Dooglus is supporting ponzis

[Quickseller]

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3420

What happened:: In October 2015 Dooglus edited code for a ponzi script in order to fix some bugs with said ponzi script.

Reference Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1216193.0;all (archive), https://github.com/dooglus/CryptoPonzi (archive) and https://github.com/dooglus/CryptoPonzi/branches (archive)

It seems that some people feel that "supporting" a ponzi in any way is considered to be scamming, and editing code for a ponzi certainly would fall under the category of "supporting" a ponzi.

Even more people are strongly against the sale of ponzi scripts and the advertising of a ponzi in their signature, which is very similar to the benefits that dooglus has provided.

Additional Notes: The ponzi in question claims to be "risk free" because if not enough people continue to "invest" in the ponzi that you will receive returns via POS staking, however this is simply not true because the CLAMs you send to the ponzi will be used to payout previous "investors" leaving nothing to stake. This means that not only was dooglus supporting a ponzi, but he was supporting a ponzi that was dishonest about the risks involved in "playing" such ponzi.


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The only reason I was even looking at the script was because Klye was having problems with it. As I understood it, he was marketing his Ponzi truthfully and not attempting to steal anything from anyone. From what I've heard nobody other than Klye himself ended up out of pocket from using that script.

It seems that dooglus has admitted to knowing that the name of the operator of the ponzi in question is "Kyle" which also happens to be the name of MRKLYE. I believe that dooglus may have known that MYKYLE was behind the ponzi in question when he was helping with the code of the script in question.

Amount Scammed: unknown/TBD/may possibly increase in the future

This completes the first part of my series of the transgressions of Dooglus
Part 1: Dooglus supporting ponzis  

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[Joel_Jantsen]

Well...people have gotten Negative Feedback's for writing scripts for Ponzi's (example BSM) which is considered equally punishable under the DT's laws.CryotoDevil who's a DT under Dooglus takes the initiative of negging ponzi users which is a good thing.Not sure how to reach to the above situation .

[Quickseller]

Well...people have gotten Negative Feedback's for writing scripts for Ponzi's (example BSM) which is considered equally punishable under the DT's laws.CryotoDevil who's a DT under Dooglus takes the initiative of negging ponzi users which is a good thing.Not sure how to reach to the above situation .

If you agree that negative feedback is appropriate for those that write scripts for ponzis then I would suggest that you leave dooglus a negative trust rating.

Since you generally need to trust those who are in your trust network (to a certain extent), I would also suggest that you exclude dooglus from your trust network by adding the following to your trust list:

Code:

~dooglus

[MRKLYE]

Well, First off that clam ponzi was run by a member other than dooglus. You're sort of grasping at straws..

If memory serves me correctly dooglus had helped the operator of that site with a security hole in his script.
dooglus never profited nor endorsed the ponzi from my knowledge, nor did anyone lose any money on the game.

Also looking back on that ponzi and it's design their was no way for anyone to lose money due to CLAM's high rate of POS.
And, If I recall correctly, Before the ponzi was shut down everyone got paid out what they were due out of the owners pocket.

Additional Notes: Any amount of clam no matter how trivial has a chance to stake.. SO your point on your additional note isn't valid.


P.S. Going after people on this forum that have been proven trustworthy with over 60M worth of bitcoin for giving a buddy a hand with some code is pure fucking faggotry, and you need to spend your time working on your own obvious personality flaws before witch hunting others seller.
Slandering others doesn't make you more credible, It just makes you look like an upset child.

[dooglus]

What happened:: In October 2015 Dooglus edited code for a ponzi script in order to fix some bugs with said ponzi script.

OMG. Dooglus fixes bugs. Such a surprise. The script was already available to everyone, in use in the wild, and malfunctioning badly. I fixed a couple of bugs in it so it would malfunction less badly. It still sucks.

What do you do other than attempt to stir up trouble and lie to people?

[MRKLYE]

What do you do other than attempt to stir up trouble and lie to people?

I heard he's great at escrow services doog. 

[dooglus]

Well, First off that clam ponzi was run by a member other than dooglus. You're sort of grasping at straws..

That's because there's nothing other than "straws" for him to grasp at.

He's trying to make it look like I support Ponzis because I saw a bug and fixed it. That's what I do - I see stuff that's wrong (like idiots telling lies on the forum) and try to put it right (by correcting them). Sometimes they get butthurt and "grasp at straws" for years afterwards. But nobody pays them any attention.

There's no evidence of me "supporting" your Ponzi, because I never did. It was always a bad idea.

As I told you at the time, that script is crap, and the concept of attempting to pay the required exponentially increasing returns from staking rewards is fundamentally broken. But you figured that out for yourself eventually.

I heard he's great at escrow services doog. 

I heard he has a history of pretending to be multiple different people so he can escrow his own deals.

And we're meant to take him seriously? 

[Quickseller]

What happened:: In October 2015 Dooglus edited code for a ponzi script in order to fix some bugs with said ponzi script.

OMG. Dooglus fixes bugs. Such a surprise. The script was already available to everyone, in use in the wild, and malfunctioning badly. I fixed a couple of bugs in it so it would malfunction less badly. It still sucks.

What do you do other than attempt to stir up trouble and lie to people?

The scripts sole purpose was to run a ponzi. There are no other potential uses for the script in question. It was forked multiple times and apparently had previously been fairly widely used by ponzis in the past. By editing the code in the script, you were fixing a problem that various ponzis were (potentially) having, allowing them to potentially build a stronger sense of legitimacy and eventually end up stealing a greater amount of other people's money.

What lie have I said in this thread? Please point it out to me. If you can successfully find a lie written by me in the OP of this thread then I might even payout a bug bounty extortion to you

[RayBrady]

Wrong section, dooglus did not scam anyone.

[Quickseller]

Additional Notes: Any amount of clam no matter how trivial has a chance to stake.. SO your point on your additional note isn't valid.

It has a chance to stake, however the chance is not very high with small amounts of CLAM in a wallet/address.

P.S. Going after people on this forum that have been proven trustworthy with over 60M worth of bitcoin for giving a buddy a hand with some code is pure fucking faggotry,

Oh, so just because someone has been trusted with a lot of money in the past, they should be given a free pass in being able to do whatever they want in the future....you should vote for Hilary.

Slandering others doesn't make you more credible, It just makes you look like an upset child.

Slander? What have I said here that is incorrect? Please point it out

[TECSHARE]

Get a life Quickseller.

[MRKLYE]

Additional Notes: Any amount of clam no matter how trivial has a chance to stake.. SO your point on your additional note isn't valid.

It has a chance to stake, however the chance is not very high with small amounts of CLAM in a wallet/address.

P.S. Going after people on this forum that have been proven trustworthy with over 60M worth of bitcoin for giving a buddy a hand with some code is pure fucking faggotry,

Oh, so just because someone has been trusted with a lot of money in the past, they should be given a free pass in being able to do whatever they want in the future....you should vote for Hilary.

Slandering others doesn't make you more credible, It just makes you look like an upset child.

Slander? What have I said here that is incorrect? Please point it out

The answer to all of the above:

I don't have time to hold your hand and explain to you the finer points of logic and thinking at the moment, you obviously need a new hobby other than trying to cause a commotion on the internet, because if you think we'll forget how much of a turd in the punch bowl you are if you accuse everyone else of being shit you are sadly mistaken.

[CryptoDatabase]

What happened:: In October 2015 Dooglus edited code for a ponzi script in order to fix some bugs with said ponzi script.

OMG. Dooglus fixes bugs. Such a surprise. The script was already available to everyone, in use in the wild, and malfunctioning badly. I fixed a couple of bugs in it so it would malfunction less badly. It still sucks.

What do you do other than attempt to stir up trouble and lie to people?

What you are saying is that it is okay to support ponzies as long as you only fix their code as well as provide it for everyone to use and modify for their own intents?

People on DT constantly neg users here, especially new users, for even posting in a thread that has the word ponzi in it. They are, and have been, setting an example for folks that its not okay to even talk about them much less help them with their code. There are several threads here where every single poster in a ponzi thread has been negged by DT members.

Seems a bit two faced that this doesn't apply to everyone. As much as I think Quickseller is a shady shit I agree with him here.

By you fixing their code, and still providing it to this day, for others to use to scam people with is still you supporting ponzis regardless of your intent.

No ponzi or business online or offline contains 0 risk. I could easily download it from your github, gain a large amount of deposits, then fuck off with the funds just as easily as Billy Joe Bob Jackson down the street could without modifying a thing on it.

[SaltySpitoon]

Each person has their own philosophy on ponzis, but this is the scam accusation section. Unless you are claiming that Dooglus is directly involved in a ponzi that has already scammed people, this is the wrong section. I'd move the thread to reputation or something similar, but I'll leave it to you for a while to either make an accusation that would support this thread being in scam accusation, or move it.

I guess if we are trying to get rid of the philosophy of ponzis, and get straight to the question, does Dooglus owe anyone money?

[suchmoon]

I think I'm missing something essential here. Where did dooglus support the ponzi? Got a link to that? The thread you linked to says quite the contrary:

https://archive.is/GJAt4#selection-5773.0-5773.105

Please refrain from associating my name with this project in an attempt to give it feelings of legitimacy.

This completes the first part of my series of the transgressions of Dooglus
Part 1: Dooglus supporting ponzis  [/url]

You should do a Netflix and post it all at once for binge trolling.

Fix the url tag.

[MRKLYE]

I guess if we are trying to get rid of the philosophy of ponzis, and get straight to the question, does Dooglus owe anyone money?

Nope, I believe that the operator of that ponzi actually paid everyone out that had remaining payouts before he closed it down.

Seller is just trying to be a shit disturber from what I can see. Just like any other day on the forums here really.  

[whywefight]

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3420

What happened:: In October 2015 Dooglus edited code for a ponzi script in order to fix some bugs with said ponzi script.

Reference Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1216193.0;all (archive), https://github.com/dooglus/CryptoPonzi (archive) and https://github.com/dooglus/CryptoPonzi/branches (archive)

It seems that some people feel that "supporting" a ponzi in any way is considered to be scamming, and editing code for a ponzi certainly would fall under the category of "supporting" a ponzi.

Even more people are strongly against the sale of ponzi scripts and the advertising of a ponzi in their signature, which is very similar to the benefits that dooglus has provided.

Additional Notes: The ponzi in question claims to be "risk free" because if not enough people continue to "invest" in the ponzi that you will receive returns via POS staking, however this is simply not true because the CLAMs you send to the ponzi will be used to payout previous "investors" leaving nothing to stake. This means that not only was dooglus supporting a ponzi, but he was supporting a ponzi that was dishonest about the risks involved in "playing" such ponzi.

This completes the first part of my series of the transgressions of Dooglus
Part 1: Dooglus supporting ponzis  [/url]

As far as i know (assuming the topic would be still a live) a PSA would be posted and everyone advertising or supporting the ponzi after that will be tagged. Thats how CD does it and its posted here how it works.

So the main question for me is now: Is this topic about supporting the fight against ponzis or is this a gathering of some old fags that are butthurt for whatever reasons, throwing dirt at each other. If its the second thing then: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRBs_F74Nek

In addition: How about working on the current problems instead of dragging out personal bitchfights in public? Well, everybody is free to start where ever he wants...

Want me to post an PSA in that thread??

[alani123]

I think that this is a little pretentious. Don't get me wrong, it's ok to discuss people's actions and question their reputation but why is this scam accusation submitted by someone that wasn't scammed? Dooglus was very clear about what he was developing. I'd say that by being in the crypto space for so long one should have grown some tolerance for the mere existence of financial schemes and activities that would have been unacceptable in most other occasions. There are just so many and in this case it seems to me as though Quickseller is trying to dig out old and now irrelevant information to damage dooglus. I don't know why that is though, maybe it boils down to a personal conflict without anything overly serious at stake.

[CryptoDatabase]

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3420

What happened:: In October 2015 Dooglus edited code for a ponzi script in order to fix some bugs with said ponzi script.

Reference Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1216193.0;all (archive), https://github.com/dooglus/CryptoPonzi (archive) and https://github.com/dooglus/CryptoPonzi/branches (archive)

It seems that some people feel that "supporting" a ponzi in any way is considered to be scamming, and editing code for a ponzi certainly would fall under the category of "supporting" a ponzi.

Even more people are strongly against the sale of ponzi scripts and the advertising of a ponzi in their signature, which is very similar to the benefits that dooglus has provided.

Additional Notes: The ponzi in question claims to be "risk free" because if not enough people continue to "invest" in the ponzi that you will receive returns via POS staking, however this is simply not true because the CLAMs you send to the ponzi will be used to payout previous "investors" leaving nothing to stake. This means that not only was dooglus supporting a ponzi, but he was supporting a ponzi that was dishonest about the risks involved in "playing" such ponzi.

This completes the first part of my series of the transgressions of Dooglus
Part 1: Dooglus supporting ponzis  [/url]

As far as i know (assuming the topic would be still a live) a PSA would be posted and everyone advertising or supporting the ponzi after that will be tagged. Thats how CD does it and its posted here how it works.

So the main question for me is now: Is this topic about supporting the fight against ponzis or is this a gathering of some old fags that are butthurt for whatever reasons, throwing dirt at each other. If its the second thing then: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRBs_F74Nek

In addition: How about working on the current problems instead of dragging out personal bitchfights in public? Well, everybody is free to start where ever he wants...

Want me to post an PSA in that thread??

For QS it's more than likely a vendetta but he does bring up a good point.

With the current anti-ponzi view going on in the forum it looks really bad when someone who's voice seems to matter actively fixes and provides a ponzi script for download via their github.

It looks even worse when others who voices seem to matter as well chime in with support for doing this.

Personally I couldn't care less if people do whatever with ponzis as its a good lesson to those that get scammed to not do it again. Lessons learned are best done the hard way.

But if rules apply for some then they must apply to all.

[suchmoon]

I think that this is a little pretentious. Don't get me wrong, it's ok to discuss people's actions and question their reputation but why is this scam accusation submitted by someone that wasn't scammed? Dooglus was very clear about what he was developing. I'd say that by being in the crypto space for so long one should have grown some tolerance for the mere existence of financial schemes and activities that would have been unacceptable in most other occasions. There are just so many and in this case it seems to me as though Quickseller is trying to dig out old and now irrelevant information to damage dooglus. I don't know why that is though, maybe it boils down to a personal conflict without anything overly serious at stake.

There is obviously more to it, just quoting the most recent one:

I also don't think the forum is turning a blink eye towards Vod's abusive nature, nor his abusive trust ratings. Vod already has one exclusion and the only person on "level 1" in the DT network, dooglus is anticipated of being removed from DT -- I need to bother to gather the necessary evidence, and make the necessary arguments. BadBear has threatened to exclude Vod from his trust list on at least one occasion, and had (temporally) added one person to his trust list that really should not have been in his trust list who gave Vod a negative rating that was likely an effort to calm Vod down. Tomatocage was not happy with Vod's propensity to dox people that Vod does not like, and I have been told that BadBear does not like this either. I also believe that theymos used to have Vod in his trust list, which is not the case currently.