Threat of ban!

[Videodrome]

The Italian forum moderator HostFat today has threatened me of ban.I am conducting an intellectual campaign to free the Italian forum by scammers and profiteers. The italian forum moderator Hostfat accuses me of going OT(and he pass all the day deleting and moving what he decides is  OT) and he also accuse me of threatening other users. I'm just expressing my free thought and I'm not threatening anyone!

Who really knows me on this forum knows that I am a good person.

After this post I will come shortly banned just for having expressed opinions if this happens please write neutral trust in protest on his page:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=203

thanks

this is the proof of his threat:



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If you made other OT or threat , also veiled threats , we will be taking action.

And this is my answer :

You accuse me of threats, when I never threatened anyone? And in turn you make me a threat?

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[longbob72]

it's called a moderator warning, dude.
cmiiw but looks like you're trying to scare the OP and (indirectly) their relatives with legal threats.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1096711.msg14598055#msg14598055

[botany]

As far as I am aware, moderators only 'propose' bans and admins hand them out.
You should consider yourself lucky that you got a warning.
Not all people do.

[HostFat]

How everything has begun.


Here he said that it was good to take away money if they are received by mistake of someone else.
1) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1200265.msg14184859#msg14184859

2) Anon39 has given a neutral trust because of this, you can find it here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=560876

3) After this it has started a flame on the original thread of bitgold, that I thought it was OT, so I DIDN'T deleted it, but I moved the OT posts in the italian OT section:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1401870.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1401691.0

4) Videodrome has also opened another bitgold clone thread with flame included at the start
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1401729.0

5) After this, he started a negative trust war against Anon39, which personally I don't really care.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1441554.0

6) BUT after this he started to make legal threats against Gianluca95 here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1441554.msg14585168#msg14585168
And again here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1441554.msg14585737#msg14585737


7) Then he did another legal threats to BitNow
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1096711.msg14598055#msg14598055


8 ) After this, I sent him the PM, and he chose to make it public here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1441554.msg14599437#msg14599437
This is a full flame discussion against Anon39 and me (because I've moved to OT some messages - point 3)
You can see that I didn't wrote anything until he made public my PM for what he did in 7

9) This was my reply:

Per precisione, il link riportato nell'immagine è questo, per chi volesse cliccarci velocemente:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1096711.msg14598055#msg14598055

@Videodrome
Avevo inviato il PM perchè, in genere, facendo richiami di questo tipo si finisce nello sputtanamento pubblico, che ti volevo evitare.
Comunque hai preferito rendere tu ben evidente il tuo attuale comportamento, e il mio avvertimento resta valido.

Translation:

For accuracy, the link in the image is this one, for who wants to easily click it:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1096711.msg14598055#msg14598055

@Videodrome
I sent you the PM because, usually, by doing public blame against someone, that it finish in a public making fun of him, that I wanted to avoid to you.
Anyway, you preferred to make it public your current behavior, and my warning remains valid.

[Videodrome]

Hostfat is declaring false, mine are not legal threats but examples of how the hypocrites and moralists simultaneously break the law and if one expresses an opinion against banks or a protected member they attack you in group with multiple negative trust and targeted actions.

I have also wrote that I'd never done any kind of legal complaint but they were provocations that their low IQ did not understand.

They are in bad faith do not believe in this false  reconstruction created to discredit me.

Everyone involved share  economic interests in a lot of fraud activity for Italian law like casinos (Vegascasino) and illegal money change (bitnow), Italy is a mafia country and here you have a clear proof of who they really are and why they are attacking me in a group.

Mafia always acting in a group, has power and common economic interests  does not admit foreigners,makes threats as the main activity discredit the people to take advantage and make them weak.


EDIT :

For clarification :

when Hostfat says :

How everything has begun.

Here he said that it was good to take away money if they are received by mistake of someone else.
1) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1200265.msg14184859#msg14184859

The someone else. is a BANK and he knows it because he can read the Italian(and I used the word bank!!). This proves its willingness to modify the events to his liking.Changing even one small detail the meaning of the story changes.

if it was a correct person he would write :

How everything has begun.

Here he said that it was good to take away money if they are received by mistake by a Bank.
1) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1200265.msg14184859#msg14184859

but to defend his friend and probably colleague Anon39 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1232982.0) is arranged to lie on the English forum.

If we were on the Italian forum all my messages would already been deleted!  

[Anon39]

This is getting really hilarious 
You have a really imaginative mind... from a neutral trust to a global italian mafia bitcointalk conspiracy... I am speachless.
I will try anyway to reply to this nonsense.

Hostfat is declaring false, mine are not legal threats but examples of how the hypocrites and moralists simultaneously break the law and if one expresses an opinion against banks or a protected member they attack you in group with multiple negative trust and targeted actions.

multiple what? you have one negative trust (mine) and (as I already said 3 times) I gave you the negative because you gave me non-sense negatives (trust abuse). No other reasons.

I have also wrote that I'd never done any kind of legal complaint but they were provocations that their low IQ did not understand.

This speaks for itself

Everyone involved share  economic interests in a lot of fraud activity for Italian law like casinos (Vegascasino)

I dont even know what Vegascasino is.

and illegal money change (bitnow)

In your opinion selling or buying bitcoin is illegal, ok, I respect your opinon.

Italy is a mafia country and here you have a clear proof of who they really are and why they are attacking me in a group.

This is completely false. In italy "you are part of mafia" is an insult. Because mafia ruins society.

Mafia always acting in a group, has power and common economic interests  does not admit foreigners,makes threats as the main activity discredit the people to take advantage and make them weak.

You are the only one threatening here. And you have done this with me before because you did not like my neutral trust - you heavly insulted, negative trusted, publicly accused me because you wanted me to delete that neutral trust.

[Videodrome]

I did not understand why you had not written yet! Here you can not delete my messages sorry!

[Anon39]

EDIT :

For clarification :

when Hostfat says :

....

The someone else. is a BANK and he knows it because he can read the Italian(and I used the word bank!!). This proves its willingness to modify the events to his liking.Changing even one small detail the meaning of the story changes.

if it was a correct person he would write :

...

but to defend his friend and probably colleague Anon39 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=165089) is arranged to lie on the English forum.

Compliments! good figure! If we were on the Italian forum all my messages would already been deleted!  

about the edit:
Again you are the one lying: you said here that you were going to sell bitgold funds obtained with a bug (thats how the story started) after i told you that this was bad you stated that because bitgold isn't a non-profit organization it was ok.

I did not understand why you had not written yet! Here you can not delete my messages sorry!

Here we go again with the trolling bs: I have never deleted posts from my self-moderates thread.

[Videodrome]

about the edit:
Again you are the one lying: you said here that you were going to sell bitgold funds obtained with a bug (thats how the story started) after i told you that this was bad you stated that because bitgold isn't a non-profit organization it was ok.

Another lie, and you know it : Your trust is about my phrase on Banks and you have also linked it and there are a lot proof of that. (If you can not delete them before).

Now you talk about bitgold to divert attention as a professional in mystification.

Here we are on the English forum you have not the strength and power of censorship exercised on the Italian forum. I'm sorry you have to get used to it

[Anon39]

Another lie, and you know it : Your trust is about my phrase on Banks and you have also linked it and there are a lot proof of that. (If you can not delete them before).

lol my trust is about your opinion: "stealing money given by mistake is ok" you express this opinion in more than one phrase. i linked the post in the discussion.

Now you talk about bitgold to divert attention as a professional in mystification.

uhm no, you stated your opinion talking about bitgold funds and after again talking about banks

Here we are on the English forum you have not the strength and power of censorship exercised on the Italian forum. I'm sorry you have to get used to it

again and again, I never deleted any post in my threads, and I have no power in the italian or in any forum here.



Edit: I think that this is getting pretty long and repetitive, If you keep repeating yourself to make the thread unreadable i will not reply.

[Videodrome]

Is only the beginning, soon will come the other. Like a big family.

This is my complaint about how the Italian community is managed. The evidence is visible to everyone.

[Lauda]

In that case that you were breaking the rules, you should be grateful. Usually, the ban itself is the warning.

The evidence is visible to everyone.

Do I look Italian to you? Unless someone translates this so called 'evidence' there is nothing that I nor anyone who does not speak Italian can do.

[BadBear]

I am conducting an intellectual campaign to free the Italian forum by scammers and profiteers.

That's fine, but the rules still apply. You should take a breather, get with Hostfat and make more of an effort.

[Dank14]

Will everyone just calm down please?

He threatened to ban you but did not, take note of the warning and try to avoid it in future.

The only way you can get on with people is by being diplomatic. Someone I respect told me that, and I have seen it work several times.

IT'S CALLED DIPLOMACY!!

[Videodrome]

Mine is a peaceful protest against the management of the Italian forum. In response I received threats, negative trust(some trust now is magically disappear) and the whole family against me led by Anon39.

This is an example of how social and political things work in Italy.

I put everything in the light of the sun, I do not care of the numerous offenses that I'm getting, I'm not offended and never offend anyone because I am for freedom of expression.

The Italian community is afraid to speak because they are subject to immediate censure(and they are afraid to go against Hostfat). I had to open this thread here to avoid being gagged.

[Anon39]

Mine is a peaceful protest against the management of the Italian forum. In response I received threats, negative trust(some trust now is magically disappear) and the whole family against me led by Anon39.

FALSE:

you have one negative trust (mine) and (as I already said 3 times) I gave you the negative because you gave me non-sense negatives (trust abuse). No other reasons.

You received only 1 negative trust, mine. For a specific reason.
Can you stop posting bullshit?

EDIT: i guess he can't, he just left me another completely false negative feedback:

[Videodrome]

trust removed,I overdid it, you're not in charge of any conspiracy.I also want to say sorry to Hostfat.

we need some change in italian community but this is not the way to resolve problems.

[Anon39]

trust removed,I overdid it, you're not in charge of any conspiracy.I also want to say sorry to Hostfat.

we need some change in italian community but this is not the way to resolve problems.

Glad to hear that. That was a big series of accusation, i can't understand why you did that. But anyway, I removed my Negative trust.

[Videodrome]

trust removed,I overdid it, you're not in charge of any conspiracy.I also want to say sorry to Hostfat.

we need some change in italian community but this is not the way to resolve problems.

Glad to hear that. That was a big series of accusation, i can't understand why you did that. But anyway, I removed my Negative trust.

I'm glad that everything was resolved peacefully. We must fight together to clean up the forum by the scammer and not make war between us!