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Why are these guys considered allies of the US? They sell us oil? Obama Reveals Why Terror Victims Can’t Sue Saudi Arabiahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZXq9w5CCmwPresident Obama was asked to discuss a bill that passed the Senate committee earlier this year that would allow the family members of individuals who were killed in terrorist attacks sponsored by foreign governments, to then sue those foreign governments. Currently you are not allowed to do that. This bill aims to change that and here is what Barack Obama thinks about it:
And what about this legislation in the congress that allow families to sue the Saudi government and other governments and different circumstances.
Obama: Exactly. I'm opposed because of that second clause in your sentence, and that is, this is not just a bilateral US-saudi issue this is a matter of how generally the United States approaches our interactions with other countries. If we open up the possibility that individuals in the United States can routinely start suing other governments, then we are also opening of the United States to being continually sued by individuals in other countries. And that would be a bad precedent, because we're the largest superpower in the world, and we are everywhere, and we are in people's business all the time. And if we are in a situation where we're suddenly being hauled into various courts, because of the claim that in some individuals been harmed, then that will tie us up and it could harm you US servicemen US diplomats I think a family member of someone who died in 9/11, when they believe that there is good evidence that the Saudi's sponsored it. Now we don't necessarily have access to that evidence because it has been redacted in the 9/11 Commission Report, which we're going to have video for you on that in just a second. But we know from former US Senator Bob Graham was seen the pages as intelligence committee chair the pages that we don't have access to, he told 60 minutes that he believes the Saudi government did help the 9/11 hijackers, and so if that were the case not being able to get any sort of at least legal justice would be incredibly frustrating I would imagine what it does open up the door to a lot of other sorts of lawsuits if if or families and we had we lost three thousand people in 9/11
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April 24, 2016, 07:57:27 PM |
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Why are these guys considered allies of the US? They sell us oil? Obama Reveals Why Terror Victims Can’t Sue Saudi Arabiahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZXq9w5CCmwPresident Obama was asked to discuss a bill that passed the Senate committee earlier this year that would allow the family members of individuals who were killed in terrorist attacks sponsored by foreign governments, to then sue those foreign governments. Currently you are not allowed to do that. This bill aims to change that and here is what Barack Obama thinks about it:
And what about this legislation in the congress that allow families to sue the Saudi government and other governments and different circumstances.
Obama: Exactly. I'm opposed because of that second clause in your sentence, and that is, this is not just a bilateral US-saudi issue this is a matter of how generally the United States approaches our interactions with other countries. If we open up the possibility that individuals in the United States can routinely start suing other governments, then we are also opening of the United States to being continually sued by individuals in other countries. And that would be a bad precedent, because we're the largest superpower in the world, and we are everywhere, and we are in people's business all the time. And if we are in a situation where we're suddenly being hauled into various courts, because of the claim that in some individuals been harmed, then that will tie us up and it could harm you US servicemen US diplomats I think a family member of someone who died in 9/11, when they believe that there is good evidence that the Saudi's sponsored it. Now we don't necessarily have access to that evidence because it has been redacted in the 9/11 Commission Report, which we're going to have video for you on that in just a second. But we know from former US Senator Bob Graham was seen the pages as intelligence committee chair the pages that we don't have access to, he told 60 minutes that he believes the Saudi government did help the 9/11 hijackers, and so if that were the case not being able to get any sort of at least legal justice would be incredibly frustrating I would imagine what it does open up the door to a lot of other sorts of lawsuits if if or families and we had we lost three thousand people in 9/11 Why are these guys considered allies of the US? They sell us oil?https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/senior-leadership/valerie-jarrett
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April 24, 2016, 08:02:08 PM |
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They are not allies of the US, but they have the oil.
the US wants to make a deal with Iran and cut Saudi's off. That made Saudi's a bit angry, since the only thing they got to sell is their oil.
Saudi's soon experience some serious shit.
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April 24, 2016, 08:29:22 PM |
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Big Oil. Big Bank. Big War. Big Drugs. Those are the powers that be in the world and it has been this way for a long time. USA and SA could be called allies but really they are just two entities tied at the hip through the petrodollar. After WW2 the international monetary system was based upon Bretton Woods agreement. Nixon blasted the gold based dollar and effectively ended BW. The Sauds got pissed and held back their oil. The US came up with a deal with them to buy their oil and guarentee protection to the kingdom and their part was to have them sell their oil only in dollars. The rest of the world had to fall in line or get left behind. That system has passed. Now SA holds trillions of dollars many other players are trying to wash their hands of US dollars. It wouldn't surprise me if the neocons and CIA company made a conspiratorial type of deal concerning 911 so they could began trying to establish a permanent presence in Iraq and places like that aka protecting the royal house of Saud. The axis of evil and all of that.
So there you go TS...no we aren't friends...and our leaders and other allies are not 'our' friends either. They are protecting their interests. The problem is they are finally losing their grasp on all of it.
JFK was a coup de etat. Big Oil, Big Bank, Big MIC, and Big Drugs. They are the buggers who took over the driver's seat way back in 63. They are finally about to crash...hopefully Pappy will live to see the BS he is responsible for and I think he does indeed see it. The USA and the rest of the world we have known for so long is in a huge transition right now and I am not so sure the results will be to your average Americans liking. It will be interesting to see how all the patriotism sh!t plays out then. It doesn't look very good from where I sit.
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April 24, 2016, 08:31:09 PM |
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Its good for America to have the Saudis a little on edge and propping up Iran would be beneficial for getting the Saudis off balance. You get these two going to proxy war town all over the middle east and you can now pit them against one another and profit. This seems to be the agenda as most other aspects make little sense when you start breaking it down.
This 9/11 aspect is interesting though and I imagine it will have to be addressed instead of shoved under the rug.
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April 24, 2016, 09:03:08 PM |
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April 25, 2016, 05:09:45 AM |
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I don't think Saudia Arabia helped 9/11 hijackers. But some people of saudia Arabia helped them. They destroy not a building that destroy them.
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April 25, 2016, 07:38:49 AM |
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Saudia Arabia people told that they don,t want to destroy toin-tour. But some people destroy it. But Saudia Arabia don,t help them. ![Embarrassed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif)
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April 25, 2016, 11:10:28 AM |
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i do not think that saudia arabia is helped the 9/11 hijackers. because saudia arabia has nothing to do with these terror attacks. and they have openly said many times that they did not help the hijackers.
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April 25, 2016, 12:04:50 PM |
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some news for you, the jews who run america don't care if a few thousand of your citizens have to get killed to further their interests, your blood doesn't matter to them unless they're drinking it. the saudis are your allies because they help perpetuate a dark age ideology that keeps arabs and muslims backward and stupid and they help destabilise moderate regimes in the region who were making real progress against the global zionism rather than just preaching sermons about how much they hate the west and causing the odd explosion here and there to stay in the news
the neocons in bush's cabinet said they wanted a new pearl harbour and the saudis gave them it
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April 26, 2016, 06:22:37 AM |
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Saudia Arabia is good country. They can,t help 9/11 hijackers. Someone behind that. It will need more Investigation.
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April 26, 2016, 08:48:07 AM |
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some news for you, the jews who run america don't care if a few thousand of your citizens have to get killed to further their interests, your blood doesn't matter to them unless they're drinking it. the saudis are your allies because they help perpetuate a dark age ideology that keeps arabs and muslims backward and stupid and they help destabilise moderate regimes in the region who were making real progress against the global zionism rather than just preaching sermons about how much they hate the west and causing the odd explosion here and there to stay in the news
the neocons in bush's cabinet said they wanted a new pearl harbour and the saudis gave them it
That's incredible to see how some nazis managed to survive WWII ^^
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April 26, 2016, 09:23:36 AM |
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Not s surprise. US Govt needs to answer to their people!! Why they kept is secret from their own people?
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April 26, 2016, 09:27:31 AM |
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Saudia Arabia is good country. lolololol No...
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April 26, 2016, 11:19:08 AM |
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They are not allies of the US, but they have the oil.
the US wants to make a deal with Iran and cut Saudi's off. That made Saudi's a bit angry, since the only thing they got to sell is their oil.
Saudi's soon experience some serious shit.
you are perfectly right .. united states just wants to have their oil resources.. us dont want to make a deal with saudi arabia but it has only one desire to invade middle east for its horrible desires..
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April 26, 2016, 11:27:03 AM |
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They are not allies of the US, but they have the oil.
the US wants to make a deal with Iran and cut Saudi's off. That made Saudi's a bit angry, since the only thing they got to sell is their oil.
Saudi's soon experience some serious shit.
It,s right. But why they helped 9/11? there some incurred people. but not all. I request u to see full document of 9/11. https://youtube.com/watch?v=FLXiH45wi4Y
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April 26, 2016, 01:27:51 PM |
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It was plan of Israel, as no one from that country was present in office that day
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April 26, 2016, 02:24:50 PM |
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-25/look-inside-europes-largest-foreigner-ghetto http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-25/seymour-hersh-saudis-paid-pakistan-hold-bin-laden-prevent-us-interrogationhttp://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-25/1-out-every-5-american-families-nobody-has-jobIf nobody is working in one out of every five U.S. families, then how in the world can the unemployment rate be close to 5 percent as the Obama administration keeps insisting? The truth, of course, is that the U.S. economy is in far worse condition than we are being told. Last week, I discussed the fact that the Federal Reserve has found that 47 percent of all Americans would not be able to come up with $400 for an unexpected visit to the emergency room without borrowing it or selling something. But Barack Obama and his minions never bring up that number. Nor do they ever bring up the fact that 20 percent of all families in America are completely unemployed. The following comes directly from the Bureau of Labor Statistics… http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-25/first-time-us-deploys-two-f-22-raptors-close-russia-deter-aggressionPutin realizes the American Empire is bankrupt, morally, and financially. Whose going to fight for the United States? Obese teenagers? Kids that have lived in their parents basements their entire lives? Grown ups basically act like children and collect star wars figurines. We're a nation of soft boogers without a rudder, we don't trust our leadership and we certainly don't trust our government. The countries in NATO don't even like us, except for our free military, they wouldn't want anything to do with us. " Looks like the EU has a death wish. Russia has circa 5000 tactical nuclear weapons on its western border with Europe. Any US/NATO attack on Russia will result in Europe being incinerated in 30 minutes. Is this what the EU politburo in Brussels wants? Did they learn anything from Europe’s experiences in WWI and WWII? It would appear they did not. ---------- logically country(Usa) with hidden debt 250 trilions usd and despair for future retirees need a world war and to give sanctions they want. They abused eastern european countries when they are admitted to NATO only to take advantage of them. as brussels abuse all now.. Volkswagen pays compensation to Americans and Europeans are *ucked. *uckin Nazis. Do not buy the German brand!
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April 26, 2016, 02:46:33 PM |
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What is a State? What is a foreign State, like Saudi Arabia? States are simply states of mind. Sometimes they are written down, like the U.S. Constitution, and the various Constitutions of the various American States. Why are they written down? So that the people can maintain a "correct" State attitude. States, themselves do nothing. It is always people who do something. Saudi Arabia did nothing regarding 9/11. It was some people who did it. Some of the people may have held in their minds the writings of the State of Saudi Arabia. It was still people that did it. The thing that we do not know about Obama is, is the State of America or the State of Saudi Arabia strongest in his heart? Same said about Bush or anyone else. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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April 26, 2016, 02:58:36 PM |
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I heard and read a lot regarding this theory and still didn't find or see one concrete evidence for such claim. Of course, this conspiracy theory sounds interesting and people like to talk about it but we can't judge whole country based on speculations only. Yes, Bin Laden and some other attackers was from Saudi Arabia and probably some people from this country like terrorist and supporting them but still this is not enough to say that Saudi Arabia is behind this attack. After all, what will be their motivation, their goal for something like this?
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