Will tip BTC for good info/suggestions on the hardware I'm about to buy

[Insuremeplz]

I'd also like to use this as my main computer, light gaming, word processing, school work type stuff. This will be my first computer I've built so I appreciate suggestions on if everything will work together, if things will stay cool enough, better GPU to buy (cant find 5830/50's) or anything else you can think of. I already have windows XP, keyboard, mouse. Do I need anything else? Include BTC address for tip.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151175

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811815006

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136073

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157243

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150523  (two of these)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256072

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231253

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103899


I'd also love to cut about $150 off this price, so if there's anywhere I can save costs without reducing performance too much I'd love suggestions. Thanks!

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[miningnew]

Why do you need a dvd drive?

and you can buy much cheaper CPU!!
You could boot from a usb disk

[Insuremeplz]

Why do you need a dvd drive?

and you can buy much cheaper CPU!!
You could boot from a usb disk

I'd like to use it as my main computer as well as a miner. Do you have a suggestion for a better priced CPU? I don't want to sacrifice performance too much and would like to be able to do light gaming and day to day uses.

[Meatball]

You can probably drop the CPU down a bit since there's not really a reason for Quad Core with what you're planning on doing.  You can probably go with either one of these, save yourself $80 and be fine.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103873

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103903

The other thing to be worried about is that case might be a bit too tight with those two cards.  It'll probably fit, but really cram stuff together.  Luckily your vid cards have the power pins on top, so that should be alright.

Those 6950's are pretty good and if you are a gambler, you could always flash them with a bios to unlock some of the extra shaders (don't do the 6970 bios flash, just find the 6950 shader unlock flash..)

[horrorshow]

6950 uses about 200w on its own, and that power supply is very weak, definitely dont recommend it:

Output
    +3.3V@25A, +5V@25A, +12V1@46A, +5VSB@2.5A, -12V@0.3A

Only one 12V rail, at 46Amps max. That is very low. You don't want all that hardware on one rail. Try and find one with at least 4 rails, maybe 18A each, try Antec 850W maybe?

This will keep your cards stable and your rig from blowing out with all that 24/7 load. Very important component.

[willphase]

I went though ebay completed sales and the comparison chart and found the 5870 was the best price/hash for me.  Bought two and mining at around 800Mh/s for 450W total including CPU/HD at the moment.

Good luck!

Will

[Insuremeplz]

You can probably drop the CPU down a bit since there's not really a reason for Quad Core with what you're planning on doing.  You can probably go with either one of these, save yourself $80 and be fine.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103873

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103903

The other thing to be worried about is that case might be a bit too tight with those two cards.  It'll probably fit, but really cram stuff together.  Luckily your vid cards have the power pins on top, so that should be alright.

Those 6950's are pretty good and if you are a gambler, you could always flash them with a bios to unlock some of the extra shaders (don't do the 6970 bios flash, just find the 6950 shader unlock flash..)

Thank you, switched to the first CPU. I'll also do some research on what the heck "flashing the bios to unlock the extra shaders" even means Tip sent.

[Insuremeplz]

6950 uses about 200w on its own, and that power supply is very weak, definitely dont recommend it:

Output
    +3.3V@25A, +5V@25A, +12V1@46A, +5VSB@2.5A, -12V@0.3A

Only one 12V rail, at 46Amps max. That is very low. You don't want all that hardware on one rail. Try and find one with at least 4 rails, maybe 18A each, try Antec 850W maybe?

This will keep your cards stable and your rig from blowing out with all that 24/7 load. Very important component.

Thanks for the suggestion. This was something I was worried about, so I'm glad I posted this thread. I switched to this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371024

[pokermon919]

You can probably drop the CPU down a bit since there's not really a reason for Quad Core with what you're planning on doing.  You can probably go with either one of these, save yourself $80 and be fine.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103873

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103903

The other thing to be worried about is that case might be a bit too tight with those two cards.  It'll probably fit, but really cram stuff together.  Luckily your vid cards have the power pins on top, so that should be alright.

Those 6950's are pretty good and if you are a gambler, you could always flash them with a bios to unlock some of the extra shaders (don't do the 6970 bios flash, just find the 6950 shader unlock flash..)

Thank you, switched to the first CPU. I'll also do some research on what the heck "flashing the bios to unlock the extra shaders" even means Tip sent.

if you want to flash the 6950 bios to unlock shaders you will need a reference model. You can tell the reference from non reference since reference models have the fan on 1 side while non reference models usually have the fan near the middle.

like this : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127555&cm_re=radeon_6950-_-14-127-555-_-Product
that is a reference model. Buy fast cause these will be gone too since the 5830's are being eaten up the 6950's that can flash to 6970 will be next to go probably.

[Insuremeplz]

What exactly does it mean to flash the bios? I'm rewriting the software to make it function like a 6970 rather than a 6950?

[Insuremeplz]

also, what are the risks in doing that? Could I possibly fry my card if I do it wrong? Is it something someone relatively non technical could figure out?

[bcpokey]

also, what are the risks in doing that? Could I possibly fry my card if I do it wrong? Is it something someone relatively non technical could figure out?

Yes it involves overwriting the stock bios (voiding warranty) with another bios. Yes you can fry your card by flashing it to 6970 bios.

But there is a safer alternative, you can write a custom 6950 bios to the card which unlocks the extra shaders, but leaves the clock speed and voltage at stock 6950 levels. Then you can manually overclock yourself to safe levels.

You will need to use winflash I believe it is called, to write a downloaded bios over the existing bios (make sure to back up your existing bios) to unlock the extra shaders. This can only be done on reference 2GB 6950s btw.

[LegitBit]

Depending on what you mean by "light gaming" this may work for you and be much cheaper:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151233

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133094

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139020

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148701

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102906

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231253

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=13-130-567

Much cheaper, if you think you need more power, substitute the Fusion motherboard for:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131734

and

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103846
Which you may be able to unlock.

Why a 5770? Because it plays all modern games excellently at standard resolutions, besides, Windows XP cant use DX10 or 11, so there is no reason to purchase anything better especially since the 7000 series should be coming around the bend soon and you will feel foolish for paying so much for something you can't even use fully.

Why only 4GB of ram? there is barely any difference for gaming unless you play at very high resolutions.

Also Windows XP cannot use over 3.5GB of ram unless you modify it heavily anyway.

[tito13kfm]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.668135&nm_mc=AFC-C8JUNCTION&cm_mmc=AFC-C8JUNCTION-_-EMC-060911-Latest-_-Combo-_-Combo668135-LM1A&PID=3668349&AID=10440897

Combo buy on PSU and DVD drive.  Also has a $30 MIR on it.

OCZ isn't as good as Antec, but it's much cheaper, 2 dedicated 12V rails @ 25A, and it's modular so you can more easily route wires.

700W is more than enough for this system.

As far as unlocking shaders.  Yes, if you do it incorrectly, you can fry the card.  Any time you are messing with the firmware of a piece of hardware there is an inherent risk of something going wrong.  These 2 cards do not have a dual bios switch, so you can't just flip a switch to recover.

Having said that, I'd still recommend it.  It's a nice little performance bump, and as long as you follow along with a good guide, there is barely any chance of frying something.  Just unlocking the shaders without touching voltage should give you a decent little bump.  They you can overclock normally.

If you found this information useful you can tip me at 1Cwmb2SftoPABQtqKoGoG68WdqDs4NRcyp

[tito13kfm]

also, what are the risks in doing that? Could I possibly fry my card if I do it wrong? Is it something someone relatively non technical could figure out?

Yes it involves overwriting the stock bios (voiding warranty) with another bios. Yes you can fry your card by flashing it to 6970 bios.

But there is a safer alternative, you can write a custom 6950 bios to the card which unlocks the extra shaders, but leaves the clock speed and voltage at stock 6950 levels. Then you can manually overclock yourself to safe levels.

You will need to use winflash I believe it is called, to write a downloaded bios over the existing bios (make sure to back up your existing bios) to unlock the extra shaders. This can only be done on reference 2GB 6950s btw.

You can unlock the shaders on any 6950 using RBE AFAIK.  Reference 2GB 6950s can just be flashed over with a reference 6970 BIOS, but that's not exactly safe.  Like you said, you should use a custom one that doesn't touch clocks or voltages.

[tunatime]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.668135&nm_mc=AFC-C8JUNCTION&cm_mmc=AFC-C8JUNCTION-_-EMC-060911-Latest-_-Combo-_-Combo668135-LM1A&PID=3668349&AID=10440897

Combo buy on PSU and DVD drive.  Also has a $30 MIR on it.

OCZ isn't as good as Antec, but it's much cheaper, 2 dedicated 12V rails @ 25A, and it's modular so you can more easily route wires.

700W is more than enough for this system.

As far as unlocking shaders.  Yes, if you do it incorrectly, you can fry the card.  Any time you are messing with the firmware of a piece of hardware there is an inherent risk of something going wrong.  These 2 cards do not have a dual bios switch, so you can't just flip a switch to recover.

Having said that, I'd still recommend it.  It's a nice little performance bump, and as long as you follow along with a good guide, there is barely any chance of frying something.  Just unlocking the shaders without touching voltage should give you a decent little bump.  They you can overclock normally.

If you found this information useful you can tip me at 1Cwmb2SftoPABQtqKoGoG68WdqDs4NRcyp

wrong you cant flash a card that's not a stock amd card and its not a stock card whit out the bios switch. if teh card does not have amd by the pcie connector you cant unlock them and whit  a reference card if you brick it you just switch back jsut dotn put a 6970 bois on it unlock yours or dl the asus 6950 whit the volt mod bios

[tunatime]

also, what are the risks in doing that? Could I possibly fry my card if I do it wrong? Is it something someone relatively non technical could figure out?

Yes it involves overwriting the stock bios (voiding warranty) with another bios. Yes you can fry your card by flashing it to 6970 bios.

But there is a safer alternative, you can write a custom 6950 bios to the card which unlocks the extra shaders, but leaves the clock speed and voltage at stock 6950 levels. Then you can manually overclock yourself to safe levels.

You will need to use winflash I believe it is called, to write a downloaded bios over the existing bios (make sure to back up your existing bios) to unlock the extra shaders. This can only be done on reference 2GB 6950s btw.

You can unlock the shaders on any 6950 using RBE AFAIK.  Reference 2GB 6950s can just be flashed over with a reference 6970 BIOS, but that's not exactly safe.  Like you said, you should use a custom one that doesn't touch clocks or voltages.

no you cant if the pcb is not built by amd you cant unlock it

[tito13kfm]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.668135&nm_mc=AFC-C8JUNCTION&cm_mmc=AFC-C8JUNCTION-_-EMC-060911-Latest-_-Combo-_-Combo668135-LM1A&PID=3668349&AID=10440897

Combo buy on PSU and DVD drive.  Also has a $30 MIR on it.

OCZ isn't as good as Antec, but it's much cheaper, 2 dedicated 12V rails @ 25A, and it's modular so you can more easily route wires.

700W is more than enough for this system.

As far as unlocking shaders.  Yes, if you do it incorrectly, you can fry the card.  Any time you are messing with the firmware of a piece of hardware there is an inherent risk of something going wrong.  These 2 cards do not have a dual bios switch, so you can't just flip a switch to recover.

Having said that, I'd still recommend it.  It's a nice little performance bump, and as long as you follow along with a good guide, there is barely any chance of frying something.  Just unlocking the shaders without touching voltage should give you a decent little bump.  They you can overclock normally.

If you found this information useful you can tip me at 1Cwmb2SftoPABQtqKoGoG68WdqDs4NRcyp

wrong you cant flash a card that's not a stock amd card and its not a stock card whit out the bios switch. if teh card does not have amd by the pcie connector you cant unlock them and whit  a reference card if you brick it you just switch back jsut dotn put a 6970 bois on it unlock yours or dl the asus 6950 whit the volt mod bios

Correct, you can't just flash an existing BIOS on to it.  But you CAN unlock the shaders with RBE, then overclock like normal.  It's been discussed a thousand times before, it works.  Reference cards allow you to use the sapphire bios and just flash with that, non reference and 1GB cards require you to use RBE to unlock.

[Meatball]

Here's the general process about flashing your card's bios: http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/vidcard/159

But that walks you through flashing your 6950 to 6970.  You don't want to do that.  You want to flash it it with the custom 6950 BIOS that unlocks the shaders.  Check out this point for specific info on that.  http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/316974-33-radeon-6950-shader-unlock-instructions

Can you fubar your cards.  Yep...

Is it worth the risk.  I dunno, it's up to you.  Flashing mine jumped my hashing rate about 10-15% on the card. And with 860 GPU clock and stock memory (1250, got wonky with anything else), I'm getting about 369 MH/s

Maybe try it on one and worst case you can always package it back up and return it?  You're call though.

[Insuremeplz]

Depending on what you mean by "light gaming" this may work for you and be much cheaper:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151233

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133094

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139020

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148701

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102906

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231253

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=13-130-567

Much cheaper, if you think you need more power, substitute the Fusion motherboard for:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131734

and

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103846
Which you may be able to unlock.

Why a 5770? Because it plays all modern games excellently at standard resolutions, besides, Windows XP cant use DX10 or 11, so there is no reason to purchase anything better especially since the 7000 series should be coming around the bend soon and you will feel foolish for paying so much for something you can't even use fully.

Why only 4GB of ram? there is barely any difference for gaming unless you play at very high resolutions.

Also Windows XP cannot use over 3.5GB of ram unless you modify it heavily anyway.

This is awesome, and hits the price I was looking for much better. This is what I'm going with. I sent you over something for your help

[AreYouCereal]

Just a observation (and something I want to know myself)

The motherboard your buying has 2 x16 slots for your two cards...Fair enough
But in the stats on them it says one is x16 and one is x4

PCI Express 2.0 x16
2 (x16, x4)

Does this mean one slot is slower and therefore if your using this for gaming does it mean your going to lose performance on one of your cards

[tito13kfm]

Just a observation (and something I want to know myself)

The motherboard your buying has 2 x16 slots for your two cards...Fair enough
But in the stats on them it says one is x16 and one is x4

PCI Express 2.0 x16
2 (x16, x4)

Does this mean one slot is slower and therefore if your using this for gaming does it mean your going to lose performance on one of your cards

It means that when both slots are in use, they will run at x16 and x4 respectively.  The actual performance difference in games between an x4 and x16 slot is somewhere between 2-10% depending on the game and card used.

Find a sub $200 x16/x16 board is near impossible.  x8/x8 would be the better option, but in reality a user would likely not notice much of a difference.

[AreYouCereal]

Just a observation (and something I want to know myself)

The motherboard your buying has 2 x16 slots for your two cards...Fair enough
But in the stats on them it says one is x16 and one is x4

PCI Express 2.0 x16
2 (x16, x4)

Does this mean one slot is slower and therefore if your using this for gaming does it mean your going to lose performance on one of your cards

It means that when both slots are in use, they will run at x16 and x4 respectively.  The actual performance difference in games between an x4 and x16 slot is somewhere between 2-10% depending on the game and card used.

Find a sub $200 x16/x16 board is near impossible.  x8/x8 would be the better option, but in reality a user would likely not notice much of a difference.

Ahh.. OK thanks for explaining

However I'll see your Sub $200 and raise you this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130274&nm_mc=OTC-pr1c3grabb3r&cm_mmc=OTC-pr1c3grabb3r-_-Motherboards+-+AMD-_-MSI-_-13130274

OP this had 4 x16 slots incase you ever decide to expand your mining rig with another card or two..No mods needed

[LegitBit]

This is awesome, and hits the price I was looking for much better. This is what I'm going with.

Thanks, out of curiosity, which option are you planning on? Fusion or the other motherboard and processor?

[Insuremeplz]

This is awesome, and hits the price I was looking for much better. This is what I'm going with.

Thanks, out of curiosity, which option are you planning on? Fusion or the other motherboard and processor?

Other motherboard and processor, its a better processor right? I had a little wiggle room in my budget so I figured I'd spend slightly more

[LegitBit]

This is awesome, and hits the price I was looking for much better. This is what I'm going with.

Thanks, out of curiosity, which option are you planning on? Fusion or the other motherboard and processor?

Other motherboard and processor, its a better processor right? I had a little wiggle room in my budget so I figured I'd spend slightly more

Yes, it is a very nice processor.

It is physically a 4 core, but locked to a 2 core, I was able to unlock mine and overclock to 3.5 GHz easily. PM me sometime if you are looking for help with that.

I used that and a 5770 to play Metro 2033, Starcraft 2, Crysis Warhead, Mass Effect 2, all settings up at 1024x768 on a 26inch TV, etc.. so it should be just fine.

[PcChip]

Whoever said RAM over 4GB is only useful in high resolutions is wrong. The performance at a certain screen resolution is only affected by video ram, onboard the graphics card. Not system RAM.


Also, whoever said having a PSU with only one rail is dangerous is dead wrong - it's the opposite.  Having one high quality rail means you don't have to worry about load balancing between rails.

[tito13kfm]

This is awesome, and hits the price I was looking for much better. This is what I'm going with.

Thanks, out of curiosity, which option are you planning on? Fusion or the other motherboard and processor?

Other motherboard and processor, its a better processor right? I had a little wiggle room in my budget so I figured I'd spend slightly more

Yes, it is a very nice processor.

It is physically a 4 core, but locked to a 2 core, I was able to unlock mine and overclock to 3.5 GHz easily. PM me sometime if you are looking for help with that.

I used that and a 5770 to play Metro 2033, Starcraft 2, Crysis Warhead, Mass Effect 2, all settings up at 1024x768 on a 26inch TV, etc.. so it should be just fine.

It was binned.  Meaning that they either needed more x2 processors at the moment so disabled 2 of the cores of an x4 or there were some flaws with 1 or 2 of the cores on an x4.  The success rate of unlocking on x2 processors has plummeted from almost certain to work, down to you're lucky if you get 1 to unlock.

[LegitBit]

Whoever said RAM over 4GB is only useful in high resolutions is wrong. The performance at a certain screen resolution is only affected by video ram, onboard the graphics card. Not system RAM.

Nope, system RAM is still used to swap the data before being loaded into video ram, where the textures are buffered for rendering.

High system RAM can actually be beneficial at high resolutions in crossfire and sli configurations.

I beleive anandtech or tweaktown had an article on this.

But no, system ram IS used when playing games, though it usually is not a limiting factor since the RAM is only used temporarily. Again, only at extremely high resolutions does this make a difference.


I personally only use 4GB and system ram has never been a problem.

[nphard]

I hate to do this, but Fuck Insuremeplz.  He agreed to pay me in bitcoins to help him put together and setup a mining computer.  After the deal was made, he completely ignored me, and is now looking for help for free.  I understand it's hard to make deals with the unstable exchange rate, but I would have been willing to renegotiate.  A simple "sorry, I changed my mind" would have appeased me.  I could have really used those bitcoins he promised me, and I would like to ask you all to stop helping him.

[Insuremeplz]

I hate to do this, but Fuck Insuremeplz.  He agreed to pay me in bitcoins to help him put together and setup a mining computer.  After the deal was made, he completely ignored me, and is now looking for help for free.  I understand it's hard to make deals with the unstable exchange rate, but I would have been willing to renegotiate.  A simple "sorry, I changed my mind" would have appeased me.  I could have really used those bitcoins he promised me, and I would like to ask you all to stop helping him.

Thanks so much for the kind words, but this post makes you look a little insane. I did make a thread asking for help looking for someone to walk me through the entire process, and you kindly responded to my post offering to help for what I believe was 25BTC (what I offered, which was about $60 at the time.) I responded letting you know I'd get back to you in a few days when I figured out my budget situation, in which time BTC pretty much tripled in value. Did you really expect me to pay you that amount, for not having done any work yet other than responding to a forum post saying you'd be willing to help? Get real.

[LegitBit]

In a situation like that, a small payment verified with block explorer would be appropriate to clear community reputation.


25BTC would be insane at the current price.


People need to stop posting tip ammounts in bitcoin. With the market fluctuating those promises can become unrealistic.

A good way to avoid this is to post tip promises as such : "I will tip (USD)  equivalent in bitcoin for help with ____ "

[nphard]

I understand it's hard to make deals with the unstable exchange rate, but I would have been willing to renegotiate

Did you read my post?

[lonestar]

Ditch the CPU, RAM, DVD, HDD.
Get a sempron 140 - uses about 50-60 less watts (if underclocked to 800mhz).  $35 shipped
Source free ram, dvd, hdd from other computers. $free
You can go with a cheaper mobo if you don't want latest features (i've seen some dual PCI-e for $59 shipped.
Upgrade later after you are done mining, parts will be cheaper in the future too.

[Insuremeplz]

I understand it's hard to make deals with the unstable exchange rate, but I would have been willing to renegotiate

Did you read my post?

I read your post. I'm sorry I didn't write you a courtesy email to say "sorry I will no longer need your help" but to be honest, you really don't have any reason to complain as you didn't do any work for me other than send off a PM offering your services. It's hardly a reason to troll me other than the fact you're pissed off because you could have 500 bucks worth of BTCs right now for looking up some items on newegg.

[nphard]

Actually I did spend hours researching parts and prebuilt computers that would suit your needs.  I also downloaded aim and spent a couple weeks waiting for you to come online.  You can't just make promises and then ignore people and expect them not to troll you later.

[nphard]

It's hardly a reason to troll me other than the fact you're pissed off because you could have 500 bucks worth of BTCs right now for looking up some items on newegg.

No, I'm pissed because I don't have the $60 you promised me. I would have gladly renegotiated to $40-60 worth of bitcoins at whatever the exchange rate was when you got your mining rig up and running.  I probably would have gone as low as $20.  If you had just bothered to message me I would have set you up with someone else willing to help you for free.

[Insuremeplz]

It's hardly a reason to troll me other than the fact you're pissed off because you could have 500 bucks worth of BTCs right now for looking up some items on newegg.

No, I'm pissed because I don't have the $60 you promised me. I would have gladly renegotiated to $40-60 worth of bitcoins at whatever the exchange rate was when you got your mining rig up and running.  I probably would have gone as low as $20.  If you had just bothered to message me I would have set you up with someone else willing to help you for free.

I apologize. We spent a very small amount of time talking and didn't go into specifics other than the fact I was interested in mining, I probably should have let you know I had to reconsider because the price shot up but I figured it was assumed it wasn't going to go forward because the price in BTC was no longer reasonable. PM me your BTC address and tomorrow afternoon when I'm at my home client I'll send you $10 worth of BTC as an act of good faith.

[innervisi0nn]

Give [Insuremeplz] a break, he just tipped a few people here for helping him out. Others just demand the support.

[NEO2012]

I'd also like to use this as my main computer, light gaming, word processing, school work type stuff. This will be my first computer I've built so I appreciate suggestions on if everything will work together, if things will stay cool enough, better GPU to buy (cant find 5830/50's) or anything else you can think of. I already have windows XP, keyboard, mouse. Do I need anything else? Include BTC address for tip.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151175

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811815006

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136073

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157243

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150523  (two of these)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256072

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231253

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103899


I'd also love to cut about $150 off this price, so if there's anywhere I can save costs without reducing performance too much I'd love suggestions. Thanks!

how did that work out for u?

They say in the California gold rush, most miners never made enough to recoup their investment.
The only people assured of profits were the ones selling tools to the miners.

[crazyates]

how did that work out for u?

They say in the California gold rush, most miners never made enough to recoup their investment.
The only people assured of profits were the ones selling tools to the miners.

Can you stop spamming like every thread you can think of? This thread is a year and a half old.

And yes, I've more than recouped my investment, both from my 5xxx cards, my 7xxx cards, and my BFL Singles. I'd say most miners that have been here for more than a year have made plenty of coin.

[NEO2012]

how did that work out for u?

They say in the California gold rush, most miners never made enough to recoup their investment.
The only people assured of profits were the ones selling tools to the miners.

Can you stop spamming like every thread you can think of? This thread is a year and a half old.

And yes, I've more than recouped my investment, both from my 5xxx cards, my 7xxx cards, and my BFL Singles. I'd say most miners that have been here for more than a year have made plenty of coin.

wat do u mean spamming? are u ok?

[GernMiester]

Crazy BUGS OUT when old threads are brought back from the nether pages.

[crazyates]

Crazy BUGS OUT when old threads are brought back from the nether pages.

Gralakjoivnen!