certainly evading his ban. Whether he will be penalized for it now however, since it has been ~1.5 years since those accounts were made, is a different story. Considering the ban on the previous account was permanent though, it isn't looking good for OP.

And i think DT member at this forum should not have someone like u, so i creat this topic!
You don't think that DT should have members that mark people for helping scammers? What do you think DT should be for?

OP has a point... Maybe if he was promoting a ponzi that isnt a ponzi game within investor games subforum?
Promoting a scam isn't suddenly alright because it is in a place full of other scams. Trying to justify him doing this simply because it is in the Investor Based Games subforum and you can assume people 'know how the websites there work' isn't right. Some people do not know how the websites in that subforum work, and people like OP cementing the belief that such websites are legit causes people to be scammed.
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March 19, 2016, 01:22:20 PM
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But have no NEGATIVE FEEDBACK as vpsmmoforall.
Come again?!


Come again like u! oh, my account will delete. But this topic has archived to everybody to see what u doing Smiley
This is topic about this problem: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=878794.0

And one again Smiley.. You are really regconized that i don't use mmo2k14 at bitcointalk?


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March 19, 2016, 01:26:43 PM
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Now thats interesting. Contacted grue for letting him know that he should perma-ban lastlove for ban evasion yet?
Considering OP created his current account (lastlove9091) two months after his banned alt account (vpsmmoforall) then he is certainly evading his ban. Whether he will be penalized for it now however, since it has been ~1.5 years since those accounts were made, is a different story. Considering the ban on the previous account was permanent though, it isn't looking good for OP.
OP commited ban evasion the moment they were banned. Shorena warned OP about this back then.

who can give me advice?
Id advice you to stop evading your ban [1] as this might result in a permanent ban.

[1] e.g. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=873422.msg9668618#msg9668618
Given that, it's fairly possible, that mmok2k14 and vpsmmoforall are banned permanently for said evasion.

You are really regconized that i don't use mmo2k14 at bitcointalk?
Because that account is banned aswell, right?



oh, my account will delete. But this topic has archived to everybody to see what u doing Smiley
Oh yeah, it certainly shows me in a bad light, not to you.


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March 19, 2016, 01:32:50 PM
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People who give red trust for legit ponzis and still promote other gambling sites are hypocrites.
They just want gamblers to gamble in sites they have invested in/are promoting so that is why they smear legit ponzis.

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March 19, 2016, 01:36:21 PM
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Now thats interesting. Contacted grue for letting him know that he should perma-ban lastlove for ban evasion yet?
Considering OP created his current account (lastlove9091) two months after his banned alt account (vpsmmoforall) then he is certainly evading his ban. Whether he will be penalized for it now however, since it has been ~1.5 years since those accounts were made, is a different story. Considering the ban on the previous account was permanent though, it isn't looking good for OP.
OP commited ban evasion the moment they were banned. Shorena warned OP about this back then.

who can give me advice?
Id advice you to stop evading your ban [1] as this might result in a permanent ban.

[1] e.g. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=873422.msg9668618#msg9668618
Given that, it's fairly possible, that mmok2k14 and vpsmmoforall are banned permanently for said evasion.

You are really regconized that i don't use mmo2k14 at bitcointalk?
Because that account is banned aswell, right?



oh, my account will delete. But this topic has archived to everybody to see what u doing Smiley
Oh yeah, it certainly shows me in a bad light, not to you.
mmo2k14 can't access because lost email!
Congrats to you, my puppet police =))... Work hards more and more to find out who have no SCAM anyone =))
But onetime again, we TALK to your working not my previous! Haha... white member =)) After 9 months with 1k8 post Smiley. I very appreciate u. But after u have POWER, what u do? Give many people negative feedback? For what? I don't know? Maybe Trusted system give u a virtual power that u are emperor and we are like sheep!

Now thats interesting. Contacted grue for letting him know that he should perma-ban lastlove for ban evasion yet?
Considering OP created his current account (lastlove9091) two months after his banned alt account (vpsmmoforall) then he is certainly evading his ban. Whether he will be penalized for it now however, since it has been ~1.5 years since those accounts were made, is a different story. Considering the ban on the previous account was permanent though, it isn't looking good for OP.

And i think DT member at this forum should not have someone like u, so i creat this topic!
You don't think that DT should have members that mark people for helping scammers? What do you think DT should be for?

OP has a point... Maybe if he was promoting a ponzi that isnt a ponzi game within investor games subforum?
Promoting a scam isn't suddenly alright because it is in a place full of other scams. Trying to justify him doing this simply because it is in the Investor Based Games subforum and you can assume people 'know how the websites there work' isn't right. Some people do not know how the websites in that subforum work, and people like OP cementing the belief that such websites are legit causes people to be scammed.
Oh tks you for clarsify Smiley. I have contacted to BadBear but no answer for me, so creat new account for join BTC with old information maybe not good idea!.
Crime has a chance to make life, but I, not crime, only have NOOB activity at first time join BTC can make new?..

About this topic, I really want everybody know FAIRLY on Bitcointalk forum is important than anything else. DT member is who we trusted on along time and FAIRLY on working! Not to spam many post after several months and get legit after several deals and use POWER for present that:"Oh, i'm DT member at this forum, my rules is forum rules, u must follow them!"....
Hmm, I know if i don't like Lutpin, i can put him at Trusted Setting, and don't care about this.. But i feel him live with  his virtual power so much. It makes someones( newbie or elder) at our community feel Bitcointalk is magisterial!
People who give red trust for legit ponzis and still promote other gambling sites are hypocrites.
They just want gamblers to gamble in sites they have invested in/are promoting so that is why they smear legit ponzis.
yes, u right.. I want mention that Lutpin use his power to against other ponzi site not have his investment!

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March 19, 2016, 03:59:31 PM
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People who give red trust for legit ponzis and still promote other gambling sites are hypocrites.
They just want gamblers to gamble in sites they have invested in/are promoting so that is why they smear legit ponzis.

Repeating "legit ponzi" doesn't make it legit. Comparing it to gambling doesn't make it gambling.

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March 19, 2016, 04:58:39 PM
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Are you promoting a ponzi?

If so, you know you are just stealing coins from members that join the scam after you, right?


No, my VOD. If join games of PONZI SITE, do we call PROMOTING PONZI SITE?. So "ALL" of member posting at this topic will be the same or i think give negative for who really RUN THIS PROMOTION(owner of this site, or PROMOTER)Smiley.. Could u saw the references?. I "DON'T PROMOTION IT", I "JOIN IT GAMES" on THIS TOPIC. This is not FAIRLY. Smiley. I think CLOSED PONZI TOPIC is usefull more than give all member comment at topic the NEGATIVE REPUTATION. tks u!
Reference to join there games: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1374876.msg14013558#msg14013558

=)) Do u think this is USEFULL FEEDBACK for bitcointalk member?


Yes i think it is a usefull feedback. If you review those (by klicking the reference) you will see those people are promoting ponzis. as stated multiple times before: promoting ponzis makes people untrustworthy in my eyes. Helping scammers to scam other people makes you a scammer. Thats my point of view. As far as i remeber the negative feedback option states:

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Negative - You were scammed or you strongly believe that this person is a scammer.

By advertising and engageing others to join the ponzi you are scamming others. its obvious you have to get other people in, to get your own "investment" (LOL) back. Thats how those systems work. Even there is a warning at the section, people still fall for it and as soon as the ponzi stops paying they posting several pages "this is scam". orly??

Again, you can waste your money, i dont care, but i care if you try to get others in.

Yes most of my feedbacks are prewritten as i use them over and over again, for the same kind of people. Just because its not a message personally written for you, it doesnt make it wrong. If you find a feedback you want to discuss with me because you think its wrong, you are welcome to contact me.

PS: I dont get why people always tell me: "As a DT member you cant do this" i am not on DT. if i would be on DT my feedback or my pov would still be the same. the lack of understanding and propper research just makes me think one thing: i am right with my point of view about your actions.

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