[RaiBlocks] RaiBlocks trading thread

[bitdoger]

there is already the issue with roll over? or we can buy/ sell without limitations?

hello gave me reasson why you need buy mrai? you see there is no updates, more 2 month so tell me)  and i will gave you gift mrai coins

[Jmild1]

there is already the issue with roll over? or we can buy/ sell without limitations?

Rollback only happened once but I think that's the reason why they turn the faucet off. THat shouldn't be a major thing if they did fixed it quickly. There must be a reason why they really turn the faucet off.

can't find any clear statement about this issue I just watching this thread and still waiting if any update will be shown up coming from the dev of Mrai but we still not hearing anything.

in short there is no update from devs, i even check their github page to see if there are any updates after those issues about MRAI but sadly there is none

They stopped giving any updates for about 1 month already.

there is already the issue with roll over? or we can buy/ sell without limitations?

hello gave me reasson why you need buy mrai? you see there is no updates, more 2 month so tell me)  and i will gave you gift mrai coins

Cause people will use the mrai that they hold in Kaselit new coin that enable you to swap your mrai with his coin democracy but before you can do that you require to join the BCO.

[freepick]

Is there any people want to buy mrai? i still have Mrai
I know about kaselit project but i dont want invest in BCO to convert Mrai
If anyone willing to invest in kaselit project and got Mrai cheap PM me

In kaselit project 1 Mrai will have value 500 sat

[crairezx20]

there is already the issue with roll over? or we can buy/ sell without limitations?

hello gave me reasson why you need buy mrai? you see there is no updates, more 2 month so tell me)  and i will gave you gift mrai coins

I think they are need mrai because they are still hoping about the future of this altcoin honestly i have some mrai to hold and waiting for the update by devs if they are still continue this project i have a backup.. if you dont want your mrai to hold you send it to me..

[Jmild1]

there is already the issue with roll over? or we can buy/ sell without limitations?

hello gave me reasson why you need buy mrai? you see there is no updates, more 2 month so tell me)  and i will gave you gift mrai coins

I think they are need mrai because they are still hoping about the future of this altcoin honestly i have some mrai to hold and waiting for the update by devs if they are still continue this project i have a backup.. if you dont want your mrai to hold you send it to me..

People see dark about the future of this coin, other's just want to take the opportunity of having their mrai's that they hold to be traded with a fair amount to give them atleast the funds that they use to spend in it.

[rancidgash]

Stop trading Mrai if you wish to invest them on my ICO, I've closed the project: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1516991.msg15560248#msg15560248

STOP spamming this thread!

My question is: Is it possible to make rollback for more than 2 months?

If not, what is your price for 10k mrai?

[kneim]

Because anybody can create circles of wallets with a unique fork, and start anytime in the past, and because nobody can control it by a block explorer, the coin seems to be dead at this time. In my opinion the devs have two options:

1) Stop the project officially, that nobody can scam others with trading coins on the loss of the clueless

2) Start the main nodes and make an official block explorer running again

If they should not move, they loose all their reputation. This would be too bad about this project.

[Byte16]

Because anybody can create circles of wallets with a unique fork, and start anytime in the past, and because nobody can control it by a block explorer, the coin seems to be dead at this time. In my opinion the devs have two options:

1) Stop the project officially, that nobody can scam others with trading coins on the loss of the clueless

2) Start the main nodes and make an official block explorer running again

If they should not move, they loose all their reputation. This would be too bad about this project.

Devs had 2 months to respond. And they didn't. Most likely they will do nothing.
What options does community have?

[Caladonian]

Because anybody can create circles of wallets with a unique fork, and start anytime in the past, and because nobody can control it by a block explorer, the coin seems to be dead at this time. In my opinion the devs have two options:

1) Stop the project officially, that nobody can scam others with trading coins on the loss of the clueless

2) Start the main nodes and make an official block explorer running again

If they should not move, they loose all their reputation. This would be too bad about this project.

Devs had 2 months to respond. And they didn't. Most likely they will do nothing.
What options does community have?

if you are going to move back might some pages you will see that kaselit already make some moves on his own, i'm not sure what is the update from this project but  it  will allow Mrai to be use in exchange to his new project.

[kneim]

Because anybody can create circles of wallets with a unique fork, and start anytime in the past, and because nobody can control it by a block explorer, the coin seems to be dead at this time. In my opinion the devs have two options:

1) Stop the project officially, that nobody can scam others with trading coins on the loss of the clueless

2) Start the main nodes and make an official block explorer running again

If they should not move, they loose all their reputation. This would be too bad about this project.

Devs had 2 months to respond. And they didn't. Most likely they will do nothing.
What options does community have?

Who gave devs the two months to respond? And how much time for your answers would you have given to kaselit?

[kneim]

And how much time will you need to answer my questions?

[Byte16]

Because anybody can create circles of wallets with a unique fork, and start anytime in the past, and because nobody can control it by a block explorer, the coin seems to be dead at this time. In my opinion the devs have two options:

1) Stop the project officially, that nobody can scam others with trading coins on the loss of the clueless

2) Start the main nodes and make an official block explorer running again

If they should not move, they loose all their reputation. This would be too bad about this project.

Devs had 2 months to respond. And they didn't. Most likely they will do nothing.
What options does community have?

if you are going to move back might some pages you will see that kaselit already make some moves on his own, i'm not sure what is the update from this project but  it  will allow Mrai to be use in exchange to his new project.

kaselit already cancel his project.

Because anybody can create circles of wallets with a unique fork, and start anytime in the past, and because nobody can control it by a block explorer, the coin seems to be dead at this time. In my opinion the devs have two options:

1) Stop the project officially, that nobody can scam others with trading coins on the loss of the clueless

2) Start the main nodes and make an official block explorer running again

If they should not move, they loose all their reputation. This would be too bad about this project.

Devs had 2 months to respond. And they didn't. Most likely they will do nothing.
What options does community have?

Who gave devs the two months to respond? And how much time for your answers would you have given to kaselit?

That's fact: they didn't answer since May 22 (May 22 - last post on Telergam, May 19 - last commit at Github, May 18 - last twit, May 12 - last post here). Aproximately 2 month.
Where in this topic did you find my questions to kaselit?

[iTradeChips]

the people with huge loads of raiblocks should initiate a takeover or forking of this project. kaselit already gave up. its okay at least he tried. this has happened with many other coins before. with the right people this coin will be good again. those who can code should step forward. those with bagloads can maybe contribute to give bounties etc. it can be done guys if we want it bad enough.

[kneim]

the people with huge loads of raiblocks should initiate a takeover or forking of this project. kaselit already gave up. its okay at least he tried. this has happened with many other coins before. with the right people this coin will be good again. those who can code should step forward. those with bagloads can maybe contribute to give bounties etc. it can be done guys if we want it bad enough.

Does this make sense?

Original devs have a shitload of coins, that they could sell on other's work.
Which persons have huge loads of raiblocks? We will never find out.
My investments into raiblocks are comparable with a donation to the devs. If they don't want to develop even more, they should keep running the network and hand their work over to others. They did a good work until now, and I see no reason or constraint for them to go on.
I myself have no reason to donate more, why should I? Sellers already have some Bitcoins from me.
Theoretically there could be an agreement between human beings, to donate a part of the gains to the project. But man is not human any more, a lot will not do.

So summarized a team of competent devs could simply clone it, and start it from the beginning. How to distribute coins should be discussed before in the community. Human rules should be followed all the time: dezentralization; equal treatment; thinking long-term; define the addressee of this coin (no it's not the devs nor the community); how many coins are acceptable to the devs, and how will they be distributed; democratic processes with about 75% agreement; In a human world small instances have always advantages over large instances.

I have seen a lot of greedy stupid comments the last months, and with this team it will not work.

[iTradeChips]

the people with huge loads of raiblocks should initiate a takeover or forking of this project. kaselit already gave up. its okay at least he tried. this has happened with many other coins before. with the right people this coin will be good again. those who can code should step forward. those with bagloads can maybe contribute to give bounties etc. it can be done guys if we want it bad enough.

Does this make sense?

Original devs have a shitload of coins, that they could sell on other's work.
Which persons have huge loads of raiblocks? We will never find out.
My investments into raiblocks are comparable with a donation to the devs. If they don't want to develop even more, they should keep running the network and hand their work over to others. They did a good work until now, and I see no reason or constraint for them to go on.
I myself have no reason to donate more, why should I? Sellers already have some Bitcoins from me.
Theoretically there could be an agreement between human beings, to donate a part of the gains to the project. But man is not human any more, a lot will not do.

So summarized a team of competent devs could simply clone it, and start it from the beginning. How to distribute coins should be discussed before in the community. Human rules should be followed all the time: dezentralization; equal treatment; define the addressee of this coin (no it's not the devs nor the community); how many coins are acceptable to the devs, and how will they be distributed; democratic processes with about 75% agreement; In a human world small instances have always advantages over large instances.

I have seen a lot of greedy stupid comments the last months, and with this team it will not work.

yes its much simpler if it gets cloned and start over again for a fair distribution. i forgot about the possibility that the original devs could just dump the bulk of coins from the undistributed genesis account.

how about this : a coinswap to a fresh clone while making sure the remaining coins from the genesis account do not get to move to swap? in short, only those coins which were farmed through faucets gets to be swapped.

[kneim]

how about this : a coinswap to a fresh clone while making sure the remaining coins from the genesis account do not get to move to swap? in short, only those coins which were farmed through faucets gets to be swapped.

How many Mrai coins do you own?

[iTradeChips]

not to be exact, i will declare i have between zero and 100k only. not much. i have seen others on here holding about a million or so out of the 13m distibuted so far.

and what do you think about my previous suggestion? is it feasible? maybe a manual check everytime a swap is done just to make sure the genesis account is untouched. and then proceed with the swap? watchathink?

[kneim]

not to be exact, i will declare i have between zero and 100k only. not much. i have seen others on here holding about a million or so out of the 13m distibuted so far.

and what do you think about my previous suggestion? is it feasible? maybe a manual check everytime a swap is done just to make sure the genesis account is untouched. and then proceed with the swap? watchathink?

It's unneccessarily complicated, and I do not see any reason to exclude the original devs. They are not my enemy, and never will be.

[iTradeChips]

not to be exact, i will declare i have between zero and 100k only. not much. i have seen others on here holding about a million or so out of the 13m distibuted so far.

and what do you think about my previous suggestion? is it feasible? maybe a manual check everytime a swap is done just to make sure the genesis account is untouched. and then proceed with the swap? watchathink?

It's unneccessarily complicated, and I do not see any reason to exclude the original devs. They are not my enemy, and never will be.

this does not mean the original devs are excluded. this is just to make sure they would not dump the undistributed coins. they could even be secretly holding coins from other wallets that farmed thru faucets too and thats fine. because those coins were gained fairly.

i am not a coder so im not really sure if that idea is feasible or not. but i think its fair. and considering there are really not that many adopters of mrai yet, i think it can be done.

why not do a claiming of ownership of the richlist like what other coins do in their blockexplorers?

[kneim]

not to be exact, i will declare i have between zero and 100k only. not much. i have seen others on here holding about a million or so out of the 13m distibuted so far.

and what do you think about my previous suggestion? is it feasible? maybe a manual check everytime a swap is done just to make sure the genesis account is untouched. and then proceed with the swap? watchathink?

It's unneccessarily complicated, and I do not see any reason to exclude the original devs. They are not my enemy, and never will be.

this does not mean the original devs are excluded. this is just to make sure they would not dump the undistributed coins. they could even be secretly holding coins from other wallets that farmed thru faucets too and thats fine. because those coins were gained fairly.

i am not a coder so im not really sure if that idea is feasible or not. but i think its fair. and considering there are really not that many adopters of mrai yet, i think it can be done.

why not do a claiming of ownership of the richlist like what other coins do in their blockexplorers?

There could be just an agreement with the original devs to hold 10% of the coins, and distribute the rest.

But I believe, the coin should be developed just a little bit more. As I understood, every person (or other instance) could have his own chain. And this this chain could be created and live and die like any person (or other instance) in the world. This is giving the maximum of decentralisation that is possible.

But what if a person is dying and coins on his chain are lost. How are they substituted? The number of Mrai is fix, and this would lead into a deflation, or not?