BLOCKS ARE FULL!!!!

[rizzlarolla]

it is full for a while already and everyone knows that but this problem soon should be solved with the rise of the block size

lets hope the fees wont get much higher before that as it would surely make some people to stop using bitcoin for a while and it wouldnt be good for the price of bitcoin

Rise in block size soon? good luck with that.
That is a different thread.

To make people stop using bitcoin, fees will start rising any time now.
As I said, there will not be room for everyone in the block no matter what fee you pay.

[calkob]

Listen like i just said on another post, there is to much invested in bitcoin to fail, and to many cleaver minds working on it for it not to be resolved, now is the time for us all to double down and get bitcoin back on track..... im away to buy some more... 

[rizzlarolla]

i've experienced an unusual delay for a small amount that i received, and i don't believe in the "we are under ddos bullshit" again, so yes some blocks are definitely full

There is no ddos attack.

Many are full. That ok.
But very soon, if growth continues as we hope, then blocks will be proper full, then over full. Then you may start getting more serious delays.
(higher fees may not even get your tx confirmed then, if everyone starts paying higher fees, there simply will not be room)

Lauda says blocks are only 70% full. But empty blocks will sometimes be mined no matter how large the block size.
(that reduces "average" block capacity in effect, which is what Lauda refers to)
So we will never get very near to "100% full blocks", even when the mempool is at max capacity and beyond.

Expect delayed tx times from now on.

And how are we able to solve this problem?
Or do we have no power as members of the bitcoin industry?

I know there are some smart guys that are discussing these topics, but who actually decides what is going to happen with bitcoin?
And the people that make decision, do they decide the best possible option, or only the best outcome for theirselfs?

Oh, wow. Where you been hiding?
That is about 10 different threads...

(but mainly 1 topic...) Core v Classic. Prepare to be bombarded.
(Then your supposed to take sides, then turn off brain, then dig trenches, then insult everyone with any slight difference of opinion or free thought)

[Meuh6879]

[Amph]

i've experienced an unusual delay for a small amount that i received, and i don't believe in the "we are under ddos bullshit" again, so yes some blocks are definitely full

There is no ddos attack.

Many are full. That ok.
But very soon, if growth continues as we hope, then blocks will be proper full, then over full. Then you may start getting more serious delays.
(higher fees may not even get your tx confirmed then, if everyone starts paying higher fees, there simply will not be room)

Lauda says blocks are only 70% full. But empty blocks will sometimes be mined no matter how large the block size.
(that reduces "average" block capacity in effect, which is what Lauda refers to)
So we will never get very near to "100% full blocks", even when the mempool is at max capacity and beyond.

Expect delayed tx times from now on.

it was with higher fee in fact and every sub transactions was with high fee also, so it must have been caused by a full block

also waiting fro the block to be 100% full before moving our asses is what i call negligence

[rizzlarolla]

I agree. Negligent.

Last 6 blocks

974
0
965
974
974
0

Either full or empty.
100% (average) full is not achievable.

[Nimbulan]

I agree. Negligent.

Last 6 blocks

974
0
965
974
974
0

Either full or empty.
100% (average) full is not achievable.

yes it is not achievable but those near full blocks mean that some of the transactions might not get confirmed if they are with lower fees

we surely have to do something in order to lift the size of the block as the fees might increase significantly if the blocks will keep on going full

[SebastianJu]

I think it is pretty clear that this thread never was meant serious. The suggestion of adding nonsense on the blockchain was pretty clear. As well as a newbie account with this stupid language.

This or it's a kid.


rizzlarolla

So we will never get very near to "100% full blocks", even when the mempool is at max capacity and beyond.

Expect delayed tx times from now on.

Convenient that the blocks can't get full 100% in average, I guess.

Though in fact blocks are full pretty often at certain times of the day. It doesn't help you that you get told that sometimes in the night there are blocks that are not full. Bitcoin is supposed to be fast. But it's losing it's advantages against established payment forms pretty fast.

Speed? Goes away. Low fees? Go away in the same speed.

[Lauda]

I agree. Negligent.
Last 6 blocks
...

Either full or empty.
100% (average) full is not achievable.

Near 100% is achievable. This just shows us that the blocks are not full. The correct thing to say would be something in the lines of: "Some blocks are full." or "The average block size is nearing 1 MB.". Miners need to be called out on these empty blocks; they need to stop.

Oh, wow. Where you been hiding? That is about 10 different threads...(but mainly 1 topic...) Core v Classic. Prepare to be bombarded.

Classic is just XT 2.0 apparently, not much better. However, you need to understand that some people don't like to waste their time in such discussions.

(Then your supposed to take sides, then turn off brain, then dig trenches, then insult everyone with any slight difference of opinion or free thought)

Please no; we already have too many people doing this.

[btcxyzzz]

Best you can do is change currency, litecoin has a pretty stable value.

Telling people to switch to completely dead coin is kind of... bad. Monero or Ethereum, safest bets in crypto-space right now.

[pedrog]

Best you can do is change currency, litecoin has a pretty stable value.

Telling people to switch to completely dead coin is kind of... bad. Monero or Ethereum, safest bets in crypto-space right now.

That's why I said litecoin, it's old, it's boring, it's quite stable, I don't think people should invest in the the fad of the month, Monero or Ethereum, specially now the price is highly inflated.

[rizzlarolla]

I agree. Negligent.

Last 6 blocks

974
0
965
974
974
0

Either full or empty.
100% (average) full is not achievable.

Now last 6 blocks produced in 20 miniutes. (3x quicker than expected, producing 4mb in 20 min, 2x expected mb)
That helps keep blocks not full.

The hash rate wont always be spiking. Miner wont always get so lucky.
When miners get unlucky, 6 blocks can just as easily take 3 hours. (3x slower than expected, producing 6mb in 3 h, 3x less expected mb)

[adamstgBit]

I agree. Negligent.

Last 6 blocks

974
0
965
974
974
0

Either full or empty.
100% (average) full is not achievable.

Now last 6 blocks produced in 20 miniutes. (3x quicker than expected, producing 4mb in 20 min, 2x expected mb)
That helps keep blocks not full.

The hash rate wont always be spiking. Miner wont always get so lucky.
When miners get unlucky, 6 blocks can just as easily take 3 hours. (3x slower than expected, producing 6mb in 3 h, 3x less expected mb)

just wait till reward halfs and hash rate starts going down.
we are in for some serious delays

[maokoto]

For (many) months people have been saying blocks are full, will soon be full, or things will collapse soon. BTC continues working normally ever since.

[adamstgBit]

https://blockchain.info/block/0000000000000000044cc1a682a5f947fd8489a8337765ab226c6f878f641d79

the avg TX fee pre TX on this block is 8cents

[rizzlarolla]

I agree. Negligent.

Last 6 blocks

974
0
965
974
974
0

Either full or empty.
100% (average) full is not achievable.

Now last 6 blocks produced in 20 miniutes. (3x quicker than expected, producing 4mb in 20 min, 2x expected mb)
That helps keep blocks not full.

The hash rate wont always be spiking. Miner wont always get so lucky.
When miners get unlucky, 6 blocks can just as easily take 3 hours. (3x slower than expected, producing 6mb in 3 h, 3x less expected mb)

just wait till reward halfs and hash rate starts going down.
we are in for some serious delays

I'm not sure the hash rate will go down.
But maybe. Core are standing by to meddle with the difficulty if that happens, to save us from tx gridlock.

(but tx gridlock is predictably coming much sooner than that anyway)

[ivanst776]

Anyone know how long are transactions taking just now? I withdrew bitcoin from an exchange a few hours ago and still no sign of it at all.

I did transactions from some exchange to my Core wallet recently, and minutes after confirming my withdraw, it appeared on my wallet as unconfirmed, so I had to do is wait. After a while, I had a couple of confirmations and the BTC was added to my final amount.

I don't know what the hell you guys are doing to have so many problems. Just pay a decent fee and wait for it, it's not like you are going to lose the money.

The exchange set the fee not me, i had no control over that ! 

Anyway, seemed to take longer than usual but its in my wallet now happy to report.

when you use offline wallets then you can't control your transaction fee. same situation happening with me.. but when we use bitcoin core I think bitcoin core give this facility to set a transiction fee by ourselves..

[RealBitcoin]

Is the OP a troll or he is really that dumb, please enlighten me.

It seems like he is just kidding, but its hard to tell on the internet.

[Kakmakr]

good idea at least gold can't be mucked around with by a bunch of preteens this will not work you canth trust anyone to make this work without governance otherwise pepil will jump ship to another alt and when that alt gets preteened they will jump to another alt and alther alt and alther alt it hurts just thinking about the mess and will cause instability its time... its time for me to get out now i dont feel comfortable with my holdings leaden by a bunch of preteens that take 2 years to solve a problem because of the testosterone proving grounds

What are you going on about? Developers are far from being preteens and they are doing a fine job at protecting your investment. The restricted block size is there for a reason, and bumping it up to allow for videos and funny pics, would be preteen behavior. Keep the block size at manageable sizes and you will protect it from spam attacks and you will also make it easier for people to store that data. If block sizes were increased to allow for videos and funny pics, much less people would be able to run full nodes, and this function will have to be handled by centralized data centers. < This will harm decentralization >

Do your homework and research next time, and post something that makes sense. ^hmmmm^

[Risackwpsp]

when the block size will be changed?