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March 31, 2016, 04:46:20 PM |
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I think loan is a scam. An economy needs, only, free funding and a tax system and nothing else. Do you agree?
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March 31, 2016, 05:23:16 PM |
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I wouldn't call it a scam, but robbery yes. It's the way that banks make their living but often this loans are to expensive and unfair forw their clients. Islam banks, though, give loans without interest.
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March 31, 2016, 05:33:32 PM |
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If the bank starts to give free money our people will become too lazy ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) ..... In my opinion, it depends upon the country income. The rich countries should provide loan for needy people without interest. In contrast, the poor countries should apply normal interest and it will help to balance the country economic level.
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Kartikay
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March 31, 2016, 05:36:01 PM |
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I do not think it as a scam. Why would someone give you money without their own profit. Banks have their own infrastructure, they have to pay bills, pay their employees, for all these needs it is necessary to interest money.
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March 31, 2016, 06:08:42 PM |
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Banks need to charge interest on loans to pay for all the salaries of the fat cats and shareholders behind the curtain. They also have to pay for the huge sponsorship for Sport and expensive
advertisements in mainstream media. They also have to maintain old outdated private ledgers in super secure facilities and build secure faults to charge us even more. The Islam banks piggy back off
other people to give these interest free loans {Well this is true for my country, where they share banking services with other people from other religions} Now you know, where your interest is going...
and why we need to feed the fat cats, if you using the fiat system linked to banks.
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Laosai
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March 31, 2016, 06:21:25 PM |
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I think loan is a scam. An economy needs, only, free funding and a tax system and nothing else. Do you agree?
You have a good point here. What happens if banks give only loans. They're the only source of money in the society. Every coin you ever had went through banks. It means they have interests on absolutely everything in the world. But how do you pay those interests if bank already owns all the money? Answer is simple: by taking a bigger loan.
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March 31, 2016, 06:30:52 PM |
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Nobody will give you free money without benefit . Banks its a big financial pyramid and they trying to make money from it.
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March 31, 2016, 06:33:05 PM |
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the same way you do not work for free, everyone here in this world need to be payed if they run a service
also giving money for free would require continuous printing, because there will no more deterrent to how much it will be asked by anyone
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greBit
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March 31, 2016, 06:35:24 PM |
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If the bank starts to give free money our people will become too lazy ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) ..... In my opinion, it depends upon the country income. The rich countries should provide loan for needy people without interest. In contrast, the poor countries should apply normal interest and it will help to balance the country economic level. The main reason of bank getting huge profit is because of loan. Agree with you bank should provide the loan to needy people for free... As you said depending on financial condition of the country. Loan if they provide it is more income to the bank because any way they will get the 100% amount + 50 % more towards what they provided loan...obviously no one goes for the loss if they can make more profit.
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V for Varoufakis (OP)
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March 31, 2016, 06:41:48 PM |
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Most people dont know that it is illegal to payback a loan to a bank with or without interest. Only a contingent tax is legal. If they knew it, massive lawsuits would happened against the banks.
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Laosai
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March 31, 2016, 06:46:15 PM |
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the same way you do not work for free, everyone here in this world need to be payed if they run a service
also giving money for free would require continuous printing, because there will no more deterrent to how much it will be asked by anyone
Difference here is that there is no choice given. Banks print every penny in the world. It means they get interests on every penny in the world. Interests that can be paid only by printing more money that they lend again. That's why the statement "the world is 300billions in debt" is true. And it's in debt to the banks, not to the moon.
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V for Varoufakis (OP)
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March 31, 2016, 06:46:53 PM |
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the same way you do not work for free, everyone here in this world need to be payed if they run a service
also giving money for free would require continuous printing, because there will no more deterrent to how much it will be asked by anyone
No, thats why the tax system invented.
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Laosai
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March 31, 2016, 06:46:58 PM |
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Most people dont know that it is illegal to payback a loan to a bank with or without interest. Only a contingent tax is legal. If they knew it, massive lawsuits would happened against the banks.
What? I don't understand what you mean. You mean it's illegal to pay a loan?
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V for Varoufakis (OP)
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March 31, 2016, 06:57:55 PM |
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Most people dont know that it is illegal to payback a loan to a bank with or without interest. Only a contingent tax is legal. If they knew it, massive lawsuits would happened against the banks.
What? I don't understand what you mean. You mean it's illegal to pay a loan? Yes, because it is double charging, you pay 1)the tax and 2)the loan and if you pay interest it is triple charging.
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Laosai
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March 31, 2016, 07:04:16 PM |
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Most people dont know that it is illegal to payback a loan to a bank with or without interest. Only a contingent tax is legal. If they knew it, massive lawsuits would happened against the banks.
What? I don't understand what you mean. You mean it's illegal to pay a loan? Yes, because it is double charging, you pay 1)the tax and 2)the loan and if you pay interest it is triple charging. I still don't understand. You don't pay the tax, what kind of tax do you pay on a loan?
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V for Varoufakis (OP)
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March 31, 2016, 07:09:10 PM |
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Most people dont know that it is illegal to payback a loan to a bank with or without interest. Only a contingent tax is legal. If they knew it, massive lawsuits would happened against the banks.
What? I don't understand what you mean. You mean it's illegal to pay a loan? Yes, because it is double charging, you pay 1)the tax and 2)the loan and if you pay interest it is triple charging. I still don't understand. You don't pay the tax, what kind of tax do you pay on a loan? I mean the tax to the state.
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March 31, 2016, 07:39:51 PM |
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A loan is a scam, banks dont lend you anything they create money out of thin air in the form of credit and charge you interest for the privilege. Its all a complete scam that the general public know nothing about.
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March 31, 2016, 07:56:05 PM |
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Loans are not a scam. This is the way the banks and the quick loan companies are making their money. It's a business like any other where you have a shortage of funds and you can't pay your bills for the month so you go and use their service. Like it's up to you if you are gonna get a loan or not they haven't pointed a gun to your head.
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March 31, 2016, 08:05:55 PM |
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There are a wide range of loans and it is unfair to call them all a scam. Normal loans where you might pay 3% yearly over the lifetime of the loan seem reasonable. This allows for various things like admin and a small bit of profit to the bank - as it should be. It's the payday loan lenders who offer short term but expect an incredibly high return that ruin it for the others. You have to look after your own credit rating as well
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March 31, 2016, 08:12:11 PM |
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its a system they made over the years.
not much of a scam, but only needed to build credit etc. Loans are fine, its just the disguised interest rates is where the robbery begins.
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