[Pool] Offset your carbon footprint! Profits buy trees and rainforest

[MyFarm]

Let's make a positive difference! Thank you!  

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[Burt]

Love the idea good luck mate

[Quantumplation]

Wow, such a simple idea, I love it.  If you did block payouts like Eligius, I'd totally switch.

[foggyb]

I am all for planting trees and keeping the planet healthy. But I am opposed to the idea of a carbon footprint. Trees are important for keeping the air clean of pollutants (carbon dioxide is NOT a pollutant, its essential for life).

Carbon dixoide is absorbed by the oceans (over 70% of the earth's surface is ocean) when the earth is cooler (when the sun is not as active). Similarly, carbon dioxide is released by the oceans when the earth gets warmer (when the sun is very active with sunspots and solar flares). This all means that increased carbon dioxide levels FOLLOW global warming. It does NOT cause it.

It really is that simple.

To sum up, trees are free. No one owns them, anyone can go plant a tree on their own, there is no need a for a "carbon footprint fund".

I'd like to thank Al Gore for making this little rant (necessary).

[hugolp]

Thank you very much.  Let's see if we can self regulate like we claim

Bitcoin will autoregulate, just not necesarely the way you like it to autoregulate.

Anyway, good luck with the new pool. Its a good idea.

[Quantumplation]

Wow, such a simple idea, I love it.  If you did block payouts like Eligius, I'd totally switch.

Can you please explain how the block payouts differ and why it's better?  I'd be happy to refer your thoughts to the software developer if it is indeed a superior system.  Thank you.

Here's a block solved by the Eligius pool:

http://blockexplorer.com/block/000000000000026210a972387c00e6db801346b32a815a996d698211d71a197c

The software keeps a virtual tally of your unpaid balance.  Once this crosses 1btc, you're paid out on the next generated block, RIGHT there, in the generation block.  The money never sits in some intermediary account held by the pool-owner.  There's a lot less required trust, because while the pool owner can still shut down the pool before you get your "fair share" (aka virtual balance), HE doesn't get anything out of it.  It's a very subtle and clever system, so I suggest you (or the developer) spend some time thinking about it to understand why it truly works, and I won't use a pool without it.  Obviously, you can incorporate the 3% fees as just taking 3% off the top of the generation block to your own address.  Eligius itself has no fees, but since your fees would be going to an actual cause, I might not mind as much.

[simplecoin]

Very nice rework of the framework! Where's the clap emoticon when I need it?

[MaGNeT]

I am all for planting trees and keeping the planet healthy. But I am opposed to the idea of a carbon footprint. Trees are important for keeping the air clean of pollutants (carbon dioxide is NOT a pollutant, its essential for life).

Carbon dixoide is absorbed by the oceans (over 70% of the earth's surface is ocean) when the earth is cooler (when the sun is not as active). Similarly, carbon dioxide is released by the oceans when the earth gets warmer (when the sun is very active with sunspots and solar flares). This all means that increased carbon dioxide levels FOLLOW global warming. It does NOT cause it.

It really is that simple.

To sum up, trees are free. No one owns them, anyone can go plant a tree on their own, there is no need a for a "carbon footprint fund".

I'd like to thank Al Gore for making this little rant (necessary).

Either way, there's a lot of rainforres to be rescued... Animals live there and they need the space...

[paulie_w]

what an absolutely brilliant idea. i love this!

[jashan]

Awesome! I was actually looking for a pool that I really feel worthy of supporting and this is it. Kudos for creating this!!!

[AnonymousBat]

One issue we're all aware of is that mining uses a LOT of electricity and therefore our carbon footprint rises, sometimes substantially.  Enter EcoCoin.org, a new mining pool where the profit from our 2% fees go towards purchasing trees and rainforest land to offset your carbon footprint.  If you mine with EcoCoin, you can rest easier knowing you're helping save the earth one mined Bitcoin at a time.

No offense, but I don't buy into the propaganda that the world is going to end because we use electricity, and that a throwing a bunch of money at the problem is somehow going to 'fix' it. The entire climate change 'problem' is a scam in order to basically create a new currency called carbon credits, with a new central bank, and the best part? The credits can expire if they're unused!

Newsflash: The climate always changes.

At least you're doing it by choice and not by government force though.

[MyFarm]

Very nice rework of the framework! Where's the clap emoticon when I need it?

Thank you very much.  And thank YOU for making all this possible!

[swusc2]

One issue we're all aware of is that mining uses a LOT of electricity and therefore our carbon footprint rises, sometimes substantially.  Enter EcoCoin.org, a new mining pool where the profit from our 2% fees go towards purchasing trees and rainforest land to offset your carbon footprint.  If you mine with EcoCoin, you can rest easier knowing you're helping save the earth one mined Bitcoin at a time.

No offense, but I don't buy into the propaganda that the world is going to end because we use electricity, and that a throwing a bunch of money at the problem is somehow going to 'fix' it. The entire climate change 'problem' is a scam in order to basically create a new currency called carbon credits, with a new central bank, and the best part? The credits can expire if they're unused!

Newsflash: The climate always changes.

At least you're doing it by choice and not by government force though.

It's up to debate whether climate change is natural or man-made and how much people are doing to upset the balance.

But concrete > trees. You can out bid people for land for ecological preservation and use it as such to plant trees. Climate change may or may not be inevitable/disastrous/nothing at all. But trees don't grow out of concrete and there are definitely less trees, and that man-made.

[AnonymousBat]

It's up to debate whether climate change is natural or man-made and how much people are doing to upset the balance.

But concrete > trees. You can out bid people for land for ecological preservation and use it as such to plant trees. Climate change may or may not be inevitable/disastrous/nothing at all. But trees don't grow out of concrete and there are definitely less trees, and that man-made.

I don't think it's impossible for man to have an impact, but any government 'solution' by force really isn't going to do anything. A free market approach isn't so bad though cause people have choice.

One thing about tress though, trees used in the paper and lumber industry are all farmed. They plant them, wait until they grow to the right size, cut them down, plant new ones.

Don't take it personally I just get antsy whenever I see "save the world  from climate change by doing x!"

[swusc2]

It's up to debate whether climate change is natural or man-made and how much people are doing to upset the balance.

But concrete > trees. You can out bid people for land for ecological preservation and use it as such to plant trees. Climate change may or may not be inevitable/disastrous/nothing at all. But trees don't grow out of concrete and there are definitely less trees, and that man-made.

I don't think it's impossible for man to have an impact, but any government 'solution' by force really isn't going to do anything. A free market approach isn't so bad though cause people have choice.

One thing about tress though, trees used in the paper and lumber industry are all farmed. They plant them, wait until they grow to the right size, cut them down, plant new ones.

Don't take it personally I just get antsy whenever I see "save the world by doing x!"

That might be partially true maybe some developed countries can afford or FARM trees. But the majority of nations can't. I can say for fact China does not FARM trees for its needs and most of South American if not all of Africa.

[Quantumplation]

The software keeps a virtual tally of your unpaid balance.  Once this crosses 1btc, you're paid out on the next generated block, RIGHT there, in the generation block.  The money never sits in some intermediary account held by the pool-owner.  There's a lot less required trust, because while the pool owner can still shut down the pool before you get your "fair share" (aka virtual balance), HE doesn't get anything out of it.  It's a very subtle and clever system, so I suggest you (or the developer) spend some time thinking about it to understand why it truly works, and I won't use a pool without it.  Obviously, you can incorporate the 3% fees as just taking 3% off the top of the generation block to your own address.  Eligius itself has no fees, but since your fees would be going to an actual cause, I might not mind as much.

The developer is interested in incorporating this (see here) but needs a little insight.  Do you think you could answer his questions?  Thank you! 

Sure, have him send me a private message.  I'll answer any questions I can, and any that I can't I'll refer you to someone who can.

[swusc2]

You sir are a genius.

It lets people make money, makes Bitcoin look better, and lets people sleep easier knowing they are doing some good.

More pools like this should go up and associate themselves with a charity. People can pick and choose what pool they go to and what charity to support.

Don't be greedy you people who are thinking about opening up pools. If you are reading this the good publicity can potentially pay for itself.

[swusc2]

Free Bump.

This idea is amazing people join this pool. It's for a good cause and it makes Bitcoin look good.

[GideonGono]

awesome idea, I hope it's as user friendly as deepbit otherwise

[Reikoku]

Can we get some stats on profit and how much is being donated where, what it's doing for the environment etc. Also, can you explain running costs so that we know how much fees are going to have to cover to make 'profits'?

I'm a huge sceptic of anthropogenic global warming theory, but I am an environmentalist (the oldschool type: I like to walk in the countryside, I like clean air etc) and would be happy to support this pool if the numbers are right.

Foggyb, 'anyone can go plant a tree' avoids the objective. The more we cut down rainforests, the harder it's going to be to maintain a healthy earth and keep oxygen production sustainable. You, or me, planting one tree, isn't going to offset the massive amount of deforestation going on right now. I'm not saying don't plant a tree, but it doesn't undo the amount of deforestation done in your name.

TheYogi, don't just try to sell this from a carbon point of view because AGW is a hot debate and a lot of people will avoid the pool and all the good it's doing from a point of view of it being one side or the other of the AGW debate. Deforestation is an issue for all of us, not just AGW-believers.

[morganic]

Sign me up!

[Reikoku]

So you'd need to be genning about 140 btc/month to get fees to pay off the server (2.8 btc = ~$80).

That's about 82GH at my best estimate, seems like a reasonable endeavour. Anything beyond the first 82GH should be donating to charity until the next difficulty increase.

[morganic]

I have signed up and am running some miners, but I am not seeing any change in my dashboard, yet the hashs are all being accepted???

Cheers

Morganic

[morganic]

Nice one!

Well, I have hit the 2000 share, as requested.

[morganic]

In the "Account" settings, there is an option of donation, of which is default at 0%. So, to clarify, this would be addition to the 2% stated on the home page?

[w0mbat]

ive added you to my websites pooled mining list: http://btcxc.info/mining.html

do you support long polling? any chances of getting SSL in the future?

oh, and i just added my humble 180Mh/s to your pool  

[w0mbat]

ok, i know your asleep, but still some advise:

1. get a favicon for your website. makes it look better when bookmarked and when looking at the tab + it is easy to set up.
2. change your sig. dont write "...our fees plant trees..." but instead write "...your fees plant trees...". makes it look more appealing
3. check if long polling is enabled. im getting stales in the two digit area. @deepbit its sub 1%. thats important, no one wants to waste that much of their hashing-power. even for a good cause.

[jagger27]

Wonderful concept. I have my 600MH mining for you now.

[spongehead]

just signed up here and at your site. mining strong for you with ~50GHash private pool

[spongehead]

10.000 done, please pm. meanwhile throttled back to single gpu

[FairUser]

I think your pool speed is off/wrong/lying.

User Id   Hashrate
19           79793

Your saying that you have 1 user is running 79GH/s.  Then it also says that miner has -2 shares:

User Id   Shares
19            -2

Wow, negative shares! That's new.

So when your pool runs @ "83.2 GH/s", the biggest user in the pool is 79GH/s with -2 shares...I don't believe for 1 second that you're really running a 83.2 GH/s.

Nice try though.  Please fix your pool speed indicator. People don't like it when you get this type of thing wrong.

[spongehead]

I think your pool speed is off/wrong/lying.

User Id   Hashrate
19           79793

Your saying that you have 1 user is running 79GH/s.  Then it also says that miner has -2 shares:

the rate was correct and was coming from me. it also showed the correct number of shares in the user interface. the statistics delay could be a bit shorter tho. the hashrate dropped after i switched back to single gpu mining, some minutes between the switch nothing was running.
i think the hashrate and number of shares are updated differently. it was still showing the old hash rate but it didn't count new shares anymore because i detached the grid, so there were no shares anymore.

[foggyb]

TheYogi:

Please don't get me wrong. Buying rainforest land is great, a real step forward. But anytime I see the phrase "carbon footprint" my blood starts to boil.

[warrensgun]

carbon = plant food

but regardless al gore and the other main stream media has gotten everyone to be worried about the co2 coming out of your mouth when you speak.

That being said - saving rainforests - good idea.  if you want another site check out rainforest.org - $50 USD = 1 acre put into trust permanently.

It was the cheapest way I have ever seen.

[WilliamJohnson]

Erm... spongehead, what are you mining with?

There's a user with 135GH/s right now, I guess it's you.
But it shows you have submitted a total of 42 shares only (and it just went down to 41 )

[w0mbat]

i dont know. the stale rate was this high until i hit about 90-100 shares, then it got less. so maybe it was just bad luck i had those 10% stales at the beginning.

[spongehead]

There's a user with 135GH/s right now, I guess it's you.
But it shows you have submitted a total of 42 shares only

as FairUser already said the stats were even showing negative shares!
and since i detached the rig and switched to single gpu, it started counting from zero again. o.O

the hash rate you see seems to be calculated very delayed. in the user interface it says 10minutes delay, however this can't be true.
i switched from the rig back to a single gpu more than an hour ago.

and the current shares you see, are correct ...but only for the single gpu! all the the shares before that came from the rig somehow got turned into a negative share and it started from zero again...

[phillipsjk]

• Based upon the Push Pool and Simplecoin open source mining software - thank you to their developers!
• 50% of our profit purchases trees through Trees For Our Future - a 501(c)3 non profit.
• 50% of our profit purchases rainforest land through the World Land Trust - a 501(c)3 non profit.
• As we begin purchasing trees and land, we will provide receipts and other documentation here and on our site as proof.

I think you should make it more clear in the original post how much of the pool profit goes to running the servers. I realize you plan to "eat" the initial cost.

Somebody asked about donations mentioned in the simple coin interface. Should those be ear-marked for running the servers?

[lemonginger]

Great idea, I was hoping more charity type pools would emerge soon! (and please ppl, do not attack climate change theories in this thread, if you are a climate change denialist just do not join or go start a pool that donates to Rand Foundation or something) As soon as you work out the kinks, I will direct my hashes your way.

[jashan]

Awesome! I was actually looking for a pool that I really feel worthy of supporting and this is it. Kudos for creating this!!!

Wonderful!  If you have any trouble getting setup, let me know

Everything worked fine so far; I'm using DiabloMiner on a Mac. I'm "part-time-mining" with my 2007 Mac Pro with a GeForce 8800 GT. So that just adds a humble 20 MHash/Sec. But I'm in the Top 20 ;-) ... well, just 11 workers currently online, so no surprise.

The stats certainly need a little reformatting (make those two tables more separate by adding some padding between the first and the second one; and make them look "really nice", e.g. by right-aligning the numbers).

You absolutely need to get HTTPS up and running. And Logout didn't work for me (on Safari).

So I'd say there's still a bit of work to be done! ;-)

[rowbot]

I <3 this idea.

I'm having difficulties with the account page, however. It seems I am unable to change account settings (such as payout address) despite using the correct PIN. It just takes me back to the account page without any changes made.

EDIT: Looks like this was because I had nothing entered in the Donation % field. However, when I enter "1" there it gives me an Internal Server Error page, but the changes were made.

EDIT EDIT: Looks like the whole server is down now. I'll be checking this out again in the future when the wrinkles have been ironed out.

[somestranger]

I can't seem to access the site or mine right now, but I finished the 2000 shares requested (I made my account before you edited it) and probably close to 10k.

[c_k]

I was one of the first people to join so got the lower target

I should have hit 2000 right when the site went offline

[swusc2]

I think almost every pool associated with Bitcoin was DDoS in the a past few hours.

[Karmicads]

Very nice rework of the framework! Where's the clap emoticon when I need it?

[jashan]

Hey, good luck fixing it! It's really been down for a while now, so it seems to be a little more serious :-(

[w0mbat]

yes, it been down since yesterday night. not a really great start

[jashan]

Any update on what's going on? The error does look like someone changed something - and then it broke. But there's really not that much to tell from that message. I doubt this is a DDoS-attack - if it was, the server would be unresponsive and it responds immediately. It's unlikely that a DDoSed server would generate error messages (well, you'd probably get a timed out error message from your browser and every once in a while you'd get the site - just like with higher-than-expected traffic which would actually be really good news ;-) ).

Sometimes things go a bit rough - I really hope you get things settled with your developer. The world needs EcoCoin ;-)

[rowbot]

Still waiting to hear what's going on with this pool. Site's still down. Any updates?

[AmpEater]

Still down. Whats up?

[c_k]

Yeah, whats happening here guys?

[jashan]

Is there any way we an help you solve this issue? It's been down for about 4 days now - that's really too long :-(

I think EcoCoin is the most interesting pool today and actually recommended it to a couple of friends ... but 4 days downtime might kill the project. So, if there's any way we can help you, let us know ...

[LeFBI]

any signs of life?

[smoothie]

Sounds like ecocoind died? No update posts for weeks?

[FinShaggy]

This is pretty awesome, does it still exist?

[HellDiverUK]

Sounds like ecocoind died? No update posts for weeks?

2 years later...

This is pretty awesome, does it still exist?