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April 19, 2016, 12:23:14 AM
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Pig Farm Investment



INTRO

Hi, maybe I'm not good at stringing a sweet words for marketing, but I'll explain as easy as possible to understand.  Smiley
I have a pigsty unused, the number of 21 blocks. Each block size 2m x 3m to accommodate one breeding pigs or 20 piglets.
Pigsty is my own and unused since 2 years ago. 2 years ago the price of pig feed is very expensive and does not cover the cost of maintenance.
So at that point I decided to close the pigsty.This time the situation was better, so I decided to re-open the pigsty.

Who am I ?

I'm Alit, i live in Indonesia. My last education is Bachelor in Agriculture. I experienced for more than 10 years as a breeder pigs.
The pigsty is my own, the land also my own, this pigsty located approximately 30 meters from my house.

Why I'm looking for Investors ?

To be honest, I do not have enough money for capital venture. I had to borrow money of $ 700,
and only enough to buy one breeding pigs, 10 piglets and for backup pig food.
I need a big capital to fill the 21 block and maintenance cost.

How much do i need ?

I've calculated how much exactly do i need to run this pig farm 100 %
The total i need is 26 BTC and when reached, i will stop receiving invesment to avoid ponzi scheme.
The detail here :

Budget Plan

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cpD60shwRd-yNllkXg5OLL3DJCZQA8GtT4y5cLpqEYs/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=164451329

Revenue Plan

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iS2HIzmyjdiDjxheIZgDg3p6R4U5UrtbX6RexI-uXGc/edit?pref=2&pli=1


What I offer

If you are interested investing in real businesses with crypto, I invite you to join.
Here is the details :

I offer an interest of 5 % monthly
Minimum investment is 0.01 BTC and no maximum investment.
Investment period is 12 months
No Compounding, please read at the end of this post.
Every month, you will only receive interest payments, the principal will be paid at maturity and can not be withdrawn before maturity

For reference, this time, the purchase price of one piglet around 0.07 BTC - 0.08 BTC and sow price around 0.45 BTC - 0.55 BTC

Whether I'm SCAM you ?

Nope, I'm just trying to build my pig farms, of course all there is a risk. I can't guarantee this will work 100 %.
I can guarantee this will 99 % work based on my experience raising pigs. And the 1 % is lucky  Smiley

Whoaaa, you got red negative trust

Yeahh, i got it from Vod, and that's an honor to me. He's doing his job to warns us together so remain cautious.
That's will motivate me to work in real life and keep the trust from investors.

Your interest rate too low

Well, 5 % monthly in real life is a medium, but in crypto maybe too low or medium to me.
If i set more than 5 % monthly, that the same meaning i kills the business slowly. And we both will loss.
This is a long term investment, not an instant rich scheme.

Please think carefully before investing.

If you are interested, you can send your BTC to this address :

1EW4L38SWhLeBX5zPpWNpTJHYgU33eJWZ8

and please send me a PM or reply to this thread.
Investors will be listed on the page 2 of this thread

How do you handle Bitcoin price fluctuation ?

We will value your bitcoin in USD, based on the price when you make an investment.
For example :

If you invest 1 BTC and the price is $ 400
So your principal will be $ 400 and your monthly interest will be $ 20
I'll pay interest every month using bitcoin equivalent of $ 20 and principal when maturity using bitcoin equivalent of $ 400 ,bitcoin price at that time.
No matter what the price of bitcoin then.

How i will pay you ?

Because I have to pay monthly, while breeding pigs need 155 days in one cycle, so I'll use half of the investment to buy and sell piglets.
I will buy piglets from local farmers and sell to bigger piglets collectors. I act as a middleman.
This will give a profit to pay your interest, untill sows began to produce.

Whether I am anonymous ?

Nope, Investors who invest their money to me, have a right to know about me.
If you like and have a time, you can come to visit me  Smiley

My Twitter account : https://twitter.com/AlitFX


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Additional Information

12 months investment period is for stability, because i use the fund to farming in real world.
pull back the investment plan in the middle of the period would be destabilizing.
so for our common stability, the investment period is 12 months, and can not be withdrawn before maturity.

No Compounding

If you want to reinvest your interest, that's will be like this :

investment #1 = $ 400 for 12 month = $ 20 interest every month

at monthly payment date, we will send you $ 20 to your repayment address.
and if you decide to re invest, you can send again to investment address.
so we count as new investment and will be like this :

investment #1 = $ 400 and 11 month remaining.
investment #2 = $ 20 and 12 month remaining.

So, you have 2 investment with the same payment date every month, but different maturity.
This is to avoid miss understanding.
The interest will be paid at the same date you make the investment every month.

Project Update

April 22th, 2016

Re-write the OP, to make it easy to read, correcting grammar. Old OP looks messy, and ohh about the logo above,
don't worry, that pict free royalty from http://www.123rf.com

April 23th, 2016

Updated with short video, i will try tu update regularly from beginning, in biweekly interval.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nni-_V_0_qY

April 26th, 2016

Updated with budget and revenue plans

June 15th, 2016


June 21st, 2016


July 8th, 2016


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April 19, 2016, 12:23:46 AM
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#1. netmonk BCT Profile : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=353373
      Investment period = 12 months
      Amount invested = $ 437.78
      Interest paid monthly = $ 21.89 every 20th
      Principal maturity = April 20th, 2017
      Repayment will be made in BTC , equivalent to the USD amount above.
      Repayment address : https://blockchain.info/address/1CWFJe4WEeHJicxoFAMaCSeaN8nCZYTzCv
      1st payment  :  https://blockchain.info/tx-index/7bc0c67f1bd697a29c98ab6316a96612e8c312139ba16d9ab52a98c1d4f8f07f
      2nd payment  :  https://blockchain.info/tx/ca68fd8f69d1ddcb2445b5d2c9dc774fb4b71cb9be291ade4e227907eb762765
      3rd payment : https://blockchain.info/tx/053b62baf3d27610d6eaad339cf5ac6ffa64e50ad31c5d326525cdf6ee272006
      4th payment : https://blockchain.info/tx/44c1aabc6c1ec12ea4e27550c95680aad5722778b8a4634f4b9fee99229a8081
      5th payment : https://blockchain.info/tx/efcc2af5a1425c8762a6a0f4daa7db1a95d037348823341aef4be5bbf2d30a9b
      6th payment : https://blockchain.info/tx/ea77f221e4a0e348c6f14d75bbe9cdea2bd43ce2d231c6cb94b4ac58d80a0d0a


#2. NightEagle BCT Profile : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=883371
      Investment period = 12 months
      Amount invested = $ 17
      Interest paid monthly = $ 0.85 every 3rd
      Principal maturity = August 3rd, 2017
      Repayment will be made in BTC , equivalent to the USD amount above.
      Repayment address :  https://blockchain.info/address/19CvDJFQs6UkFNduDskJapzFs8UrKdzbCJ
      1st payment  :  https://blockchain.info/tx/d84a341022350e94894fa6de550738e934b15d04542f7131bfe5086fb3c9cd33
      2nd payment  :  https://blockchain.info/tx/e9f085ed7be6326439f782d018c272a3c339242d05805d18cc1c731869c23497
      3rd payment  :  https://blockchain.info/tx/12b70a0785e6e14fb730f247120f8c782ad931bb40fc82653f8907e7a9f7218e

#3. angusmoo888 BCT Profile : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=895976
      Investment period = 12 months
      Amount invested = $ 415
      Interest paid monthly = $ 20.75 every 8th
      Principal maturity = September 8th, 2017
      Repayment will be made in BTC , equivalent to the USD amount above.
      Repayment address :  https://blockchain.info/address/1H1isckN4wHQcYn4GQk8qWAMvNo6oE5hxV
      1st payment  :  https://blockchain.info/tx/e3dccfd4d7586912f57cd11d4797ed668824f8a4128bbafdf7a222befc0ed44c

#4. notnormals BCT Profile : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=851915
      Investment period = 12 months
      Amount invested = $ 9.46
      Interest paid monthly = $ 0.48 every 9th
      Principal maturity = September 9th, 2017
      Repayment will be made in BTC , equivalent to the USD amount above.
      Repayment address :  https://blockchain.info/address/18vEQRVGGcPyG2Haz1qJpTMSWrbxZGyNnh
      1st payment  :  https://blockchain.info/tx/ca66e4bc19fb9feccb6ce8abf72d3b34ccbc943168f4e494708434b81541ecd8

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April 19, 2016, 12:44:46 AM
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How much return do you expect from raising and selling the pigs?  It sounds like it is a very tight market and you already couldn't make a go of it once.  Now you want to pay 60% plus the original loan money over a 1 year period.  With that sort of interest rate, you are dooming the venture from the start.

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April 19, 2016, 01:10:20 AM
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How much return do you expect from raising and selling the pigs?  It sounds like it is a very tight market and you already couldn't make a go of it once.  Now you want to pay 60% plus the original loan money over a 1 year period.  With that sort of interest rate, you are dooming the venture from the start.


Buy and sell piglets margin profit is 5 % to 10 % pure profit each , already cut transport costs and labor , ussualy this take 3 - 7 days.

Sow pregnant for 114 days and piglets ready to sell when aged 30 days to 36 days. 7 days after weaning, the mother would be ready to be mated again.So in one cycle i count 155 days.

BEP for one sow is if gave birth to 6 piglets in one cycle. Total price for 6 piglets will cover maintenance cost.
If one sow gave birth for more than 6 piglets, that's will be pure profit.
Normally,they gave birth 8 - 12 piglets, the average is 10

basic math,not so detail, if work normally

1 sow ( cost avg 0.5 BTC )
gave birth 10 ( the price 0.7 BTC )

pure profit will be 40 % in 155 days ( 4 piglets = 0.28 BTC )

in one years is 365 / 155 x 4 piglets = 9.4 piglets  Smiley ok we count 9 piglets or 90 %

so i think it's reasonable to offer maximum 5 % monthly interset.

as i said, this is a long term investment, 1 year period is a check point, and i hope when maturity, they will continue to invest again.

For information, this is just local pig farm run by me as individual, not a big farm.




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Well it sounds like you know what you're doing but my fear would be that bitcoin value increases due to the halving and you would be unable to pay unless the pigs similarly increase in value.   Now if bitcoin value stays constant or goes down, you'll be fine but I am not expecting this to happen.  Perhaps it would be better for you to value it in your local currency but convert to bitcoin as a means of transfer.  In this way, fluctuations in bitcoin value wont kill the investment.
 

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Well it sounds like you know what you're doing but my fear would be that bitcoin value increases due to the halving and you would be unable to pay unless the pigs similarly increase in value.   Now if bitcoin value stays constant or goes down, you'll be fine but I am not expecting this to happen.  Perhaps it would be better for you to value it in your local currency but convert to bitcoin as a means of transfer.  In this way, fluctuations in bitcoin value wont kill the investment.
 

yes, you right about this, we will not know what the price of bitcoin next year.

I received your advice. but because we here come from world wide, I prefer to value bitcoin in USD. So this will make it safer than bitcoin fluctuation.

Thank you for your advise.

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April 19, 2016, 02:10:21 PM
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How and what condition to exit the business?

Let's say i invest 1btc today,

If i want to get it back in 6 months, how do we proceed ?

Also, is it possible to reinvest, instead of receiving monthly/weekly payment ?
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April 19, 2016, 02:38:03 PM
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How and what condition to exit the business?

Let's say i invest 1btc today,

If i want to get it back in 6 months, how do we proceed ?



12 months investment period is for stability, because i use the fund to farming in real world.
pull back the investment plan in the middle of the period would be destabilizing.

so for our common stability, the investment period is 12 months, and can not be withdrawn before maturity.

i'm sorry i forget to write this on the thread.

and for re invest

if you want to invest your interest,that's will count as new investment.

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a separated one ?
or it's the initial one being resetted on time frame ? Smiley

I mean i invest 1btc (400usd)
after one month
which situation :
2 investments one of 400 11months remaining and one 20 12 months remaining
or one investment of 420 with 12 months remaining ?

because without reinvesting, the benefit will be 240$ for 400$ invested 12 months
with reinvesting 5% every month at the end of year the profit is ~318$ [400*(1+0.05)^12-400]


And another question : when the interest payment occur :
- at begining of each month ?
- at anniversary of day of entrance (for exemple i send you today 1btc, you will pay me every 19th of each months)?
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a separated one ?
or it's the initial one being resetted on time frame ? Smiley

I mean i invest 1btc (400usd)
after one month
which situation :
2 investments one of 400 11months remaining and one 20 12 months remaining
or one investment of 420 with 12 months remaining ?



investment #1 = $ 400 for 12 month = $ 20 interest every month

at first month you receive $ 20 interest and you decide to re invest.

so we count as new investment and will be like this :

investment #1 = $ 400 and 11 month remaining.
investment #2 = $ 20 and 12 month remaining.

so, you have 2 investment with the payment date is the same every month

the interest will be paid at the same date you make the investment every month.


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a separated one ?
or it's the initial one being resetted on time frame ? Smiley

I mean i invest 1btc (400usd)
after one month
which situation :
2 investments one of 400 11months remaining and one 20 12 months remaining
or one investment of 420 with 12 months remaining ?



investment #1 = $ 400 for 12 month = $ 20 interest every month

at first month you receive $ 20 interest and you decide to re invest.

so we count as new investment and will be like this :

investment #1 = $ 400 and 11 month remaining.
investment #2 = $ 20 and 12 month remaining.

so, you have 2 investment with the payment date is the same every month

Too bad, compound interest on weekly basis give better benefit ~368$ Smiley for 400$ invested

You should add all those information in the #1 post Smiley I think im not the only curious around ! Smiley
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a separated one ?
or it's the initial one being resetted on time frame ? Smiley

I mean i invest 1btc (400usd)
after one month
which situation :
2 investments one of 400 11months remaining and one 20 12 months remaining
or one investment of 420 with 12 months remaining ?



investment #1 = $ 400 for 12 month = $ 20 interest every month

at first month you receive $ 20 interest and you decide to re invest.

so we count as new investment and will be like this :

investment #1 = $ 400 and 11 month remaining.
investment #2 = $ 20 and 12 month remaining.

so, you have 2 investment with the payment date is the same every month

Too bad, compound interest on weekly basis give better benefit ~368$ Smiley for 400$ invested



yeah  Smiley but compound interest too dangerous for long term.  Smiley

thank you, added to post #1

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Where will the money that you use to pay the first week's interest payment come from?

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I think that "force" a pig to get weight is too hard... there is an high risk of infective disease (than you need antibiotics) .... Pig meat is one of the most economy meat.... I don't know if this could be a nice work... (then wash and work there is really hard....) mmmm
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Where will the money that you use to pay the first week's interest payment come from?

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How i will pay you ?

Because I have to pay monthly, while breeding pigs need time 155 days, so I'll use half the investment to buy and sell piglets.
I will buy piglets from local farmers and sell to piglets collectors. This will give a profit to pay your interest, untill sow began to produce.

buy and sell piglets is a fastest way to get fast profit, profit margin is 5% - 10 % each, this usually take 3 - 7 days process.
but this depend on luck, more can buy, the more profit.
the process like this :
i'm buying piglets from local people who only have 1 or 2 sow, collect piglets and sell them to bigger colector.

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I think that "force" a pig to get weight is too hard... there is an high risk of infective disease (than you need antibiotics) .... Pig meat is one of the most economy meat.... I don't know if this could be a nice work... (then wash and work there is really hard....) mmmm

i think every work have his own risk. disease control is part of maintenance cost.
i'm focusing in breeding, not fattening. Fattening need more cost, because they need more feed.
well, whatever the job, if you like it, that will be a nice work  Wink

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It's a nice business idea. Many people can see your example and try soemething like that. But for invest i think it's very risk. You can be a master animal-breeder, but there is always a chance to bankruptcy and i think this chance doesn't worth the income monthly rate...

Anyway good luck for you, i hope you create your pigs farm and make profit with it.

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It's a nice business idea. Many people can see your example and try soemething like that. But for invest i think it's very risk. You can be a master animal-breeder, but there is always a chance to bankruptcy and i think this chance doesn't worth the income monthly rate...

Anyway good luck for you, i hope you create your pigs farm and make profit with it.

thank you for replying this thread.
every business have a chance of bankruptcy. that's like 99 % effort and 1 % lucky.
i'm just offering monthly income rate that i can cover for long term, but it all goes back to the type of investor whether he was a moderate or aggressive in investing.

good luck too to you buddy  Smiley

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April 20, 2016, 03:38:27 AM
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No offense against the OP but just chilling on your coins will give you a better ROI on your investment due to the halving both before and after. There it is.
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Crosspost.  This is a ponzi.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1442262.msg14600833#msg14600833

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