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no replies   I think this pig has now oinked its last oink. My investment was very small compared to yours, unfortunately it don't look good for any investors. |
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no replies I think this pig has now oinked its last oink. My investment was very small compared to yours, unfortunately it don't look good for any investors. So am I right to conclude that this is a Ponzi scheme? Is it a right time for me to make a police report?  |
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Pig Farm Investment
INTROHi, maybe I'm not good at stringing a sweet words for marketing, but I'll explain as easy as possible to understand.  I have a pigsty unused, the number of 21 blocks. Each block size 2m x 3m to accommodate one breeding pigs or 20 piglets. Pigsty is my own and unused since 2 years ago. 2 years ago the price of pig feed is very expensive and does not cover the cost of maintenance. So at that point I decided to close the pigsty.This time the situation was better, so I decided to re-open the pigsty. Who am I ? I'm Alit, i live in Indonesia. My last education is Bachelor in Agriculture. I experienced for more than 10 years as a breeder pigs.
The pigsty is my own, the land also my own, this pigsty located approximately 30 meters from my house.
Why I'm looking for Investors ?To be honest, I do not have enough money for capital venture. I had to borrow money of $ 700, and only enough to buy one breeding pigs, 10 piglets and for backup pig food. I need a big capital to fill the 21 block and maintenance cost. How much do i need ?I've calculated how much exactly do i need to run this pig farm 100 % The total i need is 26 BTC and when reached, i will stop receiving invesment to avoid ponzi scheme. The detail here : Budget Plan https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cpD60shwRd-yNllkXg5OLL3DJCZQA8GtT4y5cLpqEYs/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=164451329Revenue Plan https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iS2HIzmyjdiDjxheIZgDg3p6R4U5UrtbX6RexI-uXGc/edit?pref=2&pli=1What I offer If you are interested investing in real businesses with crypto, I invite you to join. Here is the details : I offer an interest of 5 % monthlyMinimum investment is 0.01 BTC and no maximum investment. Investment period is 12 months No Compounding, please read at the end of this post. Every month, you will only receive interest payments, the principal will be paid at maturity and can not be withdrawn before maturityFor reference, this time, the purchase price of one piglet around 0.07 BTC - 0.08 BTC and sow price around 0.45 BTC - 0.55 BTC Whether I'm SCAM you ?Nope, I'm just trying to build my pig farms, of course all there is a risk. I can't guarantee this will work 100 %. I can guarantee this will 99 % work based on my experience raising pigs. And the 1 % is lucky Whoaaa, you got red negative trust Yeahh, i got it from Vod, and that's an honor to me. He's doing his job to warns us together so remain cautious.
That's will motivate me to work in real life and keep the trust from investors. Your interest rate too lowWell, 5 % monthly in real life is a medium, but in crypto maybe too low or medium to me. If i set more than 5 % monthly, that the same meaning i kills the business slowly. And we both will loss. This is a long term investment, not an instant rich scheme. Please think carefully before investing.If you are interested, you can send your BTC to this address : 1EW4L38SWhLeBX5zPpWNpTJHYgU33eJWZ8and please send me a PM or reply to this thread. Investors will be listed on the page 2 of this thread How do you handle Bitcoin price fluctuation ?We will value your bitcoin in USD, based on the price when you make an investment. For example : If you invest 1 BTC and the price is $ 400 So your principal will be $ 400 and your monthly interest will be $ 20 I'll pay interest every month using bitcoin equivalent of $ 20 and principal when maturity using bitcoin equivalent of $ 400 ,bitcoin price at that time. No matter what the price of bitcoin then. How i will pay you ?Because I have to pay monthly, while breeding pigs need 155 days in one cycle, so I'll use half of the investment to buy and sell piglets. I will buy piglets from local farmers and sell to bigger piglets collectors. I act as a middleman. This will give a profit to pay your interest, untill sows began to produce. Whether I am anonymous ?Nope, Investors who invest their money to me, have a right to know about me. If you like and have a time, you can come to visit me My Twitter account : https://twitter.com/AlitFX Youtube Video Additional Information
12 months investment period is for stability, because i use the fund to farming in real world.
pull back the investment plan in the middle of the period would be destabilizing.
so for our common stability, the investment period is 12 months, and can not be withdrawn before maturity.
No Compounding
If you want to reinvest your interest, that's will be like this :
investment #1 = $ 400 for 12 month = $ 20 interest every month
at monthly payment date, we will send you $ 20 to your repayment address.
and if you decide to re invest, you can send again to investment address.
so we count as new investment and will be like this :
investment #1 = $ 400 and 11 month remaining.
investment #2 = $ 20 and 12 month remaining.
So, you have 2 investment with the same payment date every month, but different maturity.
This is to avoid miss understanding.
The interest will be paid at the same date you make the investment every month. Project Update April 22th, 2016Re-write the OP, to make it easy to read, correcting grammar. Old OP looks messy, and ohh about the logo above, don't worry, that pict free royalty from http://www.123rf.com April 23th, 2016 April 26th, 2016 Updated with budget and revenue plans June 15th, 2016 June 21st, 2016 July 8th, 2016 quoting the first post in case OP deletes it. |
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November 18, 2016, 08:29:12 PM |
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If this guy was unable to pay the income for investors, make his farm grow and make profit at same time, he could at least come here to say it and give money back to investors. But his bahavior is unacceptable, until now, our conclusion is that he stolen all the money! At least you have his face here on this video (caution, he can delete this video any moment!): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nni-_V_0_qYCall the indonesian law forces and denounce him. |
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November 18, 2016, 11:46:42 PM |
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no replies I think this pig has now oinked its last oink. My investment was very small compared to yours, unfortunately it don't look good for any investors. So am I right to conclude that this is a Ponzi scheme? Is it a right time for me to make a police report? You go right ahead. I wish you nothing but luck with that. Everyone knew this was a scam from the start. Just look at the interest rates he promised. Anyways you're all screwed. Next time don't be so greedy. |
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November 18, 2016, 11:51:25 PM |
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You guys deserved to lose your money if you have been an intelligent investors a pig farm is not possible to give you a monthly payment.  Glad this turned into scam already. |
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cpfreeplz
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November 19, 2016, 02:15:00 AM |
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You guys deserved to lose your money if you have been an intelligent investors a pig farm is not possible to give you a monthly payment. Glad this turned into scam already. Lol ok let's not exactly go that far. I wouldn't blame the victim per se, but yes it was pretty obvious. The problem is people thought be cause he actually owned pigs that somehow the high rate of return was achievable. If I start a potato farm and tell you I'll give you 200% ROI in a month you'd be asking me how do you could start your own potato farm lol. If it's too good to be true it most likely is. This is exactly that situation. The early investors got s few payments and then all of them got screwed. Don't incest if there's no way to get your money back. He can't give you a pig if you live on the other side of the world (not that you'd want one rofl). |
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November 22, 2016, 01:25:13 AM |
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You guys deserved to lose your money if you have been an intelligent investors a pig farm is not possible to give you a monthly payment. Glad this turned into scam already. Lol ok let's not exactly go that far. I wouldn't blame the victim per se, but yes it was pretty obvious. The problem is people thought be cause he actually owned pigs that somehow the high rate of return was achievable. If I start a potato farm and tell you I'll give you 200% ROI in a month you'd be asking me how do you could start your own potato farm lol. If it's too good to be true it most likely is. This is exactly that situation. The early investors got s few payments and then all of them got screwed. Don't incest if there's no way to get your money back. He can't give you a pig if you live on the other side of the world (not that you'd want one rofl). That is not the only reason why people invested. He showed a video with a farm pig structure, some pictures also of the farm progress. It wasn't like any other Ponzi scheme with unreal promises and no proofs. 5% monthly can be real and he promised to pay the income relative to the investment cost in dollar. Example: if someone invested 1 Bitcoin when the BTC was in $600, he would pay $30 monthly until the end, doesn't matter the BTC price variations. |
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November 23, 2016, 09:59:07 PM |
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You guys deserved to lose your money if you have been an intelligent investors a pig farm is not possible to give you a monthly payment. Glad this turned into scam already. Lol ok let's not exactly go that far. I wouldn't blame the victim per se, but yes it was pretty obvious. The problem is people thought be cause he actually owned pigs that somehow the high rate of return was achievable. If I start a potato farm and tell you I'll give you 200% ROI in a month you'd be asking me how do you could start your own potato farm lol. If it's too good to be true it most likely is. This is exactly that situation. The early investors got s few payments and then all of them got screwed. Don't incest if there's no way to get your money back. He can't give you a pig if you live on the other side of the world (not that you'd want one rofl). That is not the only reason why people invested. He showed a video with a farm pig structure, some pictures also of the farm progress. It wasn't like any other Ponzi scheme with unreal promises and no proofs. 5% monthly can be real and he promised to pay the income relative to the investment cost in dollar. Example: if someone invested 1 Bitcoin when the BTC was in $600, he would pay $30 monthly until the end, doesn't matter the BTC price variations. Offering 5% monthly (assuming simple interest) is the same as offering a 60% return on investment. If you think that's realistic then you're very naive. If I was running a legitimate business I would offer maybe 5%, 10%, or 15% interest and negotiate from there. I would never give someone 60% interest because I'm not a fool with my money. Obviously the @op isn't either as he just made payments until he had enough 'invested' to run. Sure he has a pig farm. I have no doubt in my mind. But offering 60% return from the beggining is obviously too good to be true. Why not just go to a loan shark? Oh that's right, because when you don't pay back the loan shark you'll have your kneecaps broken. Let this be a lesson to anyone reading. Even if it's a legitimate business that doesn't mean high returns are still possible. Who's to say he couldn't get a loan from a bank because he's 100k in debt already? Or he has terrible credit because he doesn't pay people back? |
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November 24, 2016, 06:56:24 AM |
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Still no words from OP so no doubt this have been turned into scam because he is not interested anymore to get more funds as he already had nice amount to do it for himself, that could be very possible reason why he is still out from the scene and people are still waiting to get their investment back.
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November 24, 2016, 07:33:15 PM |
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November 25, 2016, 11:54:06 PM |
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You guys deserved to lose your money if you have been an intelligent investors a pig farm is not possible to give you a monthly payment. Glad this turned into scam already. Lol ok let's not exactly go that far. I wouldn't blame the victim per se, but yes it was pretty obvious. The problem is people thought be cause he actually owned pigs that somehow the high rate of return was achievable. If I start a potato farm and tell you I'll give you 200% ROI in a month you'd be asking me how do you could start your own potato farm lol. If it's too good to be true it most likely is. This is exactly that situation. The early investors got s few payments and then all of them got screwed. Don't incest if there's no way to get your money back. He can't give you a pig if you live on the other side of the world (not that you'd want one rofl). That is not the only reason why people invested. He showed a video with a farm pig structure, some pictures also of the farm progress. It wasn't like any other Ponzi scheme with unreal promises and no proofs. 5% monthly can be real and he promised to pay the income relative to the investment cost in dollar. Example: if someone invested 1 Bitcoin when the BTC was in $600, he would pay $30 monthly until the end, doesn't matter the BTC price variations. Offering 5% monthly (assuming simple interest) is the same as offering a 60% return on investment. If you think that's realistic then you're very naive. If I was running a legitimate business I would offer maybe 5%, 10%, or 15% interest and negotiate from there. I would never give someone 60% interest because I'm not a fool with my money. Obviously the @op isn't either as he just made payments until he had enough 'invested' to run. Sure he has a pig farm. I have no doubt in my mind. But offering 60% return from the beggining is obviously too good to be true. Why not just go to a loan shark? Oh that's right, because when you don't pay back the loan shark you'll have your kneecaps broken. Let this be a lesson to anyone reading. Even if it's a legitimate business that doesn't mean high returns are still possible. Who's to say he couldn't get a loan from a bank because he's 100k in debt already? Or he has terrible credit because he doesn't pay people back? Don't you believe someone can offer 5% interest monthly? It's not impossible. 60% YEARLY isn't an absurd amount. So you 2.5% interest weekly is an absurd too, because on month it will be 10%! And I see some people offering this amount of interest weekly. OP could work the first year just to build his farm and to pay the investors (if he were a honest person), in the second year he could start manking profit for himself, because the investments were already paid. Sorry, I think naivy is who thinks too small that can't believe 5% monthly interest is very possible and I would say reasonable... |
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November 26, 2016, 01:09:15 PM |
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still no reply from OP You've been scammed, learn from this, and hopefully you will not be scammed again. |
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November 27, 2016, 02:10:29 AM |
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Don't you believe someone can offer 5% interest monthly? It's not impossible. 60% YEARLY isn't an absurd amount.
So you 2.5% interest weekly is an absurd too, because on month it will be 10%! And I see some people offering this amount of interest weekly. OP could work the first year just to build his farm and to pay the investors (if he were a honest person), in the second year he could start manking profit for himself, because the investments were already paid.
Sorry, I think naivy is who thinks too small that can't believe 5% monthly interest is very possible and I would say reasonable...
Well thats the point why you deserve to lose money but yet you still need to lose more cause instead of thinking logical, you are being a stubborn donkey lmao! |
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November 28, 2016, 10:28:18 AM |
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still no reply from OP You've been scammed, learn from this, and hopefully you will not be scammed again. This is lesson must be learned by anyone scam incident has been scattered everywhere and we must don't believe on online investment since for me there's totally no real among them and i don't see any site can nor people can give that profit for just waiting, so lets wake up from reality that theres no easy money in this world all need hardwork and efforts, and those offering to good to be true profits and monthly with no basis and proofs of legitemacy is scam. |
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November 29, 2016, 01:22:45 PM |
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still no reply from OP You've been scammed, learn from this, and hopefully you will not be scammed again. This is lesson must be learned by anyone scam incident has been scattered everywhere and we must don't believe on online investment since for me there's totally no real among them and i don't see any site can nor people can give that profit for just waiting, so lets wake up from reality that theres no easy money in this world all need hardwork and efforts, and those offering to good to be true profits and monthly with no basis and proofs of legitemacy is scam. When i see this thread on the past i could say that its a legitimate one because of the payout that he has given to its investors with proofs and also have videos. If its a ponzi then its really hard to detect it from the very start since the return on monthly basis is not just that high compare to those ponzi sites out there but as ive read OP is not already responding seems it turns to scam or any other reason why OP cant able to reply. Lets wait before we fully decide regarding on this matter. |
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still no reply from OP You've been scammed, learn from this, and hopefully you will not be scammed again. This is lesson must be learned by anyone scam incident has been scattered everywhere and we must don't believe on online investment since for me there's totally no real among them and i don't see any site can nor people can give that profit for just waiting, so lets wake up from reality that theres no easy money in this world all need hardwork and efforts, and those offering to good to be true profits and monthly with no basis and proofs of legitemacy is scam. When i see this thread on the past i could say that its a legitimate one because of the payout that he has given to its investors with proofs and also have videos. If its a ponzi then its really hard to detect it from the very start since the return on monthly basis is not just that high compare to those ponzi sites out there but as ive read OP is not already responding seems it turns to scam or any other reason why OP cant able to reply. Lets wait before we fully decide regarding on this matter. Those payouts has been used to attract more investors to invest in his false pig farm business and i really think at very first that all he was stated here is only a lie and wants only to run a scam ponzi one, and how could you afford to wait for more while its quitely long days for not responding to the allegation here? And thats totally the breaking point that he is scam and nothing else added color, thats why we should be carefull since surely another modus will be made again by scammers. |
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still no reply from OP You've been scammed, learn from this, and hopefully you will not be scammed again. This is lesson must be learned by anyone scam incident has been scattered everywhere and we must don't believe on online investment since for me there's totally no real among them and i don't see any site can nor people can give that profit for just waiting, so lets wake up from reality that theres no easy money in this world all need hardwork and efforts, and those offering to good to be true profits and monthly with no basis and proofs of legitemacy is scam. When i see this thread on the past i could say that its a legitimate one because of the payout that he has given to its investors with proofs and also have videos. If its a ponzi then its really hard to detect it from the very start since the return on monthly basis is not just that high compare to those ponzi sites out there but as ive read OP is not already responding seems it turns to scam or any other reason why OP cant able to reply. Lets wait before we fully decide regarding on this matter. Those payouts has been used to attract more investors to invest in his false pig farm business and i really think at very first that all he was stated here is only a lie and wants only to run a scam ponzi one, and how could you afford to wait for more while its quitely long days for not responding to the allegation here? And thats totally the breaking point that he is scam and nothing else added color, thats why we should be carefull since surely another modus will be made again by scammers. Its already a scam since he didnt come back to explain such accusation upon him and also some DT already tagged negative trust so this means we could all conclude that hes a scammer and i feel sorry for those investors who fell on his ponzi scheme tactics. Running a pig farm investments seems new to me and i could say all scammer would really find a way to scam people no matter which way as long they could able to victimized people. |
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December 03, 2016, 10:55:41 AM |
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still no reply from OP You've been scammed, learn from this, and hopefully you will not be scammed again. This is lesson must be learned by anyone scam incident has been scattered everywhere and we must don't believe on online investment since for me there's totally no real among them and i don't see any site can nor people can give that profit for just waiting, so lets wake up from reality that theres no easy money in this world all need hardwork and efforts, and those offering to good to be true profits and monthly with no basis and proofs of legitemacy is scam. When i see this thread on the past i could say that its a legitimate one because of the payout that he has given to its investors with proofs and also have videos. If its a ponzi then its really hard to detect it from the very start since the return on monthly basis is not just that high compare to those ponzi sites out there but as ive read OP is not already responding seems it turns to scam or any other reason why OP cant able to reply. Lets wait before we fully decide regarding on this matter. Those payouts has been used to attract more investors to invest in his false pig farm business and i really think at very first that all he was stated here is only a lie and wants only to run a scam ponzi one, and how could you afford to wait for more while its quitely long days for not responding to the allegation here? And thats totally the breaking point that he is scam and nothing else added color, thats why we should be carefull since surely another modus will be made again by scammers. Its already a scam since he didnt come back to explain such accusation upon him and also some DT already tagged negative trust so this means we could all conclude that hes a scammer and i feel sorry for those investors who fell on his ponzi scheme tactics. Running a pig farm investments seems new to me and i could say all scammer would really find a way to scam people no matter which way as long they could able to victimized people. And why such people believes on him while its to shaddy to give some profits to their investors while theres no totally strong proof that he own a farm, and maybe those fake proof he shown are just stolen to anothet pig farm thats why at very first he's totally a scam and just want to run the ponzi game and look at now he'd fleed already and surely 100% that he will not comeback again. |
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