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February 05, 2013, 09:50:17 PM
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http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/future_tense/2013/02/silent_circle_s_latest_app_democratizes_encryption_governments_won_t_be.html

Will this be as revolutionary as the article claims?

Will this be useful for Bitcoiners?
(You could hide the fact that you were making a trade or deal using Bitcoin and nobody would know your Bitcoin address except you and your trade partner.)

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February 05, 2013, 09:57:10 PM
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http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/future_tense/2013/02/silent_circle_s_latest_app_democratizes_encryption_governments_won_t_be.html

Will this be as revolutionary as the article claims?

Will this be useful for Bitcoiners?
(You could hide the fact that you were making a trade or deal using Bitcoin and nobody would know your Bitcoin address except you and your trade partner.)


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February 05, 2013, 10:05:33 PM
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I think the author must have never used encryption before in his life, or it is possible this was a paid advertisement (unless I'm grossly missing something in his technology that the author failed to mention).

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February 05, 2013, 11:02:55 PM
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http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/future_tense/2013/02/silent_circle_s_latest_app_democratizes_encryption_governments_won_t_be.html

Will this be as revolutionary as the article claims?

Will this be useful for Bitcoiners?
(You could hide the fact that you were making a trade or deal using Bitcoin and nobody would know your Bitcoin address except you and your trade partner.)

Even if they are legit, they are selling something probably already invented.
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February 06, 2013, 12:07:14 AM
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While encryption is widely known, the practice of encrypting text messages is virtually unheard of by the public.  There's a huge gap to bridge and somebody's gotta do it!

People are plenty familiar with how to send a text message.  Nobody has a clue how they'd ever go about sending one securely.  In an ideal world, people should be familiar with how to scan a QR off the screen of someone they just met in person, facilitating a key exchange for future secure communications.  Nobody seems to have any freaking clue this is even possible.

The back of people's business cards are blank.  It's a travesty that it's not STANDARD for the back of a business card to have a scannable QR of one's public key (or a URI to say where to get it and a hash to verify it), and for everyone to not know what it's for and why it's there.

So while I know very little about this app, the fact that there's such a wide gap between what the public knows is possible, and what really is possible, is kindling for something revolutionary all in and of itself.  I will bet that the reason the mobile phone companies don't make this kind of functionality standard is that there'd be repercussions if they did.  It most definitely isn't "too hard".

Companies claiming they got hacked and lost your coins sounds like fraud so perfect it could be called fashionable.  I never believe them.  If I ever experience the misfortune of a real intrusion, I declare I have been honest about the way I have managed the keys in Casascius Coins.  I maintain no ability to recover or reproduce the keys, not even under limitless duress or total intrusion.  Remember that trusting strangers with your coins without any recourse is, as a matter of principle, not a best practice.  Don't keep coins online. Use paper or hardware wallets instead.
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February 06, 2013, 12:08:27 AM
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I wonder if Silent Circle has ever heard of Cryptocat (http://bitcoinmagazine.com/review-of-cryptocat/)

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February 06, 2013, 12:52:30 AM
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"it has an explicit policy that it cannot and will not comply with law enforcement eavesdropping requests."

Yes that will go over well. Also charging $20 a month is not enticing for the general public.

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February 06, 2013, 07:58:41 AM
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For encrypted voice/video/chat, use Jitsi or RetroShare on your computer.  Pidgin has a plugin that can do encrypted chat, but no voice.  I like Jitsi.  I can just chat with people over googletalk and it's really easy for my friends to install and configure.

For Android there is Gibberbot

For Iphone there is ChatSecure.

You don't need to pay $20/month for SilentCircle.  This is plenty of open source software.  Use it.

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February 06, 2013, 10:08:52 AM
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For encrypted voice/video/chat, use Jitsi or RetroShare on your computer.  Pidgin has a plugin that can do encrypted chat, but no voice.  I like Jitsi.  I can just chat with people over googletalk and it's really easy for my friends to install and configure.

For Android there is Gibberbot

For Iphone there is ChatSecure.

You don't need to pay $20/month for SilentCircle.  This is plenty of open source software.  Use it.

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February 06, 2013, 08:19:35 PM
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This is made by Phil Zimmermann - Look it up. Also Wikipedia Profile

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February 06, 2013, 09:02:41 PM
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I wonder if Silent Circle has ever heard of Cryptocat (http://bitcoinmagazine.com/review-of-cryptocat/)
..or BitMessage, or torchat, ...

Gods sent us a powerful tool - cryptography - to fight with those who are trying to exploit us. USE IT!!
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May 12, 2013, 03:38:57 PM
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For encrypted voice/video/chat, use Jitsi or RetroShare on your computer.  Pidgin has a plugin that can do encrypted chat, but no voice.  I like Jitsi.  I can just chat with people over googletalk and it's really easy for my friends to install and configure.

For Android there is Gibberbot

For Iphone there is ChatSecure.

You don't need to pay $20/month for SilentCircle.  This is plenty of open source software.  Use it.

ChatSecure now accepts bitcoin
https://chatsecure.org/

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May 12, 2013, 06:15:23 PM
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Yet another "one-click-app" rip-off to pump money from ignorant users.

Orbot, Gibberbot, CSipSimple are trusted free opensource apps which provide you with complete encryption of text and voice communication on Android.

iPhone is not suitable for private communication at all because their terms of service prohibit third party open source chat clients to use encryption as it may "violate" US export restrictions Smiley

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