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Is owning an offshore bank account illegal?


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April 12, 2016, 10:05:35 PM
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Is owning an offshore bank account illegal?
Not more illegal than using bitcoin mixer.

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https://www.rt.com/uk/339333-used-david-cameron-ebay/


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Listed in the ‘statues and ornaments’ section, “David Cameron” had a ‘Buy Now’ price of £65,900 (US$94,000) before the ad was removed from the site Tuesday.

That’s a steep cost for a “used” item described as being sold “for parts or not working” and “no longer needed.”

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http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/politics/cbc-declines-to-turn-over-panama-papers-data-to-cra-1.3530834

This is funny because they are both arms of the government. Also references papers being put online in may.

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April 13, 2016, 01:42:48 AM
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Swiss banker whistleblower: CIA behind Panama Papers









 Bradley Birkenfeld is the most significant financial whistleblower of all time, so you might think he'd be cheering on the disclosures in the new Panama Papers leaks. But today, Birkenfeld is raising questions about the source of the information that is shaking political regimes around the world.

Birkenfeld, an American citizen, was a banker working at UBS in Switzerland when he approached the U.S. government with information on massive amounts of tax evasion by Americans with secret accounts in Switzerland. By the end of his whistleblowing career, Birkenfeld had served more than two years in a U.S. federal prison, been awarded $104 million by the IRS for his information and shattered the foundations of more than a century of Swiss banking secrecy.

 In an exclusive interview Tuesday from Munich, Birkenfeld said he doesn't think the source of the 11 million documents stolen from a Panamanian law firm should automatically be considered a whistleblower like himself. Instead, he said, the hacking of the Panama City-based firm, called Mossack Fonseca, could have been done by a U.S. intelligence agency.

"The CIA I'm sure is behind this, in my opinion," Birkenfeld said.

Birkenfeld pointed to the fact that the political uproar created by the disclosures have mainly impacted countries with tense relationships with the United States. "The very fact that we see all these names surface that are the direct quote-unquote enemies of the United States, Russia, China, Pakistan, Argentina and we don't see one U.S. name. Why is that?" Birkenfeld said. "Quite frankly, my feeling is that this is certainly an intelligence agency operation."

Asked why the U.S. would leak information that has also been damaging to U.K. Prime Minister David Cameron, a major American ally, Birkenfeld said the British leader was likely collateral damage in a larger intelligence operation.

"If you've got NSA and CIA spying on foreign governments they can certainly get into a law firm like this," Birkenfeld said. "But they selectively bring the information to the public domain that doesn't hurt the U.S. in any shape or form. That's wrong. And there's something seriously sinister here behind this."

The public relations office for the CIA did not immediately return a message for comment.

Birkenfeld also said that during his time as a Swiss banker, Mossack Fonseca was known as one piece of the vast offshore maze used by bankers and lawyers to hide money from tax authorities. But he also said that the firm that is at the center of the global scandal was also seen as a relatively small player in the overall offshore tax evasion business.

"We knew that firm very well in Switzerland. I certainly knew of it," Birkenfeld said.

But Mossack Fonseca was just one of a number of firms in Panama offering such services, he said. "The cost of doing business there was quite low, relatively speaking," he said. "So what you would have is Panama operating as a conduit to the Swiss banks and the trust companies to set up these facilities for clients around the world."


http://www.cnbc.com/2016/04/12/swiss-banker-whistleblower-cia-behind-panama-papers.html



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April 13, 2016, 01:58:00 AM
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CIA and George Soros have their hand in this for sure. Wouldn´t be surprised if they already have tons more  which they´ll leak gradually.
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April 13, 2016, 02:29:01 AM
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Does seem to point more towards the States, also see the full papers are not going to be available. Potentially meaning backs are being scratched. Find it interesting that Putin in a sense saw this coming.

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April 13, 2016, 04:24:35 AM
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This is much bigger and more wide ranging. It´ll be extremely difficult to defraud this off the table. Millions of documents. It´s bribes, tax evasion, criminality.
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April 13, 2016, 08:36:08 AM
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This is much bigger and more wide ranging. It´ll be extremely difficult to defraud this off the table. Millions of documents. It´s bribes, tax evasion, criminality.

I think someone said this exact same thing back there.
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April 13, 2016, 08:40:19 AM
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I know that I'm not involved. Smiley
Really, it's a shame that something like this was going on for years and that politicians and other high ranked persons were robbering their countries and their people. And what punishment will they get? Probably none.

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April 13, 2016, 11:49:14 AM
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Panama raided the company now, cover up or more to come! Should be interesting.

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April 13, 2016, 12:59:51 PM
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Is owning an offshore bank account illegal?
Not more illegal than using bitcoin mixer.

By the way,

https://www.rt.com/uk/339333-used-david-cameron-ebay/


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Listed in the ‘statues and ornaments’ section, “David Cameron” had a ‘Buy Now’ price of £65,900 (US$94,000) before the ad was removed from the site Tuesday.

That’s a steep cost for a “used” item described as being sold “for parts or not working” and “no longer needed.”

 Grin Grin Grin

Smiley Made me chuckle. Seems way too overpriced for a washed-out politician like Dodgy Dave, maybe it included postage and packaging.

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April 14, 2016, 09:23:02 AM
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Ofcourse CIA is behind Panama Papers like Wikileaks Papers in past.
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April 14, 2016, 10:20:40 AM
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A big point of all this is that people are free.

You have people in governments using their freedom by attempting to make money off people not in government.

You have people not in government using their freedom by attempting to make money off anybody.

Anyone can do the Panama Papers thing. He can do it personally by studying and joining together with one or more knowledgeable like minded people. Or he can use funds he already has to buy a setup for himself from companies like Mossack Fonseca.

One of the best setups around is NOT offshore. It is right in the United States. It is based on a couple of basic tenets of freedom found in the 1st Amendment to the Constitution... freedom of speech, and freedom of religion.

Any two people can get together and form a church. Because of the 1st Amendment (which is backed by basic English and American common law), a church has a wide range of freedoms that the government can't attack successfully... if the people know what they are doing.

One of the biggest church freedoms is freedom from income taxes. If the church is run properly, it is excluded from the IRS altogether. If the people running the church know a little about common law, they can repel even the strongest IRS attacks against their church with ease. See http://www.theultimateinassetprotection.com/?ref=SWC for some basics about a sure way to do this.

The amazing thing is that people have been trained into thinking that starting a church for protecting one's self or family from government operated racketeering is wrong. Government continually dumbs-down people in their training in school so that they are ripe for the picking.

The various religions help to keep people ignorant of the financial protection available to them through a church. The simple, everyday religious leaders are honest enough in what they are doing. Yet, all but a few of them realize how powerful freedom of religion is in the States. So, they make the setting up of one's affairs as a church to look like it is a bad thing.

From http://www.theultimateinassetprotection.com/taxlaw/:
... instead of asking the IRS’ permission to be a church (as you would with a 1023 application to obtain 501(c)(3) status), you declare the existence of your church under IRC 508(a).
In other words, if your church becomes a 501(c)(3) tax exempt organization, it isn't a church. It is a corporation or other entity. If it is a 508(c)(1)(A) organization, it can be a church, and is an "excepted" organization outside of IRS control.

Someone has twisted the minds of the people in the local churches to make their church an exempt corporation under IRS scrutiny rather than an excepted organization completely outside of IRS control.

Time for people to take up their freedom and form their own church so that they don't have to go offshore to protect their assets.

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April 14, 2016, 04:51:48 PM
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We are in the cycle of the rich separating from the poor at a large percentage,so their money influences government more than any movement to correct things could ever do. With the middle class stagnant or retracting we will most likely see more tax dodging in the future from the rich. A lot of people do not realize how much any one making over $220K a year is getting taxed,or should be taxed! The loop holes are plentiful and most new bills to close loops are only to strangle the working class.
If people paid roughly the 48%-52% tax over 220K here in Canada without using all the tricks of the trade we would be looking at a health economy.

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April 15, 2016, 07:32:34 PM
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So they raided the place and thats the last I ever head about this issue,did anything come of it or is it all being hushed up through the raid?

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Swiss banker whistleblower: CIA behind Panama Papers









 Bradley Birkenfeld is the most significant financial whistleblower of all time, so you might think he'd be cheering on the disclosures in the new Panama Papers leaks. But today, Birkenfeld is raising questions about the source of the information that is shaking political regimes around the world.

Birkenfeld, an American citizen, was a banker working at UBS in Switzerland when he approached the U.S. government with information on massive amounts of tax evasion by Americans with secret accounts in Switzerland. By the end of his whistleblowing career, Birkenfeld had served more than two years in a U.S. federal prison, been awarded $104 million by the IRS for his information and shattered the foundations of more than a century of Swiss banking secrecy.

 In an exclusive interview Tuesday from Munich, Birkenfeld said he doesn't think the source of the 11 million documents stolen from a Panamanian law firm should automatically be considered a whistleblower like himself. Instead, he said, the hacking of the Panama City-based firm, called Mossack Fonseca, could have been done by a U.S. intelligence agency.

"The CIA I'm sure is behind this, in my opinion," Birkenfeld said.

Birkenfeld pointed to the fact that the political uproar created by the disclosures have mainly impacted countries with tense relationships with the United States. "The very fact that we see all these names surface that are the direct quote-unquote enemies of the United States, Russia, China, Pakistan, Argentina and we don't see one U.S. name. Why is that?" Birkenfeld said. "Quite frankly, my feeling is that this is certainly an intelligence agency operation."

Asked why the U.S. would leak information that has also been damaging to U.K. Prime Minister David Cameron, a major American ally, Birkenfeld said the British leader was likely collateral damage in a larger intelligence operation.

"If you've got NSA and CIA spying on foreign governments they can certainly get into a law firm like this," Birkenfeld said. "But they selectively bring the information to the public domain that doesn't hurt the U.S. in any shape or form. That's wrong. And there's something seriously sinister here behind this."

The public relations office for the CIA did not immediately return a message for comment.

Birkenfeld also said that during his time as a Swiss banker, Mossack Fonseca was known as one piece of the vast offshore maze used by bankers and lawyers to hide money from tax authorities. But he also said that the firm that is at the center of the global scandal was also seen as a relatively small player in the overall offshore tax evasion business.

"We knew that firm very well in Switzerland. I certainly knew of it," Birkenfeld said.

But Mossack Fonseca was just one of a number of firms in Panama offering such services, he said. "The cost of doing business there was quite low, relatively speaking," he said. "So what you would have is Panama operating as a conduit to the Swiss banks and the trust companies to set up these facilities for clients around the world."


http://www.cnbc.com/2016/04/12/swiss-banker-whistleblower-cia-behind-panama-papers.html





Its great that this dude is shedding help light for one of many law firms that probably are doing the same thing.

When you hear the word "Panama" the word automatically reminds you of money laundering.. so even if we got one of the 4th largest one, its a matter of will this hush up the others or they continue business as nothing happened.

Keep in mind these are "elite" 1% of people who probably have bigger ties of network then the average joe.
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April 18, 2016, 05:40:30 PM
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IRS Urges Americans: Come Clean Now, Before We Read Panama Papers
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/panama-papers/irs-urges-americans-come-clean-now-we-read-panama-papers-n557246

Two global meetings have been held and I did not see any news on that at all! Nothing like getting all on the same page to make sure the public some how ends up getting raped over a issue they created.

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IRS Urges Americans: Come Clean Now, Before We Read Panama Papers
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/panama-papers/irs-urges-americans-come-clean-now-we-read-panama-papers-n557246

Two global meetings have been held and I did not see any news on that at all! Nothing like getting all on the same page to make sure the public some how ends up getting raped over a issue they created.

Thats normal media for you lol.

And its possible that the media network owners are also probably linked since its within the top 1% of people in america and other countries as well.

Also no ones going to come forward, honestly. The law firms job is to solely protect the identity from the true owner or they lose business.. they have technical experts as mentioned that removed all the e-files so the us district attorneys cant touch them to even start a motion.

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Canada is assigning 440 million to track down 2.6 billion in tax shelters. The problem with that is the rich always have a choice to pay without penalty and get a slap on the wrist well the average joe gets his bank account locked,daily phone calls and wages docked. So its a waste of money if they continue in that pattern,which I do not see changing any time soon.

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Panama Papers: US launches criminal inquiry into tax avoidance claims


The US Department of Justice has launched a criminal investigation into the widespread international tax avoidance schemes exposed by the Panama Papers leak, published by the Guardian and other journalistic partners.

Preet Bharara, the US attorney for Manhattan, said he had “opened a criminal investigation regarding matters to which the Panama Papers are relevant”.

Bharara has written to the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists (ICIJ), which coordinated the unprecedented leak of 11.5m files from offshore law firm Mossack Fonseca, to ask for further information to assist with his criminal investigation.

The inquiry comes after Barack Obama described the revelations from the leaks – which have caused political tumult across the world – “important stuff” and global tax avoidance as a “huge problem”.

“There is no doubt that the problem of global tax avoidance generally is a huge problem,” Obama told reporters in an unscheduled appearance in the White House briefing room earlier this month. “The problem is that a lot of this stuff is legal, not illegal.

Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/apr/19/panama-papers-us-justice-department-investigation-tax-avoidance
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