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July 13, 2016, 02:02:41 AM
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I thought they fixed the double spending problem. You speak about not like its as easy as turning a light switch on when its not. Its very difficult if not impossible to do these days. They increased sexurity on the blockchain because people were having double spend problems as well.
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July 13, 2016, 09:26:37 AM
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Nothing ias wrong with 0 deposit. It helps speed it up to get players playing soon as they can. You can't double spend anymore.
If it is a problem the solution will be easy. Just make no withdraw until deposit is going through. Also if so many transactions fail then flag the account.

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July 13, 2016, 10:46:45 AM
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Nothing ias wrong with 0 deposit. It helps speed it up to get players playing soon as they can. You can't double spend anymore.
If it is a problem the solution will be easy. Just make no withdraw until deposit is going through. Also if so many transactions fail then flag the account.

That solution doesnt work because they arnt double spending if they win. If they win they just let it go through. They only double spend
when they lost it all so basically they dont lose the btc they sent.  I would just make people wait and get the 1 conformation to be safe



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July 13, 2016, 12:26:45 PM
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I think the only way to make sure people can't cheat is to require 1 confirmation on deposits.  It sucks as a player, but if the site has an account for the players it isn't so bad.  You can deposit a larger amount, and you will only have to wait for that first confirmation, but you can play many rolls/hands off of that one deposit.

I used to play a fun Pachinko style game that was obviously took 0 confirmation bets because the ball would drop as soon as you sent the transaction.  The site was really fun, but it hasn't been up in a long time.  I'm sure that cheaters were taking advantage of 0 confirmation bets and just double spending their losing bets.

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December 26, 2016, 09:05:37 PM
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Would love to hear from other gaming websites regarding this issue!
Happy Holidays everyone Smiley
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December 26, 2016, 09:24:10 PM
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In that situation 0 confirmation is just a window for the cheaters to play for free. before reading your this post I was wonder that why the gambling sites are against the 0 confirmation and do not pay the winning of transacted bitcoins with 0 confirmation. For the security of everyone it is beneficial that everyone adopt 1 confirmation policy.
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December 26, 2016, 09:35:24 PM
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Would love to hear from other gaming websites regarding this issue!
Happy Holidays everyone Smiley

Seems like the current state of bitcoin has made most sites abandon their 0 confirmation policy. LuckyBit was the site I thought would keep this for the longest but a while ago they had to move into 1 confirmation policy too atleast temporarily until some kind of a solution was found. I think Satoshibones still accepts these so maybe reaching out to them would be an option.

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December 26, 2016, 11:08:28 PM
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Nothing ias wrong with 0 deposit. It helps speed it up to get players playing soon as they can. You can't double spend anymore.
If it is a problem the solution will be easy. Just make no withdraw until deposit is going through. Also if so many transactions fail then flag the account.
In your case they will need to do a lot of home work so is not it better to just keep 1 confirmation for the deposit to the site and nowadays it do not take much time for the first confirmation to happen. It only take a few seconds and sometimes a minute or two.
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December 26, 2016, 11:45:31 PM
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Nothing ias wrong with 0 deposit. It helps speed it up to get players playing soon as they can. You can't double spend anymore.
If it is a problem the solution will be easy. Just make no withdraw until deposit is going through. Also if so many transactions fail then flag the account.
In your case they will need to do a lot of home work so is not it better to just keep 1 confirmation for the deposit to the site and nowadays it do not take much time for the first confirmation to happen. It only take a few seconds and sometimes a minute or two.

Nowadays, bitcoins confirmations takes a lot of time to confirm not only 2-3 minutes (most of time) ,but 1 confirmation policy is a must for every casino.
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December 28, 2016, 12:52:56 AM
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So someone can use 1ntc and play till they win big ? Has this happened ? How much habe people gotten away with ? Its very interesting but it sounds like people would clean you out so how did you stop that from happening ? Surely the cheater can't use this over and over untill he is happy with his profits ? Or can he Huh ?
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