Bitcoin Forum
November 10, 2024, 05:49:45 PM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 28.0 [Torrent]
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Pages: [1] 2 3 »  All
  Print  
Author Topic: Some dummy necro-bumped this. Please ignore.  (Read 5223 times)
DannyHamilton (OP)
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3486
Merit: 4832



View Profile
February 13, 2013, 04:31:23 AM
Last edit: February 28, 2014, 07:53:18 PM by DannyHamilton
 #1

EDIT: This thread was necro-bumped 13 months later on Feb. 28, 2014.  This is long since resolved and does not apply to any current bitcoin exchange issues.  I'm locking this topic now to prevent further bumps that might lead to confusion among those that don't pay attention to the dates on threads that they are reading.

According to willnye here:

. . . My transaction (http://blockchain.info/tx-index/52509782/9eb202978e1653a0d3b1c936c2a07228055ce434c6c065c727336cfc0a74d115) has been unconfirmed for like 8 hours now and I think I traced the backup to the OPs transaction by using bitcoincharts. I guess there is no recourse right? I just hope I didn't just lose 13btc because of random chance . . .
This was a payment from coinbase to my wallet. I didn't do anything wrong (I don't think)

coinbase.com used this unconfirmed 13 BTC output from this transaction:
http://blockchain.info/tx-index/52509763/0

As an input into this transaction:
http://blockchain.info/tx-index/52509782/9eb202978e1653a0d3b1c936c2a07228055ce434c6c065c727336cfc0a74d115

I certainly wouldn't be comfortable knowing that the currency exchange that I'm using is disbursing funds on unconfirmed outputs, and using them as inputs.  Way to much risk of a double spend, or a screwed up transaction that never confirms.  I won't be recommending coinbase.com to anyone unless/until they make good on this transaction, and I'd suggest that anyone who currently uses coinbase.com contact them and let them know that you are not happy with this practice.[/size]
weex
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1102
Merit: 1014



View Profile
February 13, 2013, 04:50:49 AM
 #2

It looks like you have a chain of a couple unconfirmed transactions there. I'd say that's pretty special and not a good thing.

If you trace back each of your inputs you come to this transaction that is unconfirmed due to a 0.0005 from CoinAd.

http://blockchain.info/tx/89bd0a78f990a9956d07d20742eecb72334e2ec09b0f004f347c1bec2da8e666
Rothgar
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 374
Merit: 250


Tune in to Neocash Radio


View Profile WWW
February 13, 2013, 05:21:53 AM
 #3

Woah!! 23kb transaction with only a .0005 fee.  No wonder it hasn't confirmed.  The days of cheap transactions like this are numbered. 

http://blockchain.info/tx/88eb395b48a6d3875d8d55a6efd34afd2e1d4e397b43f9f790479914fba0c74b

Visit http://neocashradio.com for the premier weekly bitcoin podcast.
Follow neocashradio on twitter.  https://twitter.com/NeocashRadio
DannyHamilton (OP)
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3486
Merit: 4832



View Profile
February 13, 2013, 05:25:33 AM
 #4

It looks like you have a chain of a couple unconfirmed transactions there. I'd say that's pretty special and not a good thing.
Woah!! 23kb transaction with only a .0005 fee.  No wonder it hasn't confirmed . . .
I agree. coinbase.com should not be accepting transactions like this, and definitely should not be using the output from a transaction like this as the input to a transaction where they are sending someone funds after taking money from their bank account. coinbase.com should not be recommended until/unless they resolve this issue.
willnye
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 14
Merit: 0


View Profile
February 13, 2013, 05:27:30 AM
 #5

I will update if anything happens, as well as let you know anything that Coinbase gets back to me with. I'm not an expert with this bitcoin stuff, but there are not any alternative explanations, right?
DannyHamilton (OP)
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3486
Merit: 4832



View Profile
February 13, 2013, 05:41:38 AM
 #6

I will update if anything happens, as well as let you know anything that Coinbase gets back to me with. I'm not an expert with this bitcoin stuff, but there are not any alternative explanations, right?
willnye,

You can confirm that the following transaction is from coinbase to your wallet, correct?
http://blockchain.info/tx-index/52509782/9eb202978e1653a0d3b1c936c2a07228055ce434c6c065c727336cfc0a74d115

If so, then it doesn't really matter to me why the following output is unconfirmed:
http://blockchain.info/tx-index/52509763/0

The fact that it is unconfirmed means that coinbase should not be using it for customers who are trying to acquire bitcoin. There is simply too much risk of the transaction either never confirming, or ending up part of a double spend.  If coinbase wants to take the risk of paying out cash without waiting for confirmations, that's up to them, but they should not be forcing that risk onto their customers.

The person who created that original transaction could re-use the outputs from their transaction and include a nice fee so that a miner confirms it and suddenly the current chain of transactions from those outputs ceases to exist.  coinbase isn't out anything, because they already forced the risk onto you.  You however are suddenly without your bitcoins. It could happen today, next week, or in a few months.
payb.tc
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 812
Merit: 1000



View Profile
February 13, 2013, 05:43:17 AM
 #7

I will update if anything happens, as well as let you know anything that Coinbase gets back to me with. I'm not an expert with this bitcoin stuff, but there are not any alternative explanations, right?

in any case, don't give up on the 13 BTC, and keep your wallet backups safe

it's possible that a miner could be offered additional financial incentive after the fact, to include an old unconfirmed TX in its next block

in this scenario, coinad should probably be the one to offer the incentive, although stakeholders such as yourself might also volunteer some payment in order to get it processed

(or coinbase, if they value their reputation)
DannyHamilton (OP)
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3486
Merit: 4832



View Profile
February 13, 2013, 05:47:54 AM
 #8

(or coinbase, if they value their reputation)
This.  Very much so.
Peter Todd
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1120
Merit: 1160


View Profile
February 13, 2013, 07:35:10 AM
 #9

FWIW one way this may have happened is if they accepted one (or possibly two) confirmations as sufficient to re-use the txout to make another transaction, and then the block that confirmed the tx was orphaned and that tx was not picked up by another miner. The reference Bitcoin client works this way.

Not quite as negligent, but they still should really be waiting at least two confirmations, preferably 3 or more, given they are handling other peoples' money.

FreeMoney
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1246
Merit: 1016


Strength in numbers


View Profile WWW
February 13, 2013, 08:00:39 AM
 #10

I'm nearly certain coinbase will pay if you pester them. This or something similar has happened twice to Seals players and it has been fixed by coinbase sending new funds.

Play Bitcoin Poker at sealswithclubs.eu. We're active and open to everyone.
brian_armstrong
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 29
Merit: 0


View Profile
February 13, 2013, 08:00:49 AM
 #11

Hi everyone.  Sorry for the trouble on that.

This tx did cause us some issues.  https://coinbase.com/network/transactions/88eb395b48a6d3875d8d55a6efd34afd2e1d4e397b43f9f790479914fba0c74b  and should not have been used as an input - that was our error.

We are pushing out a fix for this now so transactions like this should not be used in the future.  Luke-Jr was kind enough to starting mining it for us (we sent him a bounty).  Hopefully it should be cleared up soon.  Apologies again for the trouble and thank you for bearing with us.
DannyHamilton (OP)
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3486
Merit: 4832



View Profile
February 13, 2013, 08:14:03 AM
 #12

Hi everyone.  Sorry for the trouble on that.

This tx did cause us some issues.  https://coinbase.com/network/transactions/88eb395b48a6d3875d8d55a6efd34afd2e1d4e397b43f9f790479914fba0c74b  and should not have been used as an input - that was our error.

We are pushing out a fix for this now so transactions like this should not be used in the future.  Luke-Jr was kind enough to starting mining it for us (we sent him a bounty).  Hopefully it should be cleared up soon.  Apologies again for the trouble and thank you for bearing with us.
Thanks for the update.  Glad to hear you are fixing the software.
jerfelix
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 266
Merit: 250


View Profile
February 13, 2013, 10:21:35 AM
 #13

I have no affiliation with Coinbase, but I think it's worth pointing out that they have been extremely responsive to people's feedback, and are providing a very valuable service (allowing people in the US to get into Bitcoin with minimal fuss at a reasonable fee level).  

So panic messages, like "Don't use this service until this gets fixed" are a bit extreme at this point.  Time and time again, Coinbase has stepped forward to address issues, at cost to them.

My reaction to this alarmist post was "meh, they'll get it fixed.  I just won't pull coins out for a few days."  
ingrownpocket
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 952
Merit: 1000


View Profile
February 13, 2013, 11:53:53 AM
 #14

I will update if anything happens, as well as let you know anything that Coinbase gets back to me with. I'm not an expert with this bitcoin stuff, but there are not any alternative explanations, right?

in any case, don't give up on the 13 BTC, and keep your wallet backups safe

it's possible that a miner could be offered additional financial incentive after the fact, to include an old unconfirmed TX in its next block

in this scenario, coinad should probably be the one to offer the incentive, although stakeholders such as yourself might also volunteer some payment in order to get it processed

(or coinbase, if they value their reputation)

How? The only address I control is the change address.
payb.tc
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 812
Merit: 1000



View Profile
February 13, 2013, 12:41:06 PM
 #15

I will update if anything happens, as well as let you know anything that Coinbase gets back to me with. I'm not an expert with this bitcoin stuff, but there are not any alternative explanations, right?

in any case, don't give up on the 13 BTC, and keep your wallet backups safe

it's possible that a miner could be offered additional financial incentive after the fact, to include an old unconfirmed TX in its next block

in this scenario, coinad should probably be the one to offer the incentive, although stakeholders such as yourself might also volunteer some payment in order to get it processed

(or coinbase, if they value their reputation)

How? The only address I control is the change address.

doesn't matter what you control

i don't control any of it, but i could still offer Mining Pool XYZ a reward for including that rogue transaction in their next block for me

the tx was initially created by coinad, with an insufficient fee. so i was suggesting that coinad be the ones to offer additional financial incentive to mining pools to get it over the line... financial incentive that probably should have been included in the tx in the first place.
ingrownpocket
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 952
Merit: 1000


View Profile
February 13, 2013, 01:00:05 PM
 #16

I will update if anything happens, as well as let you know anything that Coinbase gets back to me with. I'm not an expert with this bitcoin stuff, but there are not any alternative explanations, right?

in any case, don't give up on the 13 BTC, and keep your wallet backups safe

it's possible that a miner could be offered additional financial incentive after the fact, to include an old unconfirmed TX in its next block

in this scenario, coinad should probably be the one to offer the incentive, although stakeholders such as yourself might also volunteer some payment in order to get it processed

(or coinbase, if they value their reputation)

How? The only address I control is the change address.

doesn't matter what you control

i don't control any of it, but i could still offer Mining Pool XYZ a reward for including that rogue transaction in their next block for me

the tx was initially created by coinad, with an insufficient fee. so i was suggesting that coinad be the ones to offer additional financial incentive to mining pools to get it over the line... financial incentive that probably should have been included in the tx in the first place.

I run CoinAd.
How should I proceed?

EDIT: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=143266
DannyHamilton (OP)
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3486
Merit: 4832



View Profile
February 13, 2013, 02:47:43 PM
Last edit: February 13, 2013, 03:07:01 PM by DannyHamilton
 #17

Wow! It surprises me how many people are willing to accept a long chain of unconfirmed transactions. Also, there are some decent fees there for a forward looking miner to pick up.  If this happens occasionally, I'd think there'd be some incentive for someone to code one.

I got bored and tried to trace them all down, but this is as far as I got before something else came up that I needed to do:

Given this transaction:

http://blockchain.info/tx/88eb395b48a6d3875d8d55a6efd34afd2e1d4e397b43f9f790479914fba0c74b
(fee 0.0005BTC) (23,857 bytes)


All these later transactions are unconfirmed and waiting on it
(* indicates transactions that were traced through all subsequent transactions at the time I looked at it):

http://blockchain.info/tx/0c2a111573f78ab9e48c4c70d63e80fca8daaeaeedcd2db5dd77a49e16767b82 (fee 0.0005 BTC) (473 bytes)
http://blockchain.info/tx/13d719953efdad24e601766abf2523ef87f29a2a6d3e2a92daf3df9d42c0852c (fee 0.0005 BTC) (607 bytes)
http://blockchain.info/tx/19e2170d1ace3d19001626c655d23166f64eae37aa9308ecab59e5f8dab949c6 (fee 0.001 BTC) (1,373 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/1bd4a0451ab0ac24b9fe80d7da17cc8bcacbc32c1ed33503fe61f6c4e85d435b (fee 0.0005 BTC) (438 bytes)
http://blockchain.info/tx/1fef207bddd1d98a6c145418c85cf335066c9f613ee12c45c1afdd480d58bf5f (fee 0.0005 BTC) (437 bytes)
http://blockchain.info/tx/2050cb1cddf6a52a783b20a784ff773f55d33829a12369c34e50975a6536fc73 (fee 0.0005 BTC) (439 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/2df7b911922ed0be567d57831696ca670d1ac1a07c8da7a64b1b9d09a7f99c1b (fee 0.0005 BTC) (609 bytes)
http://blockchain.info/tx/33d30b1a1f852e5eae29e6299566c5d552f40f2a90f2337218981fc497d920ea (fee 0.0005 BTC) (473 bytes)
http://blockchain.info/tx/38b67f3efab2e6e3f9526c40d9381de1f006eb37f226d1b435041cdcfbbd0a55 (fee 0.0005 BTC) (437 bytes)
http://blockchain.info/tx/3b5ae97baebb5385fac2c275066e8c07c4316766c281fac2777db7045f7ebf02 (fee 0.0005 BTC) (471 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/44eb1fb6f8a7e131655e50164556d4ad54be981a69ca320832f21421323d93f5 (fee 0.0005 BTC) (438 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/4db42eb77dcbdaacfb9c1462d7dfadd7e85a3bdac1d59024de170fb45be395a2 (fee 0.0005 BTC) (608 bytes)
http://blockchain.info/tx/559f0da862382cc0e6f3810b137ff9bb76d7d44efab04b9106e49c49c1e4f0b8 (fee 0.0005 BTC) (574 bytes)
http://blockchain.info/tx/57787fec1a969d8635c9179844dd703522ee92aae673e67d0b46737205274d73 (fee 0.0005 BTC) (438 bytes)
http://blockchain.info/tx/5a375b87b3cdbf546c6889c98c937addbdfe7c1b0a9a635d63e9576fe0633a9b (fee 0.0005 BTC) (787 bytes)
http://blockchain.info/tx/5e35b78e0deedbb3480aab7a8b87a4d6bd36a8acfd372240127ed7e49eb5ab6d (fee 0.0005 BTC) (831 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/60623b926af1551021b439ea7e93cc67a9a20bada881711daa46d13258d41d59 (fee 0.0005 BTC) (439 bytes)
http://blockchain.info/tx/6906327a202ddaaa60dbf9d179de32866c750cc24d7d8fc3a3c5ffd909b87efe (fee 0.0005 BTC) (473 bytes)
http://blockchain.info/tx/6ac5057bd3d050b7f2cff394de16962c48d2fd52d03fc6a427403c1ac159c476 (fee 0.0005 BTC) (472 bytes)
http://blockchain.info/tx/6f8ab2f2be000577ad48f6bbda9a39297f8b0e13012c18bf8096ff4751c3bdaa (fee 0.0005 BTC) (437 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/7029a7c0e762c6dbff49e1f7dd2e7e02ef30729ef6fea7ec47f19c05c34c863d (fee 0.0005 BTC) (438 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/88e3553e5040495162022c40ebebde9fe83270883904c8744551a58da7af3d72 (fee 0.001 BTC) (1,191 bytes)
http://blockchain.info/tx/898a2ef6c816245897c52df475a95900d015b920c161caa2ba045aa780f655a2 (fee 0.0005 BTC) (472 bytes)
http://blockchain.info/tx/89bd0a78f990a9956d07d20742eecb72334e2ec09b0f004f347c1bec2da8e666 (fee 0.001 BTC) (1,160 bytes)
http://blockchain.info/tx/8eaf8d151f202b9eead32262249b22f652e181189dba581840067cb2e093f8fe (fee 0.0005 BTC) (437 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/9e21717fc2f3fcc77e7c1b21ba5da340c3cda1a4a9ef63a21f69fc19005855a9 (fee 0.0005 BTC) (473 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/a20598edf936a8e78b52e89df96a5676be2167686d6404a06b7b7200532806d0 (fee 0.0015 BTC) (2,091 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/acc9d9a62e7c1f4f3ea5fdbcec52d31de9e1a300cb6f2b0fe144826dde4bfef6 (fee 0.00035 BTC) (1,339 bytes)
http://blockchain.info/tx/a752638db79143ab3cc23280125601193ee3e8b8fb272a52a6d6cffb82e2dc0e (fee 0.0005 BTC) (437 bytes)
http://blockchain.info/tx/b3f6d16d634e89197ec8bdd3b32ba7544c6e7c38e2997353f9e479d0511ebf46 (fee 0.0005 BTC) (832 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/b758cd3b44e5c4243dc704fe0797a119ddf92a0c667110c5745375a53ad5132d (fee 0.001 BTC) (1,370 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/c4beeb5f1b92d453fb732f2cee6eecc17e452b686ec56ab955fc3935c29f26b9 (fee 0.0005 BTC) (653 bytes)
http://blockchain.info/tx/c7f7bdf7f350fc3e6cc62f9c26c1e4cf365e073a0c78814b55e47fac853d1dc1 (fee 0.0005 BTC) (833 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/ca3f06e907ba0073b0e2b5e661a79ed0960d889fdee61448101c2fdd2caad5c9 (fee 0.006 BTC) (11,450 bytes)
http://blockchain.info/tx/caf2181ea79c59dcff97606dcddd12325a8c5ee0261b9a6fc7e914192804dad7 (fee 0.0005 BTC) (654 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/da2ae698aea73ff2e956498bfe7274526a4c9ef18120b0c8e2e38d3349dd6e6d (fee 0.0005 BTC) (439 bytes)
http://blockchain.info/tx/e030148836a74678f9b12632685583e328fb2495ce6ae675108fbab3605aba6f (fee 0.0005 BTC) (832 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/e16cd137810c54faa65223da66b6eaf79db874d6c213b0b3cc4116f0ce7b100f (fee 0.0005 BTC) (470 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/e4c53c126b6c6e9a49688290f03e9144ef531ccfe8b6693b473d50ef917757bf (fee 0.0005 BTC) (473 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/ef2df772f53531568ee76bf8c3f46466069a279ee2618d372bd3ce347ba5221d (fee 0.0005 BTC) (438 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/f015eaf048505df8ef5fb8226829ee7c306e01ffd65de9d55cd07988b3647cf9 (fee 0.0005 BTC) (438 bytes)
http://blockchain.info/tx/f45f5c0b50f5c015a5a418077dd5cd3a487c895195a0431ce45565bb1a7ab3cd (fee 0.0005 BTC) (439 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/f5ade851b4c0869d68c91cea1c9adde45f31645e78af5c2378faf16803d464df (fee 0.0005 BTC) (472 bytes)
http://blockchain.info/tx/fc187dc186668b5493772c92bfe7710d5d5a7cda5f7802673e92a4291d817f7b (fee 0.0005 BTC) (436 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/288977a549e42d43758a359a3ad50a92817487ce8388ec1a3e04bf3375bfcb08 (fee 0.0005 BTC) (437 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/2e1210bd9b9987f4b47221d136bdd650c717c1487aaaaf9dc5fa3941d87487d3 (fee 0.006 BTC) (11,085 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/808d4f5bd0a35335eb8a6070f6cef3e48c21a093827c3b7bbeb76d41c8ba83f8 (fee 0.0015 BTC) (2,450 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/393008fe08860de9cd3ca0b81bb69d1623b44d7989d8f86634a0ab57ce1a696e (fee 0.001 BTC) (1,506 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/d6309fd1801a20db68ac574d662292c2c50dd98075a615db4b0b14dbfd3f94b9 (fee 0.0005 BTC) (440 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/02bf8f3084a9f98e2aff71857b0e78b391402228104549fc371e40f34da7cb22 (fee 0.001 BTC) (1,911 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/5fae48d4f2f3609497d7e29b742704be340f1fbff754d77131483e69aac60194 (fee 0.0005 BTC) (439 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/d2755f2c239c0825113ccce8bad821d6453cf19a225d919830668bad6710808d (fee 0.0005 BTC) (471 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/06129cfa1e61cec147478377d137eafd55d548f914ce07a251da5d9590c52ca2 (fee 0.0005 BTC) 1,013 bytes)
http://blockchain.info/tx/6bdf4e13f66ac816c63e8bc74910cc3d7fbd101ff344066971d87c988b5c9cb7 (fee 0.0005 BTC) (1,013 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/e029317cb3fb3b6f278f685b88a4d6033af510bdbb1079d5087e6f9d869b56d2 (fee 0.0005 BTC) (436 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/2fcd1ce6eba25a7fa6c9bd84f2316afb549c8a9fc7dd7f48a72cbb9b9c309808 (fee 0.001 BTC) (1,148 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/e9410e0742e74dd64e88b8800dc6bd00c5e293adcd71ec6703364e04b0859f50 (fee 0.0015 BTC) (2,045 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/b758cd3b44e5c4243dc704fe0797a119ddf92a0c667110c5745375a53ad5132d (fee 0.001 BTC) (1,370 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/19e2170d1ace3d19001626c655d23166f64eae37aa9308ecab59e5f8dab949c6 (fee 0.001 BTC) (1,373 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/19e2170d1ace3d19001626c655d23166f64eae37aa9308ecab59e5f8dab949c6 (fee 0.001 BTC) (1,373 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/c76dc5c4108826d29d85bb40fa905af6528806ce076b121fd424188b21bff04e (fee 0.0005 BTC) (439 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/f03cae933d31831d59cff7f04f1a18a734892d9b2d741b60ebda5f1af33e2991 (fee 0.0005 BTC) (437 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/db229483ff441cca0aa97519289bc7e047f3409dfe105de0d9d44dd0247d0c08 (fee 0.0005 BTC) (471 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/189faa1f9372fe84590a14bd8fc61a551f627c9cf3c4ac728b30d9336d376aff (fee 0.0005 BTC) (438 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/02bf8f3084a9f98e2aff71857b0e78b391402228104549fc371e40f34da7cb22 (fee 0.001 BTC) (1,911 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/5fae48d4f2f3609497d7e29b742704be340f1fbff754d77131483e69aac60194 (fee 0.0005 BTC) (439 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/60623b926af1551021b439ea7e93cc67a9a20bada881711daa46d13258d41d59 (fee 0.0005 BTC) (439 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/2e1210bd9b9987f4b47221d136bdd650c717c1487aaaaf9dc5fa3941d87487d3 (fee 0.006 BTC) (11,085 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/33754e3a5577c509534b0682e0196845a0c9c87c2807d76327026be947fbb052 (fee 0.0005 BTC) (437 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/2e1210bd9b9987f4b47221d136bdd650c717c1487aaaaf9dc5fa3941d87487d3 (fee 0.006 BTC) (11,085 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/2e1210bd9b9987f4b47221d136bdd650c717c1487aaaaf9dc5fa3941d87487d3 (fee 0.006 BTC) (11,085 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/f3f6adc82ffe4e868d1182eac3169d7aae77535ca5db7d35656a110cb4fd6577 (fee 0.0005 BTC) (438 bytes)
http://blockchain.info/tx/2e1210bd9b9987f4b47221d136bdd650c717c1487aaaaf9dc5fa3941d87487d3 (fee 0.006 BTC) (11,085 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/3b817157e744dafa0171cfdfed0f8c87c159e4feadd2c80e7d576c0329a8ddad (fee 0.0005 BTC) (439 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/b4a3c9d4fd03941975442bdd17168ed94628e72475eea88d5fb16dbb6c9c0f82 (fee 0.0005 BTC) (652 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/840d68cf19ae97fe0fc0d891f64f263be9d17b0610fd9cd5b455a6a6b8c57c1d (fee 0.0005 BTC) (438 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/02bf8f3084a9f98e2aff71857b0e78b391402228104549fc371e40f34da7cb22 (fee 0.001 BTC) (1,911 byes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/5fae48d4f2f3609497d7e29b742704be340f1fbff754d77131483e69aac60194 (fee 0.0005 BTC) (439 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/c01e9ba5f8b6c7056d90263fa2dfab938c939b83222efe54ad7f24be2a5c20d4 (fee 0.0005 BTC) (1,010 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/63652bb1a3491cfb63de662e61e17d36e50aa0974c9c7cb6d9a30333f1ee9f86 (fee 0.0005 BTC) (438 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/f35a2227e20ab88a4f847b0c71c687bc55513c12571e217e6903317735c58abd (fee 0.0005 BTC) (1,663 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/05da0cf6747c442b0aefb9387e06d107fdb2d8628d763f15686894dc37388174 (fee 0.002 BTC) (4,754 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/20c2fcada3b41ec1d69d47eae4518d44775000148e5969b06ee4e6444fe7f60a (fee 0.0005 BTC) (1,121 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/79ca88dbb70972a10d159ff4df047cd06e58abb214b8d73f143516af8dc8ee07 (fee 0.0 BTC) (3,106 bytes)
http://blockchain.info/tx/7bb4f913b5d44e0da658218bb4f63cb916a622a58324d0568a13028abc752f64 (fee 0.0005 BTC) (258 bytes)
http://blockchain.info/tx/7971fa017120b3935bf271006c5b0d20e6dfc9f5de2e3bd64d3ab048d9dc4cbc (fee 0.001 BTC) (1,700 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/4c5606a4cfdc7337589774bec9f3b76cc4119afe4df779b638c4e544f1602f5b (fee 0.0 BTC) (10,812 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/9721a81c48f6bd2b6df3b9fefcbaafc43bd812e9d0f79992adcf933280fec75f (fee 0.0055 BTC) (15,912 bytes)*
Jouke
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 426
Merit: 250



View Profile WWW
February 13, 2013, 02:50:27 PM
 #18


Double spend it ofcourse!

(p.s. not serious, don't do that, that is bad. But it would people teach a lesson on accepting 0-confirmation-transactions..)

Koop en verkoop snel en veilig bitcoins via iDeal op Bitonic.nl
ingrownpocket
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 952
Merit: 1000


View Profile
February 13, 2013, 02:55:10 PM
 #19

Wow! It surprises me how many people are willing to accept a long chain of unconfirmed transactions. Also, there are some decent fees there for a forward looking miner to pick up.  If this happens occasionally, I'd think there'd be some incentive for someone to code one.

I got bored and tried to trace them all down, but this is as far as I got before something else came up that I needed to do:

Given this transaction:

http://blockchain.info/tx/88eb395b48a6d3875d8d55a6efd34afd2e1d4e397b43f9f790479914fba0c74b
(fee 0.0005BTC) (23,857 bytes)


All these later transactions are unconfirmed and waiting on it:

http://blockchain.info/tx/0c2a111573f78ab9e48c4c70d63e80fca8daaeaeedcd2db5dd77a49e16767b82 (fee 0.0005 BTC) (473 bytes)
http://blockchain.info/tx/13d719953efdad24e601766abf2523ef87f29a2a6d3e2a92daf3df9d42c0852c (fee 0.0005 BTC) (607 bytes)
http://blockchain.info/tx/19e2170d1ace3d19001626c655d23166f64eae37aa9308ecab59e5f8dab949c6 (fee 0.001 BTC) (1,373 bytes)*
http://blockchain.info/tx/1bd4a0451ab0ac24b9fe80d7da17cc8bcacbc32c1ed33503fe61f6c4e85d435b (fee 0.0005 BTC) (438 bytes)
http://blockchain.info/tx/1fef207bddd1d98a6c145418c85cf335066c9f613ee12c45c1afdd480d58bf5f (fee 0.0005 BTC) (437 bytes)
http://blockchain.info/tx/2050cb1cddf6a52a783b20a784ff773f55d33829a12369c34e50975a6536fc73 (fee 0.0005 BTC) (439 bytes)*
(snip)
What does the * means?
payb.tc
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 812
Merit: 1000



View Profile
February 13, 2013, 03:00:05 PM
 #20

I run CoinAd.
How should I proceed?

EDIT: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=143266

from the other thread:

You could directly ask some large pool operator to please include it. Maybe for a small donation to the pool.

that's essentially what i was suggesting
Pages: [1] 2 3 »  All
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!