Is Donald Trump A Racist or a Bigot? Support Your Position With Direct Quotes.

[TECSHARE]

lol don't see why I should do all the hard work, maybe I should employ 200 undocumented Polish immigrants like Trump did.

http://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/2016/02/26/polish-worker-speaks-out-following-trump-rubio-spar.html

Now you demand to not even be on topic... you are going in the wrong direction. Still no quotes there.

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[Spendulus]

That is your opinion though (not that I disagree), but opinions are what I am trying to extract from this discourse so facts can be clearly pointed out and examined.

Okay, here is one I submit for discussion purposes.  I don't know if it is true or a lie (neither do I care.)  But it appears to be sourced.

"There may be somebody with tomatoes in the audience. If you see somebody getting ready to throw a tomato, knock the crap out of them, would you? Seriously. Okay? Just knock the hell -- I promise you, I will pay for the legal fees." –Donald Trump, encouraging violence at his rallies, Cedar Rapids, Iowa, Feb. 1, 2016

http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/Donald-Trump/a/Donald-Trump-Quotes.htm

[TECSHARE]

So the racist/bigoted part of that statement is? All anyone is proving to me here is none of you know how to read.

[TECSHARE]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pr2SLCnJWBw

[Spendulus]

So the racist/bigoted part of that statement is? All anyone is proving to me here is none of you know how to read.

I'm pro trump.  FYI.

But the statement has been latched on by "anti-Trumpers" who claim he "incites riots."

[TECSHARE]

So the racist/bigoted part of that statement is? All anyone is proving to me here is none of you know how to read.

I'm pro trump.  FYI.

But the statement has been latched on by "anti-Trumpers" who claim he "incites riots."

I'm sure you are, but the whole point of this thread was to cut out all the other pointless bickering, opinions, sensationalism, and other bullshit to directly focus on the alleged facts behind his supposed racism. It is frankly depressingly pathetic how little people here are able to comprehend what they read and focus on a single topic. This is of course why I created this thread so that people can't just come in and "yell louder" without having any actual content. Instead they just cry and cry as if I have stolen something from them by "censoring" them in one thread where I DARE to set very basic rules of conduct while the leftist model almost completely consists of rabid screaming and mobbing, dictating to others what they can and can not say, and denying their opposition the ability to even speak. After all if they had to actually engage in a debate they would lose because all of their ideologies are based on emotions, not facts. They inherently know on some subconscious level that it can't withstand careful scrutiny, hence the constant winging about their status of "victim-hood" and shifting between side topics constantly changing the goal posts to stay one step ahead of factual debate. By injecting other topics into this, you just give them more escape routes to avoid debate when they get cornered and are forced to confront their own conflicting ideas and hypocrisy. Not that it matters though because they have all run away to their "safe space" where they can do all these things freely without having to adhere to any focused debate.

[Swordsoffreedom]

He-he its like this article was made for this thread point for the feminists
Also too many pictures so gonna just link it checking sourcing it looks ok but doesn't hurt if someone feels like fact checking.

That's the entire point of this thread. You all want to regurgitate these editorials with sensationalized opinion pieces attached WITHOUT FACT CHECKING. It is more than lazy it is disingenuous. What makes you think you have the right to post shit then demand EVERYONE ELSE fact check. That is NOT HOW DEBATE WORKS.

I'm more pro Trump just felt like satisfying the cause here
Either way it does snippet back to articles problem is you didn't define if it needed to be audio or if points made during an interview were in the clear where no audio existed. Regardless of Full transcript or not, some stuff from the 90's didn't get uploaded to the web.
Can't debate if we don't have a rule set for it.

[TECSHARE]

He-he its like this article was made for this thread point for the feminists
Also too many pictures so gonna just link it checking sourcing it looks ok but doesn't hurt if someone feels like fact checking.

That's the entire point of this thread. You all want to regurgitate these editorials with sensationalized opinion pieces attached WITHOUT FACT CHECKING. It is more than lazy it is disingenuous. What makes you think you have the right to post shit then demand EVERYONE ELSE fact check. That is NOT HOW DEBATE WORKS.

I'm more pro Trump just felt like satisfying the cause here
Either way it does snippet back to articles problem is you didn't define if it needed to be audio or if points made during an interview were in the clear where no audio existed. Regardless of Full transcript or not, some stuff from the 90's didn't get uploaded to the web.
Can't debate if we don't have a rule set for it.

I already stated in the OP that transcripts were acceptable. Did they not have transcripts in the 90's? So far it seems no one on either side of this debate can provide a non-editorial source, a quote, and stay on topic. The rules are very simple and straightforward. IMO the problem is the lack of ability or will of anyone to discipline their focus for more than 60 seconds rather than the rules being unclear. It is much easier to just have a free for all troll fest that lefty loons thrive off of. After all who wants to have a boring factual debate when there are herps and derps to be had?

[TECSHARE]

If you wanted a debate, you wouldn't have deleted people's posts, changed the rules in the OP, then mocked everyone for not following your ex-post-facto rule change

You created this thread... to toot your own horn... so to speak

#Trumpeteer

I created this thread because people like you are too retarded to engage in an actual debate. Run away back back to your safe space now.

EDIT: The rules were always that you use a direct sourced quote, all I added was detail so borderline illiterates such as yourself would know what I meant by those words.

[Spendulus]

If you wanted a debate, you wouldn't have deleted people's posts, changed the rules in the OP, then mocked everyone for not following your ex-post-facto rule change

You created this thread... to toot your own horn... so to speak

#Trumpeteer

I created this thread because people like you are too retarded to engage in an actual debate. Run away back back to your safe space now.

I agree, anyway the name Moloch sounds like a bad guy from the Lord of the Rings.

[TECSHARE]

If you wanted a debate, you wouldn't have deleted people's posts, changed the rules in the OP, then mocked everyone for not following your ex-post-facto rule change

You created this thread... to toot your own horn... so to speak

#Trumpeteer

I created this thread because people like you are too retarded to engage in an actual debate. Run away back back to your safe space now.

I agree, anyway the name Moloch sounds like a bad guy from the Lord of the Rings.

If you notice all he ever does is list excuses of why he doesn't have to engage in debate or acknowledge any points in opposition to his own bias, and then accuse you of doing it when you point it out. It is much like the psychology of a 4 year old when you confront them about the cookies they stole out of the cookie jar. "You ate those cookies didn't you?" "NO YOU!"

[TECSHARE]

If you wanted a debate, you wouldn't have deleted people's posts, changed the rules in the OP, then mocked everyone for not following your ex-post-facto rule change

You created this thread... to toot your own horn... so to speak

#Trumpeteer

I created this thread because people like you are too retarded to engage in an actual debate. Run away back back to your safe space now.

I agree, anyway the name Moloch sounds like a bad guy from the Lord of the Rings.

If you notice all he ever does is list excuses of why he doesn't have to engage in debate or acknowledge any points in opposition to his own bias, and then accuse you of doing it when you point it out. It is much like the psychology of a 4 year old when you confront them about the cookies they stole out of the cookie jar. "You ate those cookies didn't you?" "NO YOU!"

^^ This is trolling

You two should seriously get a room if you want to compare your Troll-penis size

You have never attempted to have a debate

You have never made a single point/claim, much less backed it up with any form of evidence...

What is your game here?

Slander me?  To what end?

Anyone reading this thread (or others) can see you are completely wrong, and acting childish

If you want to be treated like an adult, act like one. Debate me instead of running away like a coward. This thread is about YOU providing evidence to back up YOUR claims, not just some bullshit sensationalized editorial from Huffington Post. Tell me what am I supposed to prove, that Donald Trump is not a racist? My "game" here is proving you, and people like you are incapable of having a legitimate debate which includes REAL sources.

[TECSHARE]

Listen fucktard

It's not a debate when I (along with other forum members) post quotes and sources and you delete them

So this isn't trolling but I am trolling? Interesting how those standards are different for you. Additionally no you didn't, you produced editorial 3rd party "sources" which were taken out of context. I explicitly stated the sources had to be direct and unedited. I am sorry if you are incapable of following simple logical standards that are the basis for any source or debate the world over. If you had completed more than a high school level of education you would know how to do this.

[TECSHARE]

A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave.

You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations.

If you wanted a debate, you wouldn't have deleted people's posts, changed the rules in the OP, then mocked everyone for not following your ex-post-facto rule change

You created this thread... to toot your own horn... so to speak

#Trumpeteer

I created this thread because people like you are too retarded to engage in an actual debate. Run away back back to your safe space now.

I agree, anyway the name Moloch sounds like a bad guy from the Lord of the Rings.

If you notice all he ever does is list excuses of why he doesn't have to engage in debate or acknowledge any points in opposition to his own bias, and then accuse you of doing it when you point it out. It is much like the psychology of a 4 year old when you confront them about the cookies they stole out of the cookie jar. "You ate those cookies didn't you?" "NO YOU!"

^^ This is trolling

You two should seriously get a room if you want to compare your Troll-penis size

You have never attempted to have a debate

You have never made a single point/claim, much less backed it up with any form of evidence...

What is your game here?

Slander me?  To what end?

Anyone reading this thread (or others) can see you are completely wrong, and acting childish

If you want to be treated like an adult, act like one. Debate me instead of running away like a coward. This thread is about YOU providing evidence to back up YOUR claims, not just some bullshit sensationalized editorial from Huffington Post. Tell me what am I supposed to prove, that Donald Trump is not a racist?

Listen fucktard

It's not a debate when I (along with other forum members) post quotes and sources... then you delete them, and talk shit

I'm done with this thread (and you), go troll someone else

You can't even use the quote function let alone provide quotes with a source. Run back to your safe space before you might have to question your ideals. RUN FORREST RUN!

[TECSHARE]

A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave.

You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations.

If you wanted a debate, you wouldn't have deleted people's posts, changed the rules in the OP, then mocked everyone for not following your ex-post-facto rule change

You created this thread... to toot your own horn... so to speak

#Trumpeteer

I created this thread because people like you are too retarded to engage in an actual debate. Run away back back to your safe space now.

I agree, anyway the name Moloch sounds like a bad guy from the Lord of the Rings.

If you notice all he ever does is list excuses of why he doesn't have to engage in debate or acknowledge any points in opposition to his own bias, and then accuse you of doing it when you point it out. It is much like the psychology of a 4 year old when you confront them about the cookies they stole out of the cookie jar. "You ate those cookies didn't you?" "NO YOU!"

^^ This is trolling

You two should seriously get a room if you want to compare your Troll-penis size

You have never attempted to have a debate

You have never made a single point/claim, much less backed it up with any form of evidence...

What is your game here?

Slander me?  To what end?

Anyone reading this thread (or others) can see you are completely wrong, and acting childish

If you want to be treated like an adult, act like one. Debate me instead of running away like a coward. This thread is about YOU providing evidence to back up YOUR claims, not just some bullshit sensationalized editorial from Huffington Post. Tell me what am I supposed to prove, that Donald Trump is not a racist?

Listen fucktard

It's not a debate when I (along with other forum members) post quotes and sources... then you delete them, and talk shit

I'm done with this thread (and you), go troll someone else

Damn... delete my post AND edit what I said... Classy

I thought you were done posting here. You can't even follow your own rules. If you'll notice I have quoted everything you said, so no need to crap up the thread with your bullshit two times.

P.S. I don't need to edit your words to make you look stupid, you do a great job of that on your own.

[Spendulus]

I thought you were done posting here. You can't even follow your own rules. If you'll notice I have quoted everything you said, so no need to crap up the thread with your bullshit two times.

P.S. I don't need to edit your words to make you look stupid, you do a great job of that on your own.

I don't think it's trolling to note that "Molooch" sounds like a bad guy from the Lord of the Rings, if it DOES...

[TECSHARE]

Please don't make it look like my words are Moloch's, he doesn't deserve that much credit.

[Spendulus]

Please don't make it look like my words are Moloch's, he doesn't deserve that much credit.

Okay, okay, and look, this is all like- serious, dude.  It's the eulogy to the fun-eral of that Benie dudester.

[Wilikon]

This moloch is giving a bad name to that ancient, evil, but original baby burning god. Sad.

[Spendulus]

This moloch is giving a bad name to that ancient, evil, but original baby burning god. Sad.

How about that.  So my vague memories of the nature of a Moloch were not wrong.  Maybe I remember it from Paradise Lost.  (which is not a training manual for a better, socialist future...)