New Drama from BitcoinASIC

[polrpaul]

You get a lot of information on relatives from Tom's maternal grandmother Charmaine's Obituary:
http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fobits.syracuse.com%2Fobituaries%2Fsyracuse%2Fobituary-print.aspx%3Fn%3Dcharmaine-stiles-moonie%26pid%3D159889538&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNEgdUlMt4dPuf8qSrH2mzl_MXStjw


Tom's Mom, Sue D. Breen
http://www.mylife.com/c-267162784
https://sites.google.com/site/ocacpa/

315-561-3022 is a Sprint Mobile phone which Tom used to advertise for his CNY Media PC Repair:
http://www.merchantcircle.com/business/CNY.Media.PC.Repair.Specialist.315-561-3022


Aunt Robin, Sue's sister:
https://www.facebook.com/robin.mccombie


Uncle Tammie (Tedd), Sue's brother:
https://www.facebook.com/tedd.stiles

[server]

Start praying Tom, we want our coins back.

Thou shall not steal, motherfucker.

[SgtSpike]

He doesn't appear to be watching this thread...

"Last Active:    January 22, 2013, 09:16:33 PM"

[greyhawk]

He doesn't appear to be watching this thread...

"Last Active:    January 22, 2013, 09:16:33 PM"

That doesn't mean much. If you remember, that account was blocked for "being hacked". He's more likely here with another account altogether. Or not signed in at all.

[SgtSpike]

He doesn't appear to be watching this thread...

"Last Active:    January 22, 2013, 09:16:33 PM"

That doesn't mean much. If you remember, that account was blocked for "being hacked". He's more likely here with another account altogether. Or not signed in at all.

Good point.  I didn't remember that.

[mezzomix]

Is the police responsible to investigate when they get a notice about a large scale fraud or is selling a product, get paid with a non-standard currency and never deliver anything legal in the US? Will there be an official investigation?

[repentance]

Is the police responsible to investigate when they get a notice about a large scale fraud or is selling a product, get paid with a non-standard currency and never deliver anything legal in the US? Will there be an official investigation?

A business venture gone bad is not necessarily a fraud.  Pretending to be another company and using their credentials without their knowledge or credentials certainly opens one up to potential criminal charges but that's most likely to be investigated if and when Ari Asmar files an official complaint. 

This has been so poorly executed that it's extremely unlikely anyone has actually sent any funds to the fraudulent "re-branded" company and I have no idea of how highly attempted fraud is going to rate on any investigator's list of priorities.

In many cases, you're just going to be shit out of luck if you've paid a company for a product with an irreversible payment method (meaning pretty much anything other than CC or PayPal) and the company goes bust before delivery.  While you're free to obtain a judgement against them for the amount owed (assuming they don't seek insolvency protection), judgements against small business are often effectively unenforceable because small business owners often put all their liquid assets into starting their business, borrow against their homes, run up their credit cards, etc.

[SgtSpike]

Is the police responsible to investigate when they get a notice about a large scale fraud or is selling a product, get paid with a non-standard currency and never deliver anything legal in the US? Will there be an official investigation?

I doubt local police would get involved, but an agency like the SEC might if the value is large enough.  I don't think it matters whether that value is in USD or not.

[puck2]

NEW THEORY: Tom isn't scamming... he lost the password to the big wallet. Alcohol and advanced encryption don't mix.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Is the police responsible to investigate when they get a notice about a large scale fraud or is selling a product, get paid with a non-standard currency and never deliver anything legal in the US? Will there be an official investigation?

I doubt local police would get involved, but an agency like the SEC might if the value is large enough.  I don't think it matters whether that value is in USD or not.

I may have to beg to differ on this, SS.

I'm sure we've all seen, heard, read, etc., accounts of scams taking place via phone, now net, preying mainly on the elderly, but other demographics apply. The local paper does a little write-up on said scams, advising its citizens to contact the local police department, anonymously, if anybody has information. There hope is to nap the guy(s)/gal(s) before further damage is done in the respected community.

Likewise, if you see a theft committed of some other person, the police will not decide to not investigate because it's not your property at stake. Furthermore, if you know of a person who has stolen property, even though it's not your property, you're obligated to inform the police department. This is true even if the thief hasn't yet been reported, let alone not yet in the court systems, regardless of what jurisdiction the items were stolen from. In this case, it's documented and trackable wealth stolen from citizens from across the globe.

An example, to possibly drive the point home. I go to Indiana and visit a fellow Bitcoiner. During the visit, I stealing something from his home he yet has discovered missing. Back in Illinois, another fellow Bitcoiner visits my home and somehow notices that I have stolen property in my possession belonging to the other Bitcoiner in Indiana. The Bitcoiner in Indiana is now currently on safari in Africa, and will remain out of pocket for at least a couple more months. Meanwhile, it's a known fact, I'm moving soon.

Given the above, the Bitcoiner who visited my home is obligated to contact the police, stating his case. At this point, the police may take possession of said stolen item, informing me that I will get it back once the safari guy returns and proves that this is all a misunderstanding. No real harm for all parties occurred, and all are protected.

In Tom's case, the proof is overwhelming, and for the police not to act accordingly would not bode well for their department.

Bottom line, real wealth was transferred via wire under false pretense, and the scam is continuing to this day, but now incorporating identity theft, a felony.

To me, if convicted, Tom Van Riper may not see his children grow up, and all the college degrees he's earned would be for naught. Now, imagine being in his shoes. You think you pulled the perfect crime, but compounded it, and now you're scared to death. Personally, if I pulled such a stunt, not a single family member would come to my rescue, regardless of what I may have done for them in the past. I can't see anybody having 100% support from their family if they pulled such a ruse.

Tom Van Riper is not in a happy place now, for he inevitable knows that his perhaps once good name is forever tarnished.

~Bruno K~

[Phinnaeus Gage]

I just heard from the bank, my credit will be issued back to my credit card.  I called the Police because of the threats to his family.  I don't know what really happened but the whole things sounds more like a screw-up than a deliberate scam.

Given it a screw-up label, for sake of argument, aren't screw-ups addressed in a timely manner? Or did I miss the memo stating that hiding from screw-ups in the new norm? Missing that paradigm shift if quite possible on my part, for I've been busy lately.

[polrpaul]

Tom Van Riper is not in a happy place now, for he inevitable knows that his perhaps once good name is forever tarnished.

Unless he's already gone.. slipped into permanent vacation with his family and can't be traced. I doubt he'd be dumb enough to remain a sitting duck.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Tom Van Riper is not in a happy place now, for he inevitable knows that his perhaps once good name is forever tarnished.

Unless he's already gone.. slipped into permanent vacation with his family and can't be traced. I doubt he'd be dumb enough to remain a sitting duck.

Having a family in tow makes it much more difficult for him to hide, let alone earn a conventional living from this day forward. Unless his kids will be home-schooled, and he changes everybody's Social Security Number, hiding is pretty much impossible. One person may be able to do, but not a tainted family of five named Van Riper.

What the fuck am I talking about? Trendon Shavers is probably in his mom's bathroom jacking off while reading this.

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I believe this picture of Cablepair / Thomas Van Riper was taken at this location.

Does anyone know if he still stays at this location ?

The Fulton address comes up positive for a person named Amy [C.] Vanriper. She is 29 years old. About the same age as Tom. Perhaps, his sister or wife.
Associated with the same address is the name Jeremy Wallace that is about ten years older or so which is possibly old data.

Well, now it's known where the lawyers can start looking.

Tom (unless he is just a patsy for of a more elaborate scheme) can do himself a big favor by updating people on the status of all the returns. Like how many are to process, and his daily progress...etc.. Silence on the issue only builds frustration with the people that already got screwed over.

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I'm all for going after scammers as aggressively as possible, but you might want to do a little more research before you post the name and address of some quite possibly unrelated person.

Anything whatsoever to suggest that the two live(d) there at the same time, or know each other? Or did you find some woman's name related to that address, and you're just running it up the flag poll?

That's the address Tom used. And the last name is the same as Toms. Seems dubious to think that they would happen to have the same last name at the same address and not be related. The purpose is to track down & confirm the identity of Tom, and if the person at the address is related to Tom, it would be helpful to locate him for any legal course. The information provided is from the public white pages at  the address Tom posted.

I'd be happy to delete all my posts about Tom if he refunded those he took coins from.

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[repentance]

What the fuck am I talking about? Trendon Shavers is probably in his mom's bathroom jacking off while reading this.

Exactly.

[||bit]

The phone number in the white pages online that ends with "3019" is not Tom's number. Apparently, the woman that has it now said she got it last year. And she said she's received over a hundred phone calls over the past months. So, avoid calling this number. She said she would change her number tomorrow.

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[repentance]

Y'all need to read this post.

I have just received  an  encrypted email, one where I had to log into THEIR system to read the email and reply.
the Bank have been following this case/new-site & the forum.

They are STRONGLY of the opinion  that a 'Card replacement' is in order for any CC related to this case.
Since the original cards were processed and the 3 digit security number was supplied to validate the transactions, there is nothing to prevent the CC being re-billed or the card details being 'used' illegally.
Since the details  (address & cardholder details, card number & security digits) are in the possession of a 3rd party

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140472.msg1511184#msg1511184

If you paid Tom by credit card, get a replacement card issued.

[polrpaul]

Y'all need to read this post.

I have just received  an  encrypted email, one where I had to log into THEIR system to read the email and reply.
the Bank have been following this case/new-site & the forum.

They are STRONGLY of the opinion  that a 'Card replacement' is in order for any CC related to this case.
Since the original cards were processed and the 3 digit security number was supplied to validate the transactions, there is nothing to prevent the CC being re-billed or the card details being 'used' illegally.
Since the details  (address & cardholder details, card number & security digits) are in the possession of a 3rd party

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140472.msg1511184#msg1511184

If you paid Tom by credit card, get a replacement card issued.

Good call and good lookin' out, repentence!

[SgtSpike]

Is the police responsible to investigate when they get a notice about a large scale fraud or is selling a product, get paid with a non-standard currency and never deliver anything legal in the US? Will there be an official investigation?

I doubt local police would get involved, but an agency like the SEC might if the value is large enough.  I don't think it matters whether that value is in USD or not.

I may have to beg to differ on this, SS.

I'm sure we've all seen, heard, read, etc., accounts of scams taking place via phone, now net, preying mainly on the elderly, but other demographics apply. The local paper does a little write-up on said scams, advising its citizens to contact the local police department, anonymously, if anybody has information. There hope is to nap the guy(s)/gal(s) before further damage is done in the respected community.

Likewise, if you see a theft committed of some other person, the police will not decide to not investigate because it's not your property at stake. Furthermore, if you know of a person who has stolen property, even though it's not your property, you're obligated to inform the police department. This is true even if the thief hasn't yet been reported, let alone not yet in the court systems, regardless of what jurisdiction the items were stolen from. In this case, it's documented and trackable wealth stolen from citizens from across the globe.

An example, to possibly drive the point home. I go to Indiana and visit a fellow Bitcoiner. During the visit, I stealing something from his home he yet has discovered missing. Back in Illinois, another fellow Bitcoiner visits my home and somehow notices that I have stolen property in my possession belonging to the other Bitcoiner in Indiana. The Bitcoiner in Indiana is now currently on safari in Africa, and will remain out of pocket for at least a couple more months. Meanwhile, it's a known fact, I'm moving soon.

Given the above, the Bitcoiner who visited my home is obligated to contact the police, stating his case. At this point, the police may take possession of said stolen item, informing me that I will get it back once the safari guy returns and proves that this is all a misunderstanding. No real harm for all parties occurred, and all are protected.

In Tom's case, the proof is overwhelming, and for the police not to act accordingly would not bode well for their department.

Bottom line, real wealth was transferred via wire under false pretense, and the scam is continuing to this day, but now incorporating identity theft, a felony.

To me, if convicted, Tom Van Riper may not see his children grow up, and all the college degrees he's earned would be for naught. Now, imagine being in his shoes. You think you pulled the perfect crime, but compounded it, and now you're scared to death. Personally, if I pulled such a stunt, not a single family member would come to my rescue, regardless of what I may have done for them in the past. I can't see anybody having 100% support from their family if they pulled such a ruse.

Tom Van Riper is not in a happy place now, for he inevitable knows that his perhaps once good name is forever tarnished.

~Bruno K~

Thanks for begging to differ - I've learned something new. 

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Anyone have any ideas (estimates) on how much Tom might still owe out to people in dollars? or bitcoins?

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