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AriesIV10 (OP)
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July 05, 2016, 12:18:17 PM Last edit: July 05, 2016, 04:18:13 PM by AriesIV10 |
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NEW PRICE: $13,500.00
I am with CKPool: Kano.is
Average Blocks per day over the past 4 months: * Mar 2016, 129 Blocks, 4.16 Blks/Day * Apr 2016, 134 Blocks, 4.47 Blks/Day * May 2016, 126 Blocks, 4.07 Blks/Day * Jun 2016, 132 Blocks, 4.40 Blks/Day
4.275 average blocks per day
Quick Math: Today July 4th 2016 my pool (CKPool) hit 4 blocks. My total Payout was $277.37. $277.37 x 30 days per month = $8321.10. Halving it would be $4160.55
If you would like to do the numbers with the average per day 4.275: $277.37/4=$69.34 per block; $69.34 x 4.275 ave per day = $296.43 ave per day; $296.43 * 30 days per month = $8892.90 ave per month; After halving $4445 ave per month.
Another factor is the increase in Bitcoin over the next six months that would negate or at least mitigate the difficulty.
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If you purchased brand new from Bitmain:
S7 x $440 x 30 = $13200.00 Shipping S7s - $54 x 30 = $1620.00 PSU $140 x 16 = $2240.00 Shipping PSUs $43 x 16 = $688
Total 30 New S7s and 16 PSUs = $17,748.00 + Wait time for delivery + Setup/Startup Issues.
NEW PRICE: $13,500.00
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July 06, 2016, 12:10:18 PM |
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I am with CKPool: Kano.is
Average Blocks per day over the past 4 months: * Mar 2016, 129 Blocks, 4.16 Blks/Day * Apr 2016, 134 Blocks, 4.47 Blks/Day * May 2016, 126 Blocks, 4.07 Blks/Day * Jun 2016, 132 Blocks, 4.40 Blks/Day
4.275 average blocks per day
Quick Math: Today July 4th 2016 my pool (CKPool) hit 4 blocks. My total Payout was $277.37. $277.37 x 30 days per month = $8321.10. Halving it would be $4160.55
If you would like to do the numbers with the average per day 4.275: $277.37/4=$69.34 per block; $69.34 x 4.275 ave per day = $296.43 ave per day; $296.43 * 30 days per month = $8892.90 ave per month; After halving $4445 ave per month.
Another factor is the increase in Bitcoin over the next six months that would negate or at least mitigate the difficulty.
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If you purchased brand new it would be:
S7 x $440 x 30 = $13200.00 Shipping S7s - $54 x 30 = $1620.00 PSU $140 x 16 = $2240.00 Shipping PSUs $43 x 16 = $688
Total 30 New S7s and 16 PSUs = $17,748.00 + Wait time for delivery + Setup/Startup Issues.
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July 06, 2016, 03:04:23 PM |
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Correct Shipping Costs S7 Purchase: Shipping .133 = 89.77 S9 Purchase: Shipping .108 = $72.90
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July 06, 2016, 03:52:02 PM |
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When you buy qty the price goes down per miner for shipping. You cannot just stick one in your cart and extrapolate.
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July 06, 2016, 09:13:24 PM |
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FOR SALE: 30 S7s and 14 PSUs = $13,500.00 USD Already Collocated and sold in place with contract until December 25th, 2016
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43 S7s and 19 PSUs = $19,500.00 USD Already Collocated and sold in place with contract until December 25th, 2016
Your Choice, Great Deal either way!
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July 06, 2016, 11:06:36 PM |
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FOR SALE: 30 S7s and 14 PSUs = $13,500.00 USD Already Collocated and sold in place with contract until December 25th, 2016
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43 S7s and 19 PSUs = $19,500.00 USD Already Collocated and sold in place with contract until December 25th, 2016
Your Choice, Great Deal either way!
So , you added to the deal 13x S7 and 5 more PSU for 6000 USD ? With new price 5720 for miners and 700 for PSU-s. Total 6420 USD Your discount rate for this 13xS7 and 5x PSU is 6.5% from new price. How it went now to Great Deal ?You get more... If you would like an exact ratio...Then the offer would be $19,350.00. I just wanted to round it off.
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July 07, 2016, 07:25:18 AM |
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There is a bunch of these not getting sold on eBay for even $300.
Its seems that alot of people lost interest in mining recently. Probably because of the halving. Or because ETH is twice as profitable and hardware is half the cost.
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July 07, 2016, 12:24:53 PM |
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There is a bunch of these not getting sold on eBay for even $300.
Its seems that alot of people lost interest in mining recently. Probably because of the halving. Or because ETH is twice as profitable and hardware is half the cost.
I disagree - I watch eBay daily. I would even pick a couple up at a very low price as you mentioned. Here is what is today just as I found your post: I only see $400 and above except for the one that is not hashing correctly, but even that one is going for $300.00
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July 07, 2016, 04:04:13 PM |
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Just pay to break your contract with the mining facility and have all the S7's and PSU's delivered to you.
Then you can sell them 1 at a time on eBay for more.
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July 07, 2016, 04:19:37 PM |
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Just pay to break your contract with the mining facility and have all the S7's and PSU's delivered to you.
Then you can sell them 1 at a time on eBay for more.
Now that would be the solution! Haha . Thanks for the info.
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July 07, 2016, 04:25:38 PM |
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Let's look at some numbers here. Please let me know if you calculate them with different results.
1.) Electrical cost going forward: $80 per miner * 30 miners = $2400 per month 2.) Rental cost of power supplies: $5 per miner * 16 miners = $80 per month
Total monthly cost: $2480 Total monthly Btc: $4160 (from your previous post) -------------------------------- Total monthly income: $1680 (difference from above)
Six months income: $1680 * 6 = $10,080
Six months (July 10th to January 10th), I'm assuming the difficulty would have increased significantly by then.
1.) That's also assuming all miners are up and running at 100% all the time. With the heat coming this summer in eastern Washington I would expect some downtime and possibly lose some miners to overheating. 2.) Again you would need to calculate the difficulty increase. 5%...10%....20% over six month? 10% would knock approximately $1000 off the six months total income. 3.) What will be the resale value of the S7's and power supplies when the contract is over (~2017)?
Let me know what ya think? Are you open to offers?
Thanks much --TW
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July 07, 2016, 05:23:49 PM |
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Let's look at some numbers here. Please let me know if you calculate them with different results.
1.) Electrical cost going forward: $80 per miner * 30 miners = $2400 per month 2.) Rental cost of power supplies: $5 per miner * 16 miners = $80 per month
Total monthly cost: $2480 Total monthly Btc: $4160 (from your previous post) -------------------------------- Total monthly income: $1680 (difference from above)
Six months income: $1680 * 6 = $10,080
Six months (July 10th to January 10th), I'm assuming the difficulty would have increased significantly by then.
1.) That's also assuming all miners are up and running at 100% all the time. With the heat coming this summer in eastern Washington I would expect some downtime and possibly lose some miners to overheating. 2.) Again you would need to calculate the difficulty increase. 5%...10%....20% over six month? 10% would knock approximately $1000 off the six months total income. 3.) What will be the resale value of the S7's and power supplies when the contract is over (~2017)?
Let me know what ya think? Are you open to offers?
Thanks much --TW
Very good Analysis. 1) I have already been with this collocation company and have avoided loss of equipment due to running (1 was a DOA). I did have some under clocking from the temps over 100 degrees, but have been compensated for that time. 2) Yes there will be difficulty increases, but to compensate and possibly full negate this would be the increase in bitcoin over the next six months and longer. Last year August bitcoin was setting at $228... 3) PSUs don't really loose their value. They can be used again and again. If you take a look at the S5s on eBay they are still selling for 1/4 of their original cost. People still buy S4s, S5s, S7s...Resale will still be there, especially under $500. I believe that if I hold these miners for the next six months or a year, They can still turn a profit either with their Hashing or their asset value. I am always open to business opportunities.
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July 07, 2016, 08:51:19 PM |
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Let's look at some numbers here. Please let me know if you calculate them with different results.
1.) Electrical cost going forward: $80 per miner * 30 miners = $2400 per month 2.) Rental cost of power supplies: $5 per miner * 16 miners = $80 per month
Total monthly cost: $2480 Total monthly Btc: $4160 (from your previous post) -------------------------------- Total monthly income: $1680 (difference from above)
Six months income: $1680 * 6 = $10,080
Six months (July 10th to January 10th), I'm assuming the difficulty would have increased significantly by then.
1.) That's also assuming all miners are up and running at 100% all the time. With the heat coming this summer in eastern Washington I would expect some downtime and possibly lose some miners to overheating. 2.) Again you would need to calculate the difficulty increase. 5%...10%....20% over six month? 10% would knock approximately $1000 off the six months total income. 3.) What will be the resale value of the S7's and power supplies when the contract is over (~2017)?
Let me know what ya think? Are you open to offers?
Thanks much --TW
Very good Analysis. 1) I have already been with this collocation company and have avoided loss of equipment due to running (1 was a DOA). I did have some under clocking from the temps over 100 degrees, but have been compensated for that time. 2) Yes there will be difficulty increases, but to compensate and possibly full negate this would be the increase in bitcoin over the next six months and longer. Last year August bitcoin was setting at $228... 3) PSUs don't really loose their value. They can be used again and again. If you take a look at the S5s on eBay they are still selling for 1/4 of their original cost. People still buy S4s, S5s, S7s...Resale will still be there, especially under $500. I believe that if I hold these miners for the next six months or a year, They can still turn a profit either with their Hashing or their asset value. I am always open to business opportunities. Thanks! I agree that the btc price 'could' (and probably will) increase in the coming months. Depends mostly on the Chinese currency controls and Yuan devaluation, but everything points in that direction. But: 1.) I just looked up the difficulty increases on https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty for the last nine months and it has more than doubled (over 100% increase) from 1.0e+11 to 2.0e+11. That was a huge under estimate on my part. So first approximation (50% increase in difficulty) of the six month return should be: $10,080 / 2 = $5,040 (just a guesstimate). 2.) Resale value of the miners will drop quickly. I've been selling my S5's and SP20's for $50 each on eBay and lucky to get it. I did get $144 for an S4 though. I'm assuming I'll be selling S7's for the same $50 in six months. Once the S11's come out, both the S9's and S7's will drop quickly in resale value. Thirty S7's * $50 = $1,500 With no increase in difficulty $10,080 + $1,500 = $11,580 With 50% increase in difficulty $5,040 + $1,500 = $6,540 Not sure what a reasonable offer is at this point? Thanks much --TW
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July 08, 2016, 08:19:26 PM |
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FOR SALE - BTC MINING FARM - Same Equipment - Different Options:
Hosted Miners (no shipping costs, no waiting, full control and profit immediately)
Option 1 (141TH/s; $95.75/TH/s) 30 S7s and 14 PSUs = $13,500.00
Option 2 (200TH/s; $97.5/TH/s) 43 S7s and 19 PSUs = $19,500.00
Option 3 (300TH/s; $123.33/TH/s) 8 S9s, 43 S7s and 27 PSUs = $37,000.00
All Options are Already Collocated and sold in place with contract until December 25th, 2016
CONTACT ME FOR INFORMATION
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July 09, 2016, 03:51:07 AM |
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FOR SALE - BTC MINING FARM - Same Equipment - Different Options:
Hosted Miners (no shipping costs, no waiting, full control and profit immediately)
Option 1 (141TH/s; $95.75/TH/s) 30 S7s and 14 PSUs = $13,500.00
Option 2 (200TH/s; $97.5/TH/s) 43 S7s and 19 PSUs = $19,500.00
Option 3 (300TH/s; $123.33/TH/s) 8 S9s, 43 S7s and 27 PSUs = $37,000.00
All Options are Already Collocated and sold in place with contract until December 25th, 2016
CONTACT ME FOR INFORMATION
Are also a fourth Option possible ? Option 4 (100TH/s; $175.00/TH/s) 8 S9s, 8 PSUs = $17,500.00 8x 12,5 THs miner + 8 x 1600W PSU for $17,500.00 How much is hosting costs ? Nope, No Option 4.
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July 09, 2016, 02:37:57 PM |
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Are also a fourth Option possible ?
Option 4
(100TH/s; $175.00/TH/s)
8 S9s, 8 PSUs = $17,500.00
8x 12,5 THs miner + 8 x 1600W PSU for $17,500.00
How much is hosting costs ?
Nope, No Option 4. In this case, my friend must wait when the S9 coming in Hashnest. From tonight, your S7 miners spend 75% of their earnings to pay for hosting. 43x S7 = 3500 USD hosting- 1200 USD profit. Long way to earn 17500 USD. More than a year. 0.001178345 BTC =1THs 200Ths = 0.235669 BTC with PPS payment -2.5% 0.229777 BTC I turned off today my last S7 miners. The only way is currently mining with S9, if you must pay for electricity. But to get with 200THs S9 miners 0.23 BTC day, I spend over 500 kWh in 24 hours, my profit from BTC mining with only S9 miners is less than 100 euro in day. I got more with TITAN-s. So I suggest , sell at any price you will be offered Thank you for your wise opinion. I believe that I will do just fine with keeping them running and making a smaller profit for a few weeks; although, I see some real potential toward the end of July through the end of the year. Thanks for your great input. This dog can still hunt! haha
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July 11, 2016, 06:40:24 PM |
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FOR SALE - BTC MINING FARM - Same Equipment - Different Options:
Hosted Miners (no shipping costs, no waiting, full control and profit immediately)
Option 1 (141TH/s; $95.75/TH/s) 30 S7s and 14 PSUs = $13,500.00
Option 2 (200TH/s; $97.5/TH/s) 43 S7s and 19 PSUs = $19,500.00
Option 3 (300TH/s; $123.33/TH/s) 8 S9s, 43 S7s and 27 PSUs = $37,000.00
All Options are Already Collocated and sold in place with contract until December 25th, 2016
CONTACT ME FOR INFORMATION
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July 11, 2016, 07:03:05 PM |
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Option 2 (200TH/s; $97.5/TH/s) 43 S7s and 19 PSUs = 6000.00usd
I'd do that.
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Go Big or Go Home.
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July 11, 2016, 07:44:59 PM |
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Option 2 (200TH/s; $97.5/TH/s) 43 S7s and 19 PSUs = 6000.00usd
I'd do that. i don't get the point. You are simply trolling the guy. where do you get these prices? you are willing to pay just $100/S7? Good luck with that. OP is simply trying to make a sale.
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