Is Donald Trump A Racist or a Bigot? (uncensored)

[Moloch]

Since self-moderated topics are used simply to push a personal opinion, and delete the facts...

I have created this new topic about Donald Trump's racism and bigotry, where your posts will not be deleted



1) “When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/aug/06/donald-trump/trump-mexican-government-they-send-bad-ones-over/

Wallace asked Trump, "What evidence do you have, specific evidence, that the Mexican government is sending criminals across the border?"

Trump cited conversations with "border patrol people" who told him that it was true: "Our leaders are stupid, our politicians are stupid, and the Mexican government is much smarter, much sharper, much more cunning, and they send the bad ones over because they don't want to pay for them, they don't want to take care of them. Why should they, when the stupid leaders of the United States will do it for them?And that’s what’s happening, whether you like it or not."

2a) “If you see somebody getting ready to throw a tomato, knock the crap out of them, would you? Just knock the hell–” "I'll pay for the legal fees"
2b) "I love the old days, you know what they used to do to guys like that when they were in a place like this? They’d be carried out in a stretcher, folks. Oh, it’s true.”

Trump: Knock The Crap Out Of Them, I’ll Pay For Lawsuits
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dBaaK15NDE

Trump on protester: 'I’d like to punch him in the face'
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/donald-trump-punch-protester-219655

Donald Trump justifies use of violence against rally protesters: Supporters should ‘swing back’
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/mar/11/donald-trump-defends-use-of-violence-against-rally/



3) "He lined up to 50 people and they shot 49 of those people and to the 50th person, he said, 'You go back to your people. And you tell them what happened'"  "For 25 years there wasn't a problem. OK. Twenty-five years, there wasn't a problem..."

Donald Trump praises US general who shot Muslims with bullets dipped in pig's blood - but story is false
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/donald-trump-praises-general-who-7407513



4) 'Get him out and confiscate his coat': Trump orders security to kick protester out into the freezing -10° cold
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3391764/Trump-orders-security-confiscate-protester-s-coat.html

[eddie13]

Trump rulez!!

[saddampbuh]

most blacks, mexicans and muslims are useless welfare parasites and trump supporters understand this

[Jordan23]

I don't see anything racist or bigoted. Were you trying to point that out?

[BADecker]

Sure hope so. The world wouldn't exist if there weren't any racists or bigots.   

[Moloch]

most blacks, mexicans and muslims are useless welfare parasites and trump supporters understand this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigotry

In English the word "bigot" refers to a person whose habitual state of mind includes an obstinate, irrational, or unfair intolerance of ideas, opinions, ethnicities, or beliefs that differ from their own, and intolerance of the people who hold them.

[Wilikon]

most blacks, mexicans and muslims are useless welfare parasites and trump supporters understand this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigotry

In English the word "bigot" refers to a person whose habitual state of mind includes an obstinate, irrational, or unfair intolerance of ideas, opinions, ethnicities, or beliefs that differ from their own, and intolerance of the people who hold them.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=search2

Yep. I agree with this definition.

Still no direct quotes yet and people are free to post whatever here, without the fear of having their post deleted...

 

[Moloch]

most blacks, mexicans and muslims are useless welfare parasites and trump supporters understand this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigotry

In English the word "bigot" refers to a person whose habitual state of mind includes an obstinate, irrational, or unfair intolerance of ideas, opinions, ethnicities, or beliefs that differ from their own, and intolerance of the people who hold them.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=search2

Yep. I agree with this definition.

Still no direct quotes yet and people are free to post whatever here, without the fear of having their post deleted...

Trumpeteers must have a unique definition of direct quote...

PS. Your link is broken... can't you even link something properly?  No wonder you never cite sources

[Lituation]

He knows white Americans power, he play for them. I think his actions are legit. You have one vote, use wisely.
Trump and Clinton both bad choices. We'll never see a president like Obama again.

[Wilikon]

He knows white Americans power, he play for them. I think his actions are legit. You have one vote, use wisely.
Trump and Clinton both bad choices. We'll never see a president like Obama again.

Amen! 

[Swordsoffreedom]

He knows white Americans power, he play for them. I think his actions are legit. You have one vote, use wisely.
Trump and Clinton both bad choices. We'll never see a president like Obama again.

Amen! 

You know things are fun when Obama thanks Trump for increasing his approval rating ^^
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2016/03/10/Obama-Trump-Thanks-Making-Me-Look-Good

[saddampbuh]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigotry

In English the word "bigot" refers to a person whose habitual state of mind includes an obstinate, irrational, or unfair intolerance of ideas, opinions, ethnicities, or beliefs that differ from their own, and intolerance of the people who hold them.

the truth can't be irrational

[magnific61]

So many racist bastards are in forum.
This mentality will put world in fire.

[bryant.coleman]

most blacks, mexicans and muslims are useless welfare parasites and trump supporters understand this

Anyone with an IQ of more than 60 would understand this. The main reason for the economic downturn currently affecting the United States is the growing population of parasites. Earlier, the population of this particular group was maintained at 10% to 15%. But with the influx of Mexicans, the share has increased to 30%-35%, and is on way to becoming an absolute majority across the nation.

[sunsilk]

So many racist bastards are in forum.
This mentality will put world in fire.

You are right with that dude. But we cannot stop racism in this world. Maybe trump is their leader.

[magnific61]

So many racist bastards are in forum.
This mentality will put world in fire.

You are right with that dude. But we cannot stop racism in this world. Maybe trump is their leader.

You're also right with that. But unfortunately i am afraid that when he comes he will be a new Hitler

[lasersgopew]

I'll entertain this notion of him being hypothetically racist or bigoted, despite any real evidence that that end, if you'll entertain the following question:

In what way would being a racist or a bigot disqualify him from the presidency, or even betray some underlying mental/ethical incompetence that would lessen his ability to lead?

It's a necessary prerequisite for anyone who attains such status, regardless of their character, that they have a penchant for objective truth. Show me one great American president, and I'll show you a racist. Even the biggest champions of the neo-liberal causes are either avowed racists, such as LBJ -- or are more subtlety racist, as is the case with most modern "liberals". Racism, in its current definition, is an emergent property of anyone sufficiently cognizant of the human condition. To recognize that human races have differences, and that those differences contribute to their relative abilities, is nothing more than to recognize objective truth.

I gather that the point of your posting this thread was to highlight traits you find objectionable in Trump, with the expectation that others would object to them as well, and the ultimate goal of shifting their consensus to be more in line with your own. To that I ask, where is your moral outrage when liberals infantilize and belittle minorities? Is it not the pinnacle of overt racism to treat blacks and Hispanics as inherently less-able, and in need of special governmental assistance? Was it not racist to incentivize the dissolution of black families, through neoliberal welfare programs that mandated the father not be present in the home? Is is racist to promote the systematic abortion of black babies, to such a degree that currently more are being aborted than born? Is it racist to promote the influx of illegal immigrants, with the clear understanding that their labor directly undercuts the earning potential of minority communities in the United States, with the direct causal result being greater poverty, crime and moral decay? Is it not racist to do all these things under the guise of being a savior figure to the mentally deficient lackeys, just to secure their fealty at the ballot box?

There are two basic methods by which humans obtain knowledge, objective truth and consensus. Objective truth has been the bedrock of western civilization since the days of Hermes, and it could be argued that its preeminence in western philosophy, heretofore being held as thoroughly unimpeachable, has directly resulted in nearly every facet and conveyance that modern society relies upon. The ultimate aim of modern liberalism is the destruction of objective truth, in favor of consensus -- for the mere fact that consensus can be controlled and manipulated. Nothing in their ethos is rooted in true fairness or equality, and they have no legitimate heritage with enlightenment ideals -- they only want to consolidate power. Regardless of whatever public face they may wear, the philosophical lineage of the neoliberal politician is that of their communist ideologues. I suggest you give that postulation some serious thought before you lend your proverbial sword to their cause.

I'm admittedly a racist, and a sexist; but I'm also a moralist, and none of those attributes are in conflict with one another. Neither racism or sexism should imply malice -- that's a modern contrivance and a media narrative that has no objective merit, and is used far more often to stifle free thought, than it is to highlight injustice.

Food for thought: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3qkf3bajd4

[gentlemand]

Bigot most certainly. He probably feels just as much contempt for crackers as the rest but he's not going to voice that so he's either an equal opportunity racist or not racist. Hard to decide.

[bryant.coleman]

So many racist bastards are in forum.
This mentality will put world in fire.

You are right with that dude. But we cannot stop racism in this world. Maybe trump is their leader.

Lol... this is amazing. A Turk complaining about racism, and a Filipino supporting him. Do I need to remember the Muslim that his own people exterminated some three million Christians in 1915? Or is extermination of minorities better than "racism"? My advice to the Filipino would be to migrate to Turkey next time, rather than trying for a job in the US or the UK. You will feel no racism there. You will be simply exterminated. ROFLMAO.

[Wilikon]

So many racist bastards are in forum.
This mentality will put world in fire.

You are right with that dude. But we cannot stop racism in this world. Maybe trump is their leader.

Lol... this is amazing. A Turk complaining about racism, and a Filipino supporting him. Do I need to remember the Muslim that his own people exterminated some three million Christians in 1915? Or is extermination of minorities better than "racism"? My advice to the Filipino would be to migrate to Turkey next time, rather than trying for a job in the US or the UK. You will feel no racism there. You will be simply exterminated. ROFLMAO.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide