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March 31, 2016, 06:38:25 PM
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The Clinton Investigation Enters a Dangerous Phase

by Andrew P. Napolitano, March 31, 2016

The FBI investigation of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s failure to protect state secrets contained in her emails has entered its penultimate phase, and it is a dangerous one for her and her aides.

Federal law enforcement sources have let it be known that federal prosecutors and the FBI have completed their examination of raw data in the case. After the FBI acquires raw data – for example, the nature and number of the state secrets in the emails Clinton failed to protect or the regular, consistent, systematic nature of that failure – prosecutors and agents proceed to draw rational inferences from that data.

Then they proceed to corroborate those inferences, looking for other sources to support or even to contradict them. With one exception, all of this work has been done with neutral sources of evidence – documents, email metadata, government records and technical experts.

The exception is Bryan Pagliano, the one member of Clinton’s inner circle who, with either a written promise of non-prosecution or an order of immunity from a federal judge, began to cooperate with federal prosecutors last fall.

Here is what he told the feds.

Pagliano has explained to federal prosecutors the who, what, when, how and why he migrated an open State Department email stream and a secret State Department email stream from government computers to Clinton’s secret server in her home in Chappaqua, New York. He has told them that Clinton paid him $5,000 to commit that likely criminal activity.

He has also told some of the 147 FBI agents assigned to this case that Clinton herself was repeatedly told by her own State Department information technology experts and their colleagues at the National Security Agency that her persistent use of her off-the-shelf BlackBerry was neither an effective nor an acceptable means of receiving, transmitting or safeguarding state secrets. Little did they know how reckless she was with government secrets, as none was apparently then aware of her use of her non-secure secret server in Chappaqua for all of her email uses.

We know that the acquisition and corroboration phase of the investigation has been completed because the prosecutors have begun to ask Clinton’s top aides during her time as secretary of state to come in for interviews. This is a delicate and dangerous phase for the aides, all of whom have engaged counsel to represent them.

Here are the dangers.

The Department of Justice will not reveal to the aides or their lawyers what it knows about the case or what evidence of criminal wrongdoing, if any, it has acquired on each of them. Hence, if they submit to an FBI interview, they will go in "blind." By going in blind, the aides run the risk of getting caught in a "perjury trap." Though not under oath, they could be trapped into lying by astute prosecutors and aggressive FBI agents, as it is a crime – the equivalent of perjury – to lie to them or materially mislead them.

For this reason, most white-collar criminal defense lawyers will not permit their clients to be interviewed by any prosecutors or FBI agents. Martha Stewart’s lawyers failed to give her that advice, and she went to prison for one lie told in one conversation with one FBI agent.

After interviewing any Clinton aides who choose to be interviewed, the DOJ personnel on the case will move their investigation into its final phase, in which they will ask Clinton herself whether she wishes to speak with them. The prosecutors will basically tell her lawyers that they have evidence of the criminal behavior of their client and that before they present it to a grand jury, they want to afford Clinton an opportunity blindly to challenge it.

This will be a moment she must devoutly wish would pass from her, as she will face a damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don’t dilemma.

Here is her dilemma.

If she were to talk to federal prosecutors and FBI agents, they would catch her in many inconsistencies, as she has spoken with great deception in public about this case. She has, for example, stated many times that she used the private server so she could have one mobile device for all of her emails. The FBI knows she had four mobile devices. She has also falsely claimed publicly and under oath that she neither sent nor received anything "marked classified." The FBI knows that nothing is marked classified, and its agents also know that her unprotected secret server transmitted some of the nation’s gravest secrets.

The prosecutors and agents cannot be happy about her public lies and her repeated demeaning attitude about their investigation, and they would have an understandable animus toward her if she were to meet with them.

If she were to decline to be interviewed – a prudent legal but treacherous political decision – the feds would leak her rejection of their invitation, and political turmoil would break loose because one of her most imprudent and often repeated public statements in this case has been that she can’t wait to talk to the FBI. That’s a lie, and the FBI knows it.

Some Democrats who now understand the gravity of the case against Clinton have taken to arguing lately that the feds should establish a different and higher bar – a novel and unknown requirement for a greater quantum of evidence and proof of a heavier degree of harm – before Clinton can be prosecuted. They have suggested this merely because she is the likely Democratic presidential nominee.

The public will never stand for that. America has a bedrock commitment to the rule of law. The rule of law means that no one is beneath the law’s protections or above its requirements. The DOJ is not in the business of rewriting the law, but the Democrats should get in the business of rethinking Clinton’s status as their presumptive presidential nominee, lest a summer catastrophe come their way.

Andrew P. Napolitano, a former judge of the Superior Court of New Jersey, is the senior judicial analyst at Fox News Channel. Judge Napolitano has written seven books on the US Constitution. The most recent is Suicide Pact: The Radical Expansion of Presidential Powers and the Lethal Threat to American Liberty. To find out more about Judge Napolitano and to read features by other Creators Syndicate writers and cartoonists, visit www.creators.com.

http://original.antiwar.com/andrew-p-napolitano/2016/03/30/the-clinton-investigation-enters-a-dangerous-phase/

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March 31, 2016, 06:43:49 PM
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Full presidential pardon from 0bama...


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March 31, 2016, 06:54:37 PM
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Full presidential pardon from 0bama...




I don´t know; it´s starting to sound pretty scary for Hillary. I guess the judge knows full well what he´s talking about. I guess they´ll drop her, it´ll be some health excuse. Joe Biden will come in. Give it two months.

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Full presidential pardon from 0bama...




I don´t know; it´s starting to sound pretty scary for Hillary. I guess the judge knows full well what he´s talking about. I guess they´ll drop her, it´ll be some health excuse. Joe Biden will come in. Give it two months.











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March 31, 2016, 07:02:50 PM
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This has to do with national security, secrets of the state. It´s not something you want to create a precedence of this sort in. I think it´s just too dangerous if they let Hillary off the hook. What about future cases?

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March 31, 2016, 07:08:52 PM
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This has to do with national security, secrets of the state. It´s not something you want to create a precedence of this sort in. I think it´s just too dangerous if they let Hillary off the hook. What about future cases?


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March 31, 2016, 07:13:40 PM
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There is no excuse. If you´re sloppy with diplomatic communications you put peoples´lives in danger. There´s information about travels and whereabouts of officials. And America being at war against terrorists here and there this is very dangerous information to have insecure. It´s amazing how lackadaisical she was about these things and then how she and Obama and the team just want to shrug it all off. These people have loose screws in the head, clearly.

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March 31, 2016, 07:22:11 PM
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We´re talking diplomatic mail and communications here. Obviously the United States has strict rules and procedures for these things. It´s elementary. She just doesn´t give a hoot about that, just does it as she likes. She´s above rules and regulations. And then runs for the presidency. It´s just mind blowing.

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March 31, 2016, 10:19:39 PM
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We´re talking diplomatic mail and communications here. Obviously the United States has strict rules and procedures for these things. It´s elementary. She just doesn´t give a hoot about that, just does it as she likes. She´s above rules and regulations. And then runs for the presidency. It´s just mind blowing.


She acted as a despot who was above the law. I may have some respect for 0bama if he let his general attorney apply the law in the book. I have little hope this will happen.


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March 31, 2016, 10:33:12 PM
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We´re talking diplomatic mail and communications here. Obviously the United States has strict rules and procedures for these things. It´s elementary. She just doesn´t give a hoot about that, just does it as she likes. She´s above rules and regulations. And then runs for the presidency. It´s just mind blowing.


She acted as a despot who was above the law. I may have some respect for 0bama if he let his general attorney apply the law in the book. I have little hope this will happen.




Usually any political scandal is usually overlooked behind closed doors no?

And they revise their plan to the public to make it less tragic it should sound and move on w. as a presdiential candidate.

Sorry, I just watch too much House of Cards lately lol.

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March 31, 2016, 10:48:16 PM
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Bad attitude no one likes a bully apparently, don't they always fall.


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March 31, 2016, 11:06:36 PM
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We´re talking diplomatic mail and communications here. Obviously the United States has strict rules and procedures for these things. It´s elementary. She just doesn´t give a hoot about that, just does it as she likes. She´s above rules and regulations. And then runs for the presidency. It´s just mind blowing.


She acted as a despot who was above the law. I may have some respect for 0bama if he let his general attorney apply the law in the book. I have little hope this will happen.




Usually any political scandal is usually overlooked behind closed doors no?

And they revise their plan to the public to make it less tragic it should sound and move on w. as a presdiential candidate.

Sorry, I just watch too much House of Cards lately lol.

This is beyond a political sex scandal. We are talking ultra top secret stuff. Military sat images, deployment, deep infiltrated human spies and their communications, CIA strategy. All in the open for very good hackers

She needs to go to jail because she chose to do this. No accident.

This is bad. They cannot publicly say what she did wrong because everything is so classified. The whole FBI, NSA and all the agents monitoring the world,  Wink bitcointalk.org Wink included, are all rooting for her to go to jail I bet. I will never know but I would doubt anyone dedicated to this crazy secret life would be happy knowing their colleagues died because of personal political ambition from a woman who may be borderline insane, and potentially their next potus.

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April 02, 2016, 04:15:48 PM
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FBI wants the state Department to stop investigation of Hillary for a good reason Because the state Department has a conflict of interest and has been ineffective and partial in executing a fair and speedy investigation.

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State Department suspends review into 'top secret' Clinton emails

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The State Department has suspended its internal review into whether former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton or her top aides mishandled emails containing information now deemed 'top secret." Spokeswoman Elizabeth Trudeau said Friday the department had paused the review to avoid interfering with an ongoing FBI investigation into Clinton's use of a private server while she was America's top diplomat. She said the decision was made after the department sought the FBI's advice on how to proceed with the review and received word that it should follow its standard practice.

Trudeau said the department's standard practice is to place internal reviews "on hold while there is an ongoing law enforcement investigation underway." An FBI spokeswoman declined to comment. "Of course, we do not want our internal review to complicate or impede the progress of their ongoing law enforcement investigation," Trudeau told reporters. "Therefore, the State Department at this time is not moving forward with our internal review." Trudeau said the department would "reassess next steps" in the internal review process once the FBI completes its probe.

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State Department suspends review into 'top secret' Clinton emails

Signs of the Times  4:45 pm

The State Department has suspended its internal review into whether former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton or her top aides mishandled emails containing information now deemed 'top secret." Spokeswoman Elizabeth Trudeau said Friday the department had paused the review to avoid interfering with an ongoing FBI investigation into Clinton's use of a private server while she was America's top diplomat. She said the decision was made after the department sought the FBI's advice on how to proceed with the review and received word that it should follow its standard practice.

Trudeau said the department's standard practice is to place internal reviews "on hold while there is an ongoing law enforcement investigation underway." An FBI spokeswoman declined to comment. "Of course, we do not want our internal review to complicate or impede the progress of their ongoing law enforcement investigation," Trudeau told reporters. "Therefore, the State Department at this time is not moving forward with our internal review." Trudeau said the department would "reassess next steps" in the internal review process once the FBI completes its probe.

I seen somewhere the FBI wanted the state department to call a halt on this.
Or did I imagine it, can you find out?
Also that the FBI are not going to make a case for prosecution.

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State Department suspends review into 'top secret' Clinton emails

Signs of the Times  4:45 pm

The State Department has suspended its internal review into whether former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton or her top aides mishandled emails containing information now deemed 'top secret." Spokeswoman Elizabeth Trudeau said Friday the department had paused the review to avoid interfering with an ongoing FBI investigation into Clinton's use of a private server while she was America's top diplomat. She said the decision was made after the department sought the FBI's advice on how to proceed with the review and received word that it should follow its standard practice.

Trudeau said the department's standard practice is to place internal reviews "on hold while there is an ongoing law enforcement investigation underway." An FBI spokeswoman declined to comment. "Of course, we do not want our internal review to complicate or impede the progress of their ongoing law enforcement investigation," Trudeau told reporters. "Therefore, the State Department at this time is not moving forward with our internal review." Trudeau said the department would "reassess next steps" in the internal review process once the FBI completes its probe.

I seen somewhere the FBI wanted the state department to call a halt on this.
Or did I imagine it, can you find out?
Also that the FBI are not going to make a case for prosecution.

I don´t know; I guess it´s what they say. They put their internal investigation on hold while there´s a law enforcement investigation ongoing. It´s probably standard procedure. You don´t want to impede or interfere with the police or complicate their work.

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April 02, 2016, 06:18:55 PM
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State Department suspends review into 'top secret' Clinton emails

Signs of the Times  4:45 pm

The State Department has suspended its internal review into whether former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton or her top aides mishandled emails containing information now deemed 'top secret." Spokeswoman Elizabeth Trudeau said Friday the department had paused the review to avoid interfering with an ongoing FBI investigation into Clinton's use of a private server while she was America's top diplomat. She said the decision was made after the department sought the FBI's advice on how to proceed with the review and received word that it should follow its standard practice.

Trudeau said the department's standard practice is to place internal reviews "on hold while there is an ongoing law enforcement investigation underway." An FBI spokeswoman declined to comment. "Of course, we do not want our internal review to complicate or impede the progress of their ongoing law enforcement investigation," Trudeau told reporters. "Therefore, the State Department at this time is not moving forward with our internal review." Trudeau said the department would "reassess next steps" in the internal review process once the FBI completes its probe.

I seen somewhere the FBI wanted the state department to call a halt on this.
Or did I imagine it, can you find out?
Also that the FBI are not going to make a case for prosecution.

I don´t know; I guess it´s what they say. They put their internal investigation on hold while there´s a law enforcement investigation ongoing. It´s probably standard procedure. You don´t want to impede or interfere with the police or complicate their work.

Thanks I guess I may have misread it, or it was put into my head by other reading somewhere else.

I know Hilary  said this though.

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At a recent Democratic debate, Clinton grew exasperated when asked what she would do if indicted. “That’s not going to happen,” she said.

Looks rather different for her now  Cheesy

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