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April 01, 2016, 09:37:21 PM
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Please don't trade with bleachedno. The user has been confirmed a scammer and scammed on bitify with the account suspended. Trade with cautions!!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1420445.0
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April 01, 2016, 09:57:00 PM
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Im asking him to send me his BTC address but he is acting very irrational.  I sent it to the wrong address and want to make sure I get it right this time.

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April 01, 2016, 10:02:33 PM
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also he has a scam accusation on him right now.
How would an open scam accusation prevent you from returning the coins you owe?

Im asking him to send me his BTC address but he is acting very irrational.
I think he clearly said where he wants the funds to be repaid.

Perfect please pay back to the same wallet as the funds came from
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Please don't trade with bleachedno. The user has been confirmed a scammer and scammed on bitify with the account suspended. Trade with cautions!!
This loan was already filled.
Unless you want to encourage OP to default on this loan (and hence scam himself), I don't see any reason for your post.

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April 01, 2016, 10:05:46 PM
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https://blockchain.info/address/1EaZ6MR5GmBc2rw7mYoxLPRBRFW7Zzscsj
he finally sent me his BTC address and he sent me a bunch of negs, I returned what was agreed but I was going to give him extra BTC but since he acted very childish Ill only honor the interest.

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April 01, 2016, 10:06:15 PM
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i not send you any wallet scammer

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April 01, 2016, 10:09:37 PM
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i not send you any wallet scammer

Here you go http://imgur.com/C84yDU7

more http://imgur.com/ISH0AEH

who is the scammer now?

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April 01, 2016, 10:13:35 PM
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Ok guys someone should help those guys here and see who's the real scammer.

If OP is the scammer, he sent the btc to the "wrong" address (maybe his own address). Now OP say that @bleachedno has finally gave him the btc address and he say that he sent the btc. But it can be is own address again, since @bleachedno says that he didn't gave him a address.

Now if @bleachedno is the scammer, OP accidentally sent the BTC to the wrong address and he finally sent to the new address but @bleachedno wants that OP pays the loan for the second time.


Who will we trust? Someone can verify this situation?

EDIT: OP your screenshots are useless maybe.. since you can inspect element easily. Well can someone verify this please?
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April 01, 2016, 10:18:12 PM
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Ok guys someone should help those guys here and see who's the real scammer.

If OP is the scammer, he sent the btc to the "wrong" address (maybe his own address). Now OP say that @bleachedno has finally gave him the btc address and he say that he sent the btc. But it can be is own address again, since @bleachedno says that he didn't gave him a address.

Now if @bleachedno is the scammer, OP accidentally sent the BTC to the wrong address and he finally sent to the new address but @bleachedno wants that OP pays the loan for the second time.


Who will we trust? Someone can verify this situation?

EDIT: OP your screenshots are useless maybe.. since you can inspect element easily. Well can someone verify this please?

Seriously don't you see how he acted throughout the process, it is common sense,  Why would I scam for such a petty amount?  I have even done BTC trades with paypal accounts.  I can give access to Tomatoecage to my wallet and Bitcointalk account to proove it, is he willing to do the same?

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April 01, 2016, 10:19:04 PM
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Who will we trust? Someone can verify this situation?
OP either reports the PM to a Mod, kindly asks for verification of its authenticity in this thread,
or allows someone trusted to access their account and confirm the authenticity of said PM that way.

I can give access to Tomatoecage to my wallet and Bitcointalk account to proove it, is he willing to do the same?
He can't ulitmatively prove he didn't send a (or that exact) PM, as PMs are easily deleted from the outbox. Even if someone was to access his account, what would it prove?
However, what should be easy to verify is whether or not you did receive said PM. Someone can access your account and confirm what you say.



@OP: If this PM is real, take some advice from me for your next loan:
When dealing with someone you don't know, it's always better to state all terms of the loan out in public, with others to witness the terms, addresses etc, so messups like this don't happen.

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April 01, 2016, 10:23:29 PM
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Quote for future reference...http://archive.is/hmuyj
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April 01, 2016, 10:23:56 PM
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Ok guys someone should help those guys here and see who's the real scammer.

If OP is the scammer, he sent the btc to the "wrong" address (maybe his own address). Now OP say that @bleachedno has finally gave him the btc address and he say that he sent the btc. But it can be is own address again, since @bleachedno says that he didn't gave him a address.

Now if @bleachedno is the scammer, OP accidentally sent the BTC to the wrong address and he finally sent to the new address but @bleachedno wants that OP pays the loan for the second time.


Who will we trust? Someone can verify this situation?

EDIT: OP your screenshots are useless maybe.. since you can inspect element easily. Well can someone verify this please?

Seriously don't you see how he acted throughout the process, it is common sense,  Why would I scam for such a petty amount?  I have even done BTC trades with paypal accounts.  I can give access to Tomatoecage to my wallet and Bitcointalk account to proove it, is he willing to do the same?

Well man, i've seen scumbags to scam for much less.
I don't usually pick a side when i'm dealing with this kind of situation. But since @OP has 2 negative trusts (and both are from today), i trust more in you than him, but still not 100% sure.

Who will we trust? Someone can verify this situation?
OP either reports the PM to a Mod, kindly asks for verification of its authenticity in this thread,
or allows someone trusted to access their account and confirm the authenticity of said PM that way.

I can give access to Tomatoecage to my wallet and Bitcointalk account to proove it, is he willing to do the same?
You can't ulitmatively prove you didn't send a PM, as it's easily deleted from your outbox.
However, what should be easy to verify is whether or not you did receive said PM.



@OP: If this PM is real, take some advice from me for your next loan:
When dealing with someone you don't know, it's always better to state all terms of the loan out in public, with others to witness the terms, addresses etc, so messups like this don't happen.

Yes, @OP you should ask for a mod or some high rep user to verify your account if you don't mind.
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April 01, 2016, 10:27:34 PM
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Ok guys someone should help those guys here and see who's the real scammer.

If OP is the scammer, he sent the btc to the "wrong" address (maybe his own address). Now OP say that @bleachedno has finally gave him the btc address and he say that he sent the btc. But it can be is own address again, since @bleachedno says that he didn't gave him a address.

Now if @bleachedno is the scammer, OP accidentally sent the BTC to the wrong address and he finally sent to the new address but @bleachedno wants that OP pays the loan for the second time.


Who will we trust? Someone can verify this situation?

EDIT: OP your screenshots are useless maybe.. since you can inspect element easily. Well can someone verify this please?

Maybe both of them are the scammer. @bleachedno is a scammer for sure now we only have to verify the OP.
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April 01, 2016, 10:29:57 PM
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I suggest the OP provide the full chat history between him and @bleachedno.
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April 01, 2016, 10:36:42 PM
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i not send you any wallet scammer

I suspected from day 1 that you will turn out to be a scammer sooner or later.The typical scammer posting.The feedback you left on his profiles proves how ignorant you're.By posting such comments and spamming the system,you are only looking for a PermaBan.You recently stared a self moderated thread for selling the same goods you have been accused off and then your tantrums about doing whatever you want despite of the feedbacks.Just letting you know,your position to trade in this forum including your credibility is over,the negative trust is enough proof for anyone to not to trade with you.Retaliating is just going to make situations worse.What next ? You're going to trust spam my profile now ?
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April 01, 2016, 10:44:48 PM
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yeah I think the member should allow access to his account, to prove I am lying

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April 01, 2016, 11:16:07 PM
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yeah I think the member should allow access to his account, to prove I am lying

You should make screenshots of the full chat history not just copy the texts.
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April 02, 2016, 12:15:03 AM
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Am i blind or is it my mobile? Tx of repayment?

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April 02, 2016, 09:16:15 AM
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Am i blind or is it my mobile? Tx of repayment?
https://blockchain.info/address/1EaZ6MR5GmBc2rw7mYoxLPRBRFW7Zzscsj

look at that guys history compared too mine and how he talks to me, nor did he come back after he got his btc as well. 

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April 02, 2016, 03:40:28 PM
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Okay fund were send from 1Q5DQ4NVMMN2yBDyFHnHNbj7GVNfU9Pfc6 to 13QMr4hcBsP3iNotNyKFefxJNkUbYEnw5V (tx)

V.Lace sent from 13QMr4hcBsP3iNotNyKFefxJNkUbYEnw5V to 1AvZyyE5tp3eR5bc3vAi5Hkwgb8mf3BqYW  (tx)

While posting that he resend he noticed that he sent wrong, note post is not edited. http://archive.is/CQ446#65%

Things to note:

Lender did ask for aloan a while ago but was pissed when getting some hints how to do it right.
Later lender is able to give a loan, and requests to send money back to the address he sent from. You simply dont do that, like QS suggested.

Lender sent V.Lace a PM to repay to 1EaZ6MR5GmBc2rw7mYoxLPRBRFW7Zzscsj this happend here tx

According to this: http://imgur.com/C84yDU7 1EaZ6MR5GmBc2rw7mYoxLPRBRFW7Zzscsj is the lenders address.

If the PM is still in V.Laces inbox i think the case is pretty obvious.

Did i get something wrong?

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April 02, 2016, 03:50:56 PM
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According to this: http://imgur.com/C84yDU7 1EaZ6MR5GmBc2rw7mYoxLPRBRFW7Zzscsj is the lenders address.
If the PM is still in V.Laces inbox i think the case is pretty obvious.
Did i get something wrong?
Nope, that's the situation.
However, none was yet abled to verify the PM. Instead of granting access to their account, V.Lance wanted the lender to grant someone access to the lenders account,
not understanding that this will be completely useless.

yeah I think the member should allow access to his account, to prove I am lying

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