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April 08, 2016, 10:38:51 PM
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that's... disturbing.  Undecided
unless they do something about that, people will have to rely on a really trusted users from outside of OB.
though that article you quoted doesn't have anything to do with what I said. you don't need to use a moderator to leave a review.

Chicken or egg problem. They have no choice but to have overly permissive access to mod/arbitrator accounts, as potential sellers cannot even build up good feedback scores from buying from other sellers (because no-one has an OB tx history). Think about it: this problem will only have been worse for the early eBay, and their early customers probably solved the problem the same way you're thinking.

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April 08, 2016, 10:52:12 PM
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that's... disturbing.  Undecided
unless they do something about that, people will have to rely on a really trusted users from outside of OB.
though that article you quoted doesn't have anything to do with what I said. you don't need to use a moderator to leave a review.

Chicken or egg problem. They have no choice but to have overly permissive access to mod/arbitrator accounts, as potential sellers cannot even build up good feedback scores from buying from other sellers (because no-one has an OB tx history). Think about it: this problem will only have been worse for the early eBay, and their early customers probably solved the problem the same way you're thinking.

Early eBay didn't base its business on anonymity -- the parties involved were (at least in theory) known to a trusted third party called eBay.
Given a choice of trusting Anon from the interweb or a registered business with IRL address and stuff... well... call me a statist corporate sheep, but I feel a touch safer wit eBay Undecided
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April 08, 2016, 11:04:18 PM
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--snipe--

You might just find a good Desktop for sale at opening ceremony of OpenBaazar  Roll Eyes I'd suggest you to go for an assembled Desktop with Ubuntu.
Christ I need to get out more.  I don't even know what Ubuntu is.  Wasn't kidding about being a recluse, and I don't watch TV either and so I don't find out about these things unless I come here.  This section is much nicer than the bitcoin part of bitcointalk.  You guys snipe each other like a mound of bitches but the vibe is much different.

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April 08, 2016, 11:41:46 PM
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-snipe-

that's... disturbing.  Undecided
unless they do something about that, people will have to rely on a really trusted users from outside of OB.
though that article you quoted doesn't have anything to do with what I said. you don't need to use a moderator to leave a review.

Chicken or egg problem. They have no choice but to have overly permissive access to mod/arbitrator accounts, as potential sellers cannot even build up good feedback scores from buying from other sellers (because no-one has an OB tx history). Think about it: this problem will only have been worse for the early eBay, and their early customers probably solved the problem the same way you're thinking.

Early eBay didn't base its business on anonymity -- the parties involved were (at least in theory) known to a trusted third party called eBay.
Given a choice of trusting Anon from the interweb or a registered business with IRL address and stuff... well... call me a statist corporate sheep, but I feel a touch safer wit eBay Undecided


Yep, you're a statist coporate sheep alright. Do you even Bitcoin? Can you reply without lying/trolling? The answer's "no", isn't it

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April 08, 2016, 11:50:06 PM
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--snipe--

You might just find a good Desktop for sale at opening ceremony of OpenBaazar  Roll Eyes I'd suggest you to go for an assembled Desktop with Ubuntu.
Christ I need to get out more.  I don't even know what Ubuntu is.  Wasn't kidding about being a recluse, and I don't watch TV either and so I don't find out about these things unless I come here.  This section is much nicer than the bitcoin part of bitcointalk.  You guys snipe each other like a mound of bitches but the vibe is much different.

Ubuntu is a popular flavor of Linux, a PC operating system.  The good thing about Linux is it's free, and has plenty of free software that's almost, though not quite, as good as the fancy store-bought (or pirated) Windows counterpart. It's also much easier to tinker with, since it's [mostly] open source.
OTOH, it's unlikely that you are a tinkerer if you don't own a computer, and most pretty much all computers come with Windows pre-installed when you buy them.
If it matters, less than 2% of laptops/desktops use Linux (so ~1 in 100 computers runs Ubuntu).

So I'd say brave the outside & buy yourself a cheap new laptop if you have the money, cheap used crappy laptop if you don't, and a cheap desktop (remember, you also need to buy a monitor [screen, display], mouse & keyboard & a cheap wifi adapter for that) if really broke.
Plus side: Life will become 100% better.
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April 08, 2016, 11:54:17 PM
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-snipe-

that's... disturbing.  Undecided
unless they do something about that, people will have to rely on a really trusted users from outside of OB.
though that article you quoted doesn't have anything to do with what I said. you don't need to use a moderator to leave a review.

Chicken or egg problem. They have no choice but to have overly permissive access to mod/arbitrator accounts, as potential sellers cannot even build up good feedback scores from buying from other sellers (because no-one has an OB tx history). Think about it: this problem will only have been worse for the early eBay, and their early customers probably solved the problem the same way you're thinking.

Early eBay didn't base its business on anonymity -- the parties involved were (at least in theory) known to a trusted third party called eBay.
Given a choice of trusting Anon from the interweb or a registered business with IRL address and stuff... well... call me a statist corporate sheep, but I feel a touch safer wit eBay Undecided


Yep, you're a statist coporate sheep alright. Do you even Bitcoin? Can you reply without lying/trolling? The answer's "no", isn't it

Carlton my boy, odds are I sold you your first coin. Your recent asshattery on this forum makes it ... well, almost morally justifiable Smiley
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April 09, 2016, 12:00:19 AM
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Carlton my boy, odds are I sold you your first coin. Your recent asshattery on this forum makes me doing that to you ... well, almost morally justifiable Smiley

You won't have any qualms proving it then.

Sign a message from a pre-2014 tx and it's possible that someone might believe your "OG Bitcoiner brah" claims. I'm waiting.

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April 09, 2016, 12:06:44 AM
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Carlton my boy, odds are I sold you your first coin. Your recent asshattery on this forum makes me doing that to you ... well, almost morally justifiable Smiley

You won't have any qualms proving it then.

Sign a message from a pre-2014 tx and it's possible that someone might believe your "OG Bitcoiner brah" claims. I'm waiting.

Waste years of mixing to prove something to Anon from the interweb?  I mean sure, Ross kept a detailed diary, with all of his feels re. hiring zomg a 4realz Angels hitman!!!1, but don't assume everyone is that stupid Cheesy

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April 09, 2016, 12:07:27 AM
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--snipe--

You might just find a good Desktop for sale at opening ceremony of OpenBaazar  Roll Eyes I'd suggest you to go for an assembled Desktop with Ubuntu.
Christ I need to get out more.  I don't even know what Ubuntu is.  Wasn't kidding about being a recluse, and I don't watch TV either and so I don't find out about these things unless I come here.  This section is much nicer than the bitcoin part of bitcointalk.  You guys snipe each other like a mound of bitches but the vibe is much different.
Sounds like you just need to prose /r/pcmasterrace more, you'll get to know a lot of these terms from there fairly quickly.

As for the arguing among us in BTCD, I'll admit that it's probably more fun arguing on the internet anyways, because no-one will remember the argument unless it is brought back up again or someone had a serious issue with the other person (or if you're an SJW).
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April 09, 2016, 12:15:22 AM
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--snipe--

You might just find a good Desktop for sale at opening ceremony of OpenBaazar  Roll Eyes I'd suggest you to go for an assembled Desktop with Ubuntu.

i guesss even though the design is not the one of the prettiest that are out there i believe that it has a still long time to go till the best version of it and hopefully it will be updatedon weekly basis.
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April 09, 2016, 12:31:27 AM
 #131

--snipe--

You might just find a good Desktop for sale at opening ceremony of OpenBaazar  Roll Eyes I'd suggest you to go for an assembled Desktop with Ubuntu.
Christ I need to get out more.  I don't even know what Ubuntu is.  Wasn't kidding about being a recluse, and I don't watch TV either and so I don't find out about these things unless I come here.  This section is much nicer than the bitcoin part of bitcointalk.  You guys snipe each other like a mound of bitches but the vibe is much different.

Ubuntu is a popular flavor of Linux, a PC operating system.  The good thing about Linux is it's free, and has plenty of free software that's almost, though not quite, as good as the fancy store-bought (or pirated) Windows counterpart. It's also much easier to tinker with, since it's [mostly] open source.
OTOH, it's unlikely that you are a tinkerer if you don't own a computer, and most pretty much all computers come with Windows pre-installed when you buy them.
If it matters, less than 2% of laptops/desktops use Linux (so ~1 in 100 computers runs Ubuntu).

So I'd say brave the outside & buy yourself a cheap new laptop if you have the money, cheap used crappy laptop if you don't, and a cheap desktop (remember, you also need to buy a monitor [screen, display], mouse & keyboard & a cheap wifi adapter for that) if really broke.
Plus side: Life will become 100% better.
That is nice, sir, I appreciate it.  I already have a monitor, mouse & keyboard but my ancient Dell has shat the bed.  And my neighbor upstairs moved out, leaving me without cheap wifi.  Money is definitely tight.  But thank you for the explanation about the operating systems.  I am not a tinkerer by any means but this interests me.  I picked the wrong major in college, let me tell you.

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April 09, 2016, 12:46:53 AM
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^^Paste "tethering a phone to a computer" into Google -- solve your wifi problem (will be as slow as your phone, but will cost you zip).
If you're into tinkering, tinker that Dell back to life; if in Big City, plenty of computers at the curb on trash days.
Caveat: must go outside.
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April 09, 2016, 01:43:15 PM
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Damned thing! It seems I can't even close the software without being connected, which I'm unable to do. There's that full width nav bar on top of the window, but there's nothing on it. I'll have to close it via the Windows' task manager.

Is this still a beta release?


close it from taskbar.

I tried, but it didn't work... But I've just launched it, and I'm pleased to see that OB is working today. But I haven't understood why it wasn't working yesterday. Hey, if I want to use OB for business, I need 100% reliability. I wonder how OB will compete against Ethereum.

I guess success will come from users, if there are enough people offering interesting products or services. Could it be possible to build a new Silk Road market out of OB?

I used to be a citizen and a taxpayer. Those days are long gone.
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April 09, 2016, 02:09:16 PM
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Damned thing! It seems I can't even close the software without being connected, which I'm unable to do. There's that full width nav bar on top of the window, but there's nothing on it. I'll have to close it via the Windows' task manager.

Is this still a beta release?


close it from taskbar.

I tried, but it didn't work... But I've just launched it, and I'm pleased to see that OB is working today. But I haven't understood why it wasn't working yesterday. Hey, if I want to use OB for business, I need 100% reliability. I wonder how OB will compete against Ethereum.

I guess success will come from users, if there are enough people offering interesting products or services. Could it be possible to build a new Silk Road market out of OB?

OpenBazaar Is Not The Next Silk Road -- It's An Anarchist eBay On Acid

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April 09, 2016, 02:13:18 PM
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I tried, but it didn't work... But I've just launched it, and I'm pleased to see that OB is working today. But I haven't understood why it wasn't working yesterday. Hey, if I want to use OB for business, I need 100% reliability.

Try using Linux or Mac, Windows (and the way the other apps you have installed on your PC manifest themselves with Windows) is likely making any early problems with OB much worse than they really are. Microsoft have always had a bad record with supervising different bits of software to play nice with one another.

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April 09, 2016, 02:19:14 PM
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I tried, but it didn't work... But I've just launched it, and I'm pleased to see that OB is working today. But I haven't understood why it wasn't working yesterday. Hey, if I want to use OB for business, I need 100% reliability.

Try using Linux or Mac, Windows (and the way the other apps you have installed on your PC manifest themselves with Windows) is likely making any early problems with OB much worse than they really are. Microsoft have always had a bad record with supervising different bits of software to play nice with one another.

brb, buying a Mac to run OB Cheesy
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April 09, 2016, 03:01:10 PM
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I think in my country nobody is selling nothing here... so it's just waste for me  Undecided

maybe. but you can still ship stuff from overseas. the shipping fee can be a killer depending on where you live though.

oh and there's also digital goods that can be transferred anywhere.
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April 09, 2016, 03:03:26 PM
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I think in my country nobody is selling nothing here... so it's just waste for me  Undecided

maybe. but you can still ship stuff from overseas. the shipping fee can be a killer depending on where you live though.

Not if the stuff's relatively light Smiley

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April 09, 2016, 03:06:11 PM
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Its another good project which involve only bitcoins as the mode of payment.
We need such types of Bazar / Shops to promote bitcoins
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April 09, 2016, 04:28:01 PM
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Haven't got a first impression of it since I haven't tried it yet and not so keen on trying it near future either, I'll let others take the tour for now and report on it and then maybe I'll join later. Since I don't buy too much stuff online, I am not too enthused about it, let's see what becomes of it.

 

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