Attention i got scammed

[Plastikteil]

What happened:: Scammed for .139 BTC

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=671028

Reference Link: none because pm
Amount Scammed: 0.139
Payment Method: skrill
Proof of Payment:
PM/Chat Logs: He always say : my balls you face keeps trolling he scamed me
Additional Notes: avoid !

[KWH]

What happened:: Scammed for .139 BTC

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=671028

Reference Link: none because pm
Amount Scammed: 0.139
Payment Method: skrill
Proof of Payment:
PM/Chat Logs: He always say : my balls you face keeps trolling he scamed me
Additional Notes: avoid !

You need to post more proof.

[Joel_Jantsen]

lol you got scammed by Kralle .I;m too bored to look for "my balls your face" messages right now .Oh btw Idu is his alt as well.

[suchmoon]

What happened:: Scammed for .139 BTC

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=671028

Reference Link: none because pm
Amount Scammed: 0.139
Payment Method: skrill
Proof of Payment:
PM/Chat Logs: He always say : my balls you face keeps trolling he scamed me
Additional Notes: avoid !

Post screenshots or quotes of those PMs. This is likely a known scammer but more proof is needed.

[Xenophoto]

Oh my god why was I accused as scammer? I can send you all my PMs in my account

Oh great, now I'm removed from my signature campaign because of the DTs putting negative trust on me.

Let me get one thing straight, so someone posted using his/her alt account accusing me for scamming him/her without any proof.

I don't even know who is Kralle and also I do not use PerfectMoney.

Please tell me what proofs do I have to give these DT so they can remove my negative trust.

Geeez. I don't even buy&sell anything here except from the 2 transacts I did which is on my trust list already.

And also, I'm sorry suchmoon but how was I a "likely known scammer" ??

Are you behind this? I don't even buy or sell in this forum. And I am accused by you too?

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Oh my god why was I accused as scammer? I can send you all my PMs in my account

Oh great, now I'm removed from my signature campaign because of the DTs putting negative trust on me.

Let me get one thing straight, so someone posted using his/her alt account accusing me for scamming him/her without any proof.

I don't even know who is Kralle and also I do not use PerfectMoney.

Please tell me what proofs do I have to give these DT so they can remove my negative trust.

Geeez. I don't even buy&sell anything here except from the 2 transacts I did which is on my trust list already.

Hmm, usually DT members wait for actual proof before slapping the coats on.  Perhaps times are changing and we don't need as much proof? 

Is there evidence that this guy is an alt of kralle?

[Xenophoto]

Please look at all my previous posts and tell me do I use PM (edit: Skrill) or do I even buy & sell in this forum. I only do signature campaign and now I was removed because of this Newbie accusing me and these DT putting a red trust on me.

EDIT:

suchmoon please respond to my post. Please tell me how was I a "likely known scammer"?

[hedgy73]

What happened:: Scammed for .139 BTC

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=671028

Reference Link: none because pm
Amount Scammed: 0.139
Payment Method: skrill
Proof of Payment:
PM/Chat Logs: He always say : my balls you face keeps trolling he scamed me
Additional Notes: avoid !

Post proof please.

[stoneage]

there is no proof agaisnt Xenophoto, anyone can claim they have been hacked by xxx user and DT2 users are now tagging the accused user even without proof? isn't it such kind of abuse of power? just my 2 cents

i wonder if someone created a newbie account and accused the admin of scamming him xx BTC, would you guys tag the admin of being a scammer or there is open scam accusation agaisnt them? i think the red mark is too much in this case

@OP chat logs may help you about this accusation

[hedgy73]

What happened:: Scammed for .139 BTC

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=671028

Reference Link: none because pm
Amount Scammed: 0.139
Payment Method: skrill
Proof of Payment:
PM/Chat Logs: He always say : my balls you face keeps trolling he scamed me
Additional Notes: avoid !

Xenophoto has sent me a PM saying he knows nothing about this.

[Xenophoto]

Just to clear this thing, I'm posting my PM logs. I don't mind the privacy.

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@stoneage, just like what they say in movies. "Great power comes with great responsibility." They could've sent me a PM instead, right? Instead of putting 2 reds.

Once I am cleared from this case, I'd want to hear suchmoon's side for saying I'm "a likely known scammer"

[suchmoon]

I have revised my feedback to neutral pending OP's response.

[james.lent]

Well, OP can provide his account details to one of the trusted members here to verify the pm. Guess that would sort things out.

[Xenophoto]

I don't think OP is coming back because that's just an alt. So now I'm forever having this accusation on my trust? My PM logs is not enough to clear me from this case, huh?

Why did you say that I'm a likely known scammer, suchmoon? What are your basis on saying this?

There are no transactions that happened as I've never used Skrill and I don't even know who is Kralle, and who is OP. So I doubt OP can upload any proofs as well

[suchmoon]

I don't think OP is coming back because that's just an alt. So now I'm forever having this accusation on my trust? My PM logs is not enough to clear me from this case, huh?

Why did you say that I'm a likely known scammer, suchmoon? What are your basis on saying this?

There are no transactions that happened as I've never used Skrill and I don't even know who is Kralle, and who is OP. So I doubt OP can upload any proofs as well

I have already revised my feedback and explained it to you in a PM. Not sure what else do you expect of me?

The OP mentions a phrase commonly used by a known scammer Kralle. True, there is a lack of other proof and the OP could have fabricated the whole thing therefore the revision.

Your PM logs wouldn't be enough since you can delete PMs but OP hasn't provided any either so it's a "he said she said" so far.

[KWH]

I don't think OP is coming back because that's just an alt. So now I'm forever having this accusation on my trust? My PM logs is not enough to clear me from this case, huh?

Why did you say that I'm a likely known scammer, suchmoon? What are your basis on saying this?

There are no transactions that happened as I've never used Skrill and I don't even know who is Kralle, and who is OP. So I doubt OP can upload any proofs as well

If the OP does not post proof within 24 hours,(starting from my first request posted here), I will remove the rating as I will believe it to be bogus. When dealing with scammers such as kralle, I believe it is better to move swift to hopefully stop him from claiming another victim from another his many accounts.
Xenophoto, the proof you sent me was no proof at all either as it can be edited at will.

[Xenophoto]

Okay so if PM logs is not enough. What else can I post as proof of my innocence here?

I hold no any other proof as I have never talked to this user and I don't have any buy & sell threads here. I can't show anything to you guys because PM logs is all I have which is not enough. You can try to contact an admin and ask for a complete logs of my PM, and I assure you guys that I didn't edit any part of that logs.

EDIT:

suchmoon, wasn't you the one who told me to upload PM logs? Now you're claiming it to be 'not enough'.

Oh my god suchmoon I just woke up and now I have negative trust for not doing anything

It should be easy to disprove then. Show PM/chat logs, proof that you delivered the product etc.

EDIT:

If Kralle is the scammer, then why am I the one accused here? A lot of questions are appearing in my mind because I don't know anything about this case and I'm the one being accused.

[lissandra]

If anything, try to get a hold of a moderator then...even this situation is bogus.

But usually when someone accuses someone for wrong doing, its usually because that fits the bill.

Why not just give the account details temporarily, with someone escrowing this situation? So the person who has the rep checks and remove if its valid?

[Xenophoto]

To whom can I give my account details temporarily? And also even if I give it to them, they'll still suspect me because according to them, the PMs can be deleted. There are no other proofs in my account except for the PM logs which I already uploaded.

OP is online but isn't replying to this thread nor to my PMs


Obvious false accusation is obvious.

[Quickseller]

I vote that theymos verify the PMs in question. He can check the forum backups to verify original PMs to ensure that quotes were not altered.

Btw the quote posted by the accused really doesn't prove much even if accurate. Nor am I sure what it is even suppose to mean.