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June 18, 2016, 06:38:56 AM
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Poor people and small businesses rely on cash. A contactless system will likely entrench poverty and pave the way for terrifying levels of surveillance

http://www.theguardian.com/money/commentisfree/2016/mar/21/fear-cashless-world-contactless

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In  a cashless world people will become slaves of the technology and if the system crashes,billions of dollars

could dissapear.People still need paper money and paper money are still useful.

Bitcoin can be printed and used as paper money.That`s not a problem  Smiley

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June 18, 2016, 07:50:26 AM
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A cashless world would never happen. Governments of countries would never let this happen. Bitcoin is one of the worst things for them. If bitcoin doesn't give them any benefits, then they are just going to stick with fiat.
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June 18, 2016, 07:57:35 AM
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Poor people and small businesses rely on cash. A contactless system will likely entrench poverty and pave the way for terrifying levels of surveillance

http://www.theguardian.com/money/commentisfree/2016/mar/21/fear-cashless-world-contactless

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In  a cashless world people will become slaves of the technology and if the system crashes,billions of dollars

could dissapear.People still need paper money and paper money are still useful.

Bitcoin can be printed and used as paper money.That`s not a problem  Smiley
Cash means total financial inclusion. Without financial inclusion you are trapped in poverty. Small businesses starting out need the cash economy. Poor people need the cash economy.
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June 18, 2016, 09:55:47 AM
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where i live now , like 90% use card to pay for everything , to be honest its been years since i had cash in my hand. only using my card for everything.
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June 18, 2016, 10:15:28 AM
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A cashless world would never happen. Governments of countries would never let this happen. Bitcoin is one of the worst things for them. If bitcoin doesn't give them any benefits, then they are just going to stick with fiat.

Governments are the ones who are pushing for a cashless world. A cashless world doesn't mean bitcoin. It means that all transactions are conducted through banking channels and there is no leakage in tax revenue.
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June 18, 2016, 11:24:16 AM
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A cashless world would never happen. Governments of countries would never let this happen. Bitcoin is one of the worst things for them. If bitcoin doesn't give them any benefits, then they are just going to stick with fiat.

Governments are the ones who are pushing for a cashless world. A cashless world doesn't mean bitcoin. It means that all transactions are conducted through banking channels and there is no leakage in tax revenue.
Yeah you are right, but they want to comply us with the tax laws as they want to charge tax in every transactions that we will make. That is true because if they are really with cashless world then they should adopt bitcoins and it is decentralized and will guarantee to be more transparent.

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June 18, 2016, 11:32:12 AM
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Poor people and small businesses rely on cash. A contactless system will likely entrench poverty and pave the way for terrifying levels of surveillance

http://www.theguardian.com/money/commentisfree/2016/mar/21/fear-cashless-world-contactless

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We should fear a cashless world because if you need it in emergency you cant use it in other place, because many store, hospital, and supermarket didnt accept bitcoin. In reality many establishment rely on cash and thats the disadvantage of bitcoin you cant pay it if you need it. You need to convert before you use it. So for me if wholeworld accept bitcoin is the best, because i can use bitcoin directly.
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June 18, 2016, 02:11:12 PM
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A cashless world would never happen. Governments of countries would never let this happen. Bitcoin is one of the worst things for them. If bitcoin doesn't give them any benefits, then they are just going to stick with fiat.

Governments are the ones who are pushing for a cashless world. A cashless world doesn't mean bitcoin. It means that all transactions are conducted through banking channels and there is no leakage in tax revenue.

This. It is about surveillance and keeping tabs on what people spend their money on and finding opportunities to tax them.

 
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June 18, 2016, 02:19:27 PM
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A cashless world would never happen. Governments of countries would never let this happen. Bitcoin is one of the worst things for them. If bitcoin doesn't give them any benefits, then they are just going to stick with fiat.

Governments are the ones who are pushing for a cashless world. A cashless world doesn't mean bitcoin. It means that all transactions are conducted through banking channels and there is no leakage in tax revenue.

That is the worst can happen to us, banks controlling us and robbing us more than that they are already doing. Bitcoin is an answer to this but still isn't enough , at least is helping us to evade quite some taxes, in my country online earnings are not taxable as its not known as a legit way of revenue, so Bitcoin has helped me a lot in this way, what I win in bitcoin is 100% mine and the same when I withdraw in cash.
Bitcoin and FIAT can't do without each other at this stage, who knows what can happen next for the moment, cashless world is not possible.
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June 18, 2016, 02:20:26 PM
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A cashless world would never happen. Governments of countries would never let this happen. Bitcoin is one of the worst things for them. If bitcoin doesn't give them any benefits, then they are just going to stick with fiat.

Governments are the ones who are pushing for a cashless world. A cashless world doesn't mean bitcoin. It means that all transactions are conducted through banking channels and there is no leakage in tax revenue.

This. It is about surveillance and keeping tabs on what people spend their money on and finding opportunities to tax them.
This is why I can never see a cashless world being willfully implemented by the people; too many people know this stuff already and simply wouldn't go through with having every move of their money tracked. I know I wouldn't, anyways, but that might not be representative of the majority.

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June 18, 2016, 02:52:16 PM
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A cashless world would never happen. Governments of countries would never let this happen. Bitcoin is one of the worst things for them. If bitcoin doesn't give them any benefits, then they are just going to stick with fiat.

true. but people like us will always keep using. so it better sit side by side.

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June 18, 2016, 03:41:04 PM
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I don't think we will be cashless for a very ling time if ever. It's too hard to switch over quickly. I see cash and electronic money transfers working together for a very long time.

 
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June 19, 2016, 12:16:48 AM
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Poor people and small businesses rely on cash. A contactless system will likely entrench poverty and pave the way for terrifying levels of surveillance

http://www.theguardian.com/money/commentisfree/2016/mar/21/fear-cashless-world-contactless

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Mainly, be worried about decreasing interest rates that cause whatever money you have to plummet in value, making it extremely difficult to get rid of and even break even, fluctuations can be extremely good, but if you're not careful can ruin you
Also, every single transaction you make will be logged, and stored on your account with data about you attatched, if you're deemed a bad person in society every single thing you own or have bought can be tracked, and shut down with ease

 
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June 19, 2016, 12:24:22 AM
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You realize using a debit card or whatever is digital just like using Bitcoin? Except they know who's wallet is who's because of the information tied to your bank account. A cashless world will never exist because we could theoretically use Bitcoin as "cash". Only it is digital cash so you need to do the payment wallet to wallet. I see no problem in the future to be honest and cash will always exist because it has to.
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June 19, 2016, 06:58:50 AM
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Cashless world? Well

Bad effect- fraudster will be many and hacking issue will rise knowing no system is safe all are breachable depends on skill level of hacker, and also its very hard trust it because all people want to hold some cash and i think it would be safer if we can touch it.

Good effects- we can easily do transaction with digital moneys, we can get less payment if we send anywhere in the globe And lastly we cannot fell heavy metal on our pocket when walking Smiley


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June 19, 2016, 07:02:29 AM
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Obviously there is a lot of cash circling the economy right now. To be able to go to cashless all that would have to be shredded and destroyed, right? I think that alone could take decades but then again maybe if we live in tyranny then the government would just be a dictator and declare that stores can not accept cash anymore as a form of debt payment. That would lead to a revolution though Grin
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June 19, 2016, 11:07:01 AM
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Poor people and small businesses rely on cash. A contactless system will likely entrench poverty and pave the way for terrifying levels of surveillance

http://www.theguardian.com/money/commentisfree/2016/mar/21/fear-cashless-world-contactless

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In  a cashless world people will become slaves of the technology and if the system crashes,billions of dollars

could dissapear.People still need paper money and paper money are still useful.

Bitcoin can be printed and used as paper money.That`s not a problem  Smiley
Yes bitcoin paper money will become useful, however other fellow citizen it could rise a confusion and people who doesn't know BTC would feel ignorant, and could rise a problem having said that as for the title says simple some folks could came up with something new and ignorant would be entertained by them that is the beginning and the end.

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June 20, 2016, 06:38:35 AM
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Well I think that a cashless world happening wouldn't be possible for now. I think it wouldn't be possible for now because many people uses paper cash to pay for services and goods.

Yeah that's right many people didn't know about bitcoin so it's hard as of now to replace physical currency with digital (bitcoin). But, i think that there is a possibility that bitcoin will be use as main currency if many people will get into bitcoin so the bitcoin will attract more people and bitcoin will be more famous than before.
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June 20, 2016, 07:42:11 AM
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A cashless society is giving complete control over to the bankers.

When implemented (which will happen sooner rather than later) you can expect the following -

1) Negative interest rates - spend your money or watch the balance shrink daily

2) Bail in's - Laws already in place, you are classed as an investor in the bank.  When the bank folds you loose your cash.

3) No more bank runs due to point 2 as there is no longer any physical money to withdraw.

4) Every transaction you make is logged and audited.

5) Not classed as a "good" citizen, they will freeze your account leaving you destitute instantly.


AZll of your points are bullshit i dont think we should fear a cashless world nobody could llife without cash cash has become the most important thing on these planet you can say that is not true but think and you will know it is .
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June 20, 2016, 07:59:35 AM
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A cashless world would never happen. Governments of countries would never let this happen. Bitcoin is one of the worst things for them. If bitcoin doesn't give them any benefits, then they are just going to stick with fiat.

Governments are the ones who are pushing for a cashless world. A cashless world doesn't mean bitcoin. It means that all transactions are conducted through banking channels and there is no leakage in tax revenue.
That can be bad because there are still a lot of people that dont even know what Bitcoin is and that is the problem and you see of course now that Bitcoin is becoming more worth.
And it will be nice if Bitcoin will be more used but that is hard to know.
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