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April 21, 2016, 06:26:42 PM
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Hey there guys,


I work in a large office building that is poorly heated. Generally in colder months they allow people to run their own space heaters in their respective areas. Most of the space heaters around here i see are in the 1000w area so not too indifferent from an asic.

If i ran a smaller asic in my area and used it like a space heater... would the traffic from the mining generate any weird looking traffic on IT's end? If so is there any way to mask that traffic? Now we have hundreds of computers and an open wifi ap. So there is all kinds of traffic here to begin with. But at night when no one is here.. i could see something like that looking fishy to IT. What are your thoughts?

Thanks in advance.
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April 22, 2016, 02:06:32 AM
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A) The fans are too noisy and will attract everyone's attention
B) If caught you will be fired and possibly charged with petty theft (of electricity)
C) Is that worth ~ 6USD /day to you?


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April 22, 2016, 02:11:33 AM
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Depends, whoever runs IT at your company will be able to see it.
And you're not looking at a big payout with only 1 kW, especially if you don't have the ASIC and PSU to begin with.

Constant traffic on weekends and non working hours will look suspicious.

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April 22, 2016, 10:43:42 PM
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A) The fans are too noisy and will attract everyone's attention
B) If caught you will be fired and possibly charged with petty theft (of electricity)
C) Is that worth ~ 6USD /day to you?



This is not so much an issue. Any of these. In-fact i'd probably disclose this information. Btw an S5 with some decent cooler master fans isn't loud at all. So in respect to point C. Yes. Because A,B don't apply.
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April 22, 2016, 10:50:30 PM
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Depends, whoever runs IT at your company will be able to see it.
And you're not looking at a big payout with only 1 kW, especially if you don't have the ASIC and PSU to begin with.

Constant traffic on weekends and non working hours will look suspicious.


I don't believe our IT personal would really monitor traffic like this... but i don't know. Personally he cant even keep the network up most days. I would run an ASIC, probably an S5.

I can't stress enough that people need to read original posts. I said right there we all run our own space heaters. This is merely taking the place of a space heater. And since electricity converts into heat energy so wonderfully, it will probably work just as good.

Hey worst case scenario i can run a Pi and dongle it. This would eliminate network traffic altogether.


How much traffic is generated typically in a day?
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April 23, 2016, 12:47:41 AM
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Depends, whoever runs IT at your company will be able to see it.
And you're not looking at a big payout with only 1 kW, especially if you don't have the ASIC and PSU to begin with.

Constant traffic on weekends and non working hours will look suspicious.


I don't believe our IT personal would really monitor traffic like this... but i don't know. Personally he cant even keep the network up most days. I would run an ASIC, probably an S5.

I can't stress enough that people need to read original posts. I said right there we all run our own space heaters. This is merely taking the place of a space heater. And since electricity converts into heat energy so wonderfully, it will probably work just as good.

Hey worst case scenario i can run a Pi and dongle it. This would eliminate network traffic altogether.


How much traffic is generated typically in a day?

I read your original post and I don't see how my answer deviates from it.
IT sees everything if you're connected to your company's network.
It's very stupid to bite the the hand that feeds you, a miner doesn't heat as well as a space heater.
You are still stealing energy to mine for your own profit.


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April 23, 2016, 12:58:16 AM
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Depends, whoever runs IT at your company will be able to see it.
And you're not looking at a big payout with only 1 kW, especially if you don't have the ASIC and PSU to begin with.

Constant traffic on weekends and non working hours will look suspicious.


I don't believe our IT personal would really monitor traffic like this... but i don't know. Personally he cant even keep the network up most days. I would run an ASIC, probably an S5.

I can't stress enough that people need to read original posts. I said right there we all run our own space heaters. This is merely taking the place of a space heater. And since electricity converts into heat energy so wonderfully, it will probably work just as good.

Hey worst case scenario i can run a Pi and dongle it. This would eliminate network traffic altogether.


How much traffic is generated typically in a day?

I read your original post and I don't see how my answer deviates from it.
IT sees everything if you're connected to your company's network.
It's very stupid to bite the the hand that feeds you.




You seem very stuck on being a parent figure rather than giving me the info i asked for. So either contribute to this thread and provide that answer. Or see yourself out of the thread. It's that simple.

While i'm very aware of the fact that i don't need to explain myself to you, as mentioned in the earlier post, but they will not have a problem with what i am doing locally. But i work for a worldwide company that shares a vpn with many other facilities across the world. If i had to guess, the amount of computers on this network is in the thousands. People work night, weekends, connect directly to the network from home, all kinds of traffic at all hours. I find it very hard to believe that one man would be able to point out random packets moving across one of 50 facilities, on one computer out of 1000, on a connection over 100mb. Especially considering my VPN software is connected from my home computer almost all the time. I can connect offsite from onsite and visa versa. The VPN software i'm using btw, was banned by the company, and yet they failed to notice iv'e been using it for over 1.5 years. To sound even more redundant to a point I shouldn't be explaining to you, as mentioned, I can use a cellular dongle, or tether, cutting myself off from the network altogether.... but you must have read that too. I can see why you might ignore that tidbit as it shatters your argument to pieces. Cheers.

Also forget the information i was looking for (bandwidth data), as i'm tracking it right now through my rig anyways.

Thanks for.... well nothing really.
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April 23, 2016, 07:22:10 PM
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Depends, whoever runs IT at your company will be able to see it.
And you're not looking at a big payout with only 1 kW, especially if you don't have the ASIC and PSU to begin with.

Constant traffic on weekends and non working hours will look suspicious.


I don't believe our IT personal would really monitor traffic like this... but i don't know. Personally he cant even keep the network up most days. I would run an ASIC, probably an S5.

I can't stress enough that people need to read original posts. I said right there we all run our own space heaters. This is merely taking the place of a space heater. And since electricity converts into heat energy so wonderfully, it will probably work just as good.

Hey worst case scenario i can run a Pi and dongle it. This would eliminate network traffic altogether.


How much traffic is generated typically in a day?

I read your original post and I don't see how my answer deviates from it.
IT sees everything if you're connected to your company's network.
It's very stupid to bite the the hand that feeds you.




You seem very stuck on being a parent figure rather than giving me the info i asked for. So either contribute to this thread and provide that answer. Or see yourself out of the thread. It's that simple.

While i'm very aware of the fact that i don't need to explain myself to you, as mentioned in the earlier post, but they will not have a problem with what i am doing locally. But i work for a worldwide company that shares a vpn with many other facilities across the world. If i had to guess, the amount of computers on this network is in the thousands. People work night, weekends, connect directly to the network from home, all kinds of traffic at all hours. I find it very hard to believe that one man would be able to point out random packets moving across one of 50 facilities, on one computer out of 1000, on a connection over 100mb. Especially considering my VPN software is connected from my home computer almost all the time. I can connect offsite from onsite and visa versa. The VPN software i'm using btw, was banned by the company, and yet they failed to notice iv'e been using it for over 1.5 years. To sound even more redundant to a point I shouldn't be explaining to you, as mentioned, I can use a cellular dongle, or tether, cutting myself off from the network altogether.... but you must have read that too. I can see why you might ignore that tidbit as it shatters your argument to pieces. Cheers.

Also forget the information i was looking for (bandwidth data), as i'm tracking it right now through my rig anyways.

Thanks for.... well nothing really.

Unsure what you're looking for in this thread, you basically answered all the questions you had yourself.
Why are you asking our thoughts about "looking fishy to IT" if you plan on not using their network?

You seem to be pretty convinced that the appropriate thing to do is to steal from your employer, so I'm not sure what you're looking for here.

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April 23, 2016, 08:29:59 PM
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Depends, whoever runs IT at your company will be able to see it.
And you're not looking at a big payout with only 1 kW, especially if you don't have the ASIC and PSU to begin with.

Constant traffic on weekends and non working hours will look suspicious.


I don't believe our IT personal would really monitor traffic like this... but i don't know. Personally he cant even keep the network up most days. I would run an ASIC, probably an S5.

I can't stress enough that people need to read original posts. I said right there we all run our own space heaters. This is merely taking the place of a space heater. And since electricity converts into heat energy so wonderfully, it will probably work just as good.

Hey worst case scenario i can run a Pi and dongle it. This would eliminate network traffic altogether.


How much traffic is generated typically in a day?

I read your original post and I don't see how my answer deviates from it.
IT sees everything if you're connected to your company's network.
It's very stupid to bite the the hand that feeds you.




You seem very stuck on being a parent figure rather than giving me the info i asked for. So either contribute to this thread and provide that answer. Or see yourself out of the thread. It's that simple.

While i'm very aware of the fact that i don't need to explain myself to you, as mentioned in the earlier post, but they will not have a problem with what i am doing locally. But i work for a worldwide company that shares a vpn with many other facilities across the world. If i had to guess, the amount of computers on this network is in the thousands. People work night, weekends, connect directly to the network from home, all kinds of traffic at all hours. I find it very hard to believe that one man would be able to point out random packets moving across one of 50 facilities, on one computer out of 1000, on a connection over 100mb. Especially considering my VPN software is connected from my home computer almost all the time. I can connect offsite from onsite and visa versa. The VPN software i'm using btw, was banned by the company, and yet they failed to notice iv'e been using it for over 1.5 years. To sound even more redundant to a point I shouldn't be explaining to you, as mentioned, I can use a cellular dongle, or tether, cutting myself off from the network altogether.... but you must have read that too. I can see why you might ignore that tidbit as it shatters your argument to pieces. Cheers.

Also forget the information i was looking for (bandwidth data), as i'm tracking it right now through my rig anyways.

Thanks for.... well nothing really.

Unsure what you're looking for in this thread, you basically answered all the questions you had yourself.
Why are you asking our thoughts about "looking fishy to IT" if you plan on not using their network?

You seem to be pretty convinced that the appropriate thing to do is to steal from your employer, so I'm not sure what you're looking for here.

You're a fucking idiot. End of story. I said multiple times with their permission. I was looking for bandwidth numbers. An idea of traffic in bytes. Simple as fuck. But you seem convinced i'm steeling when i'm not. They will let me run a miner as a space-heater. No problem. God i hate repeating myself. Maybe this time with a few more harsh words it will get through that bullet proof head of yours. Or maybe you will continue to troll harder. Time will tell.


The point of all of this.


Management has final say on anything. I have my personal bosses permission. He doesn't give a fuck. Now that doesn't mean it wont piss off IT. And make waves amongst managers. All i was trying avoid. But no the trolls come out. GO AWAY AND FIND SOMETHING TO DO WITH YOUR TIME.
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April 24, 2016, 09:34:12 AM
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I found the following thread which I believe answers your question.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=87509.0

I realize the thread is a few years old, but it should give you some idea of the sort of traffic you would be sending/receiving.

... would the traffic from the mining generate any weird looking traffic on IT's end? If so is there any way to mask that traffic? ...

I can tell you that your network traffic would look weird. I am not sure what kind of monitoring software your IT department uses, but any good IT department would be able to identify your network traffic with a little research. The only way to mask it would be to encrypt it over a VPN. You would have to verify with the IT department if your potential actions are against the company's AUP, that is if you were even required to sign one.

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April 24, 2016, 01:50:41 PM
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I found the following thread which I believe answers your question.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=87509.0

I realize the thread is a few years old, but it should give you some idea of the sort of traffic you would be sending/receiving.

... would the traffic from the mining generate any weird looking traffic on IT's end? If so is there any way to mask that traffic? ...

I can tell you that your network traffic would look weird. I am not sure what kind of monitoring software your IT department uses, but any good IT department would be able to identify your network traffic with a little research. The only way to mask it would be to encrypt it over a VPN. You would have to verify with the IT department if your potential actions are against the company's AUP, that is if you were even required to sign one.

 No that thread won't help.  Getwork is no longer in use.  I believe all pools use stratum now.  I don't even have a rig running anymore or I would check the bandwidth.

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