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February 19, 2013, 09:44:34 PM
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https://www.btcjam.com/listings/1953/
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February 19, 2013, 10:32:31 PM
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"386-page lawsuit against the Republic of Croatia"


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Are you one of these crazy persons with the websites that go through all fonts and font colors at the same time and the blinking and the run on sentences that run on and on and never stop unless there is a stop but there is no stop and instead they still go on even though they should have stopped but nonetheless form isn't a factor to reader perception apparently or it is intended for crazy persons perception and actually works just fine but only for them which is a shame really because things might actually be interesting if only one could understand what the crazy person is talking about but one can't because he writes in a structure totally different to any non-crazy persons expectations and then the guys with the party van stop all the partying and the feel good drugs make everything SHINY?

Are you?

EDIT: Oh, I see you are. Only without the colors: http://www.catoutofthebag.info/1/1/
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February 19, 2013, 11:01:24 PM
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Are you one of these crazy persons with the websites that go through all fonts and font colors at the same time and the blinking and the run on sentences that run on and on and never stop unless there is a stop but there is no stop and instead they still go on even though they should have stopped but nonetheless form isn't a factor to reader perception apparently or it is intended for crazy persons perception and actually works just fine but only for them which is a shame really because things might actually be interesting if only one could understand what the crazy person is talking about but one can't because he writes in a structure totally different to any non-crazy persons expectations and then the guys with the party van stop all the partying and the feel good drugs make everything SHINY?

Some people do not compose 100+-word mostly-meaningless sentences like yourself. The lawsuit has 190 pages + an 8-page form + 188 pages of documents = 386 pages, total, and is not gibberish like your sentence above, but rather:

1. Has a summary.
2. Lists each offense and then quotes relevant laws, the Constitution, and, finally the Convention.
3. Lists events (i.e. time-wise description of the violations).
4. Lists and quotes scientific findings from several international teams.
5. Includes some on-the-scene photographs.

I'd say that the one on the wacko side is actually you, considering that you have composed a 100+-word mostly-meaningless sentence and consider a page with black letters on white background to be a shiny page with bright colours. May I ask if you see some colours on your screen while looking at the page? Btw. neither black nor white are colours, but rather the absence or presence of all wavelengths of visible light.
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February 19, 2013, 11:14:47 PM
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There is so much injustice in the world. I am happy to give you some bitcoins to help you out, post an address here.
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February 19, 2013, 11:45:18 PM
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There is so much injustice in the world. I am happy to give you some bitcoins to help you out, post an address here.

+1 please do post your address here, allot of bitcoiners just give out coins to nice people.


I just happened to read most of the wall text from http://www.catoutofthebag.info/1/1/ and I must say that you could be a successful writer sir. I find the text quite good and with enough paragraphs you get involved with the story and identify with the main character. Have you written any books nlovric?

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February 19, 2013, 11:49:06 PM
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Can you verify that you are the operator of http://www.catoutofthebag.info?

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February 20, 2013, 11:09:57 AM
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Can you verify that you are the operator of http://www.catoutofthebag.info?
Yes, I have verified it with PGP keys.
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February 20, 2013, 07:12:39 PM
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I am glad that there may be some nice people in the world after all. My secure station is down – see https://www.btcjam.com/listings/1964/ – so I don't want to compromise my 2012-04-11 OpenPGP secret key, bit I've inserted the 512-bit Secure Hash Algorithm version 2 (SHA-2-512) cryptographic hash of the message "My username at Bitcointalk is "nlovric"", without the outer double quotes – 2df6a106684bb37882e543369f7462e997c5563a57ff43dda68f753e6f72fd8fc7e3b73f03e8d32 cc2cb0581320643e91fc712cf39b662d808249aef885dad4f – at the end of the hypertext markup of http://www.catoutofthebag.info/ for unreliable confirmation. I will remove the comment in a few weeks.

However, there are some OpenPGP-signed messages of mine which already contain my current, insecure Bitcoin address, for instance this OpenPGP-signed message which I signed with my 2012-04-11 OpenPGP secret key sent to TradeFortress just prior to my laptop dying – I ended up trading the Paysafecards at one site, but I've already sent them where they were destined:

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA512

Hello!


I need a loan of 10 BTC - or as many as you have if less than 10 - until no sooner than 2013-01-16 00:00:00 UTC and no later than 2013-04-16 00:00:00 UTC.

Alternatively, I have 5 100 HRK Paysafecard Classic PINs right now which can presently be used for 71 on-line games and a few physical shops. Their value is ~6.6 BTC. I'll give them to you for 5 BTC and then I need a loan of only 5 BTC.

I have to warn you that my problem is that all my bank accounts have been blocked by the Croatian government due to filing an international lawsuit against it in front of the European Court of Human Rights on charges including multiple violations of Article 3 (Prohibition of torture) and due to publishing some information at http://www.catoutofthebag.info/, so I may have to pay back the loan in Paysafecard Classic PINs. Even my mail at the post office is under surveillance - I am able to receive mail only at my post box in the Swiss Confederation (declared neutrality in 1812), so Western Union or similar are not a good idea. My PayPal transactions - on my verified PayPal business account - have been reversed since attempting to publish Cat out of the Bag at www.catoutofthebag.org, so I can't use PayPal, either, anymore.

Furthermore, you should be aware that I was beaten by government operatives recently (http://www.catoutofthebag.info/temporary/clinicfortraumatologycasehistory/20121029/1.png and http://www.catoutofthebag.info/temporary/clinicfortraumatologycasehistory/20121029/2.png), so there is a risk - regarding a possible loan - that they might whack me next time. To resolve this possible problem, I can offer a few domains - exbi.{info|org}, pebi.org, specialmobile.info, specialcell.org, configureipv6.{com|mobi|net|org}, ipv6link.{biz|info|mobi|net|org}, ipv6setup.{biz|mobi|org}, and/or p2pbackup.{mobi|org} - as a deposit through Escrow - http://www.escrow.com/.


Bitcoin seems like an excellent currency to use under a government blockade, but they're fucking impossible to get. I was already planning to use them as one of the payment options for the systems I'm developing, but now I've been forced to switch completely to physical and electronic cash immediately.


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Primary e-mail addresses:

• Internet: neven@lovric.net.
• Internet and Tor: nlovric@tormail.net.


Financial addresses:

• Bitcoin: 15eHztzh2YRFua3cBLWH8g87xm6tQ83FR3.


2012-04-11 OpenPGP public key:

• Internet: http://www.lovric.net/download/openpgppublickey/nlovric/2012-04-11.asc.
• Tor: http://li4znmlobepdaq4n.onion/download/openpgppublickey/nlovric/2012-04-11.asc.

• 7777 B191 5933 ACF1 B998  0101 70B9 7690 C7F8 DD31.


Latest OpenPGP public key:

• Internet: http://www.lovric.net/download/openpgppublickey/nlovric/latest.asc.
• Tor: http://li4znmlobepdaq4n.onion//download/openpgppublickey/nlovric/latest.asc.

• May be the 2012-04-11 key. Must be signed with the 2012-04-11 key.
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If you're interested in sending me some Bitcoins, how about you give me an Islamic banking loan? As I understand it, you give me a loan at no interest, and I return the loan and give you a fair share of the profit from whatever I earn supported by the loan. I have some inventive and/or novel projects, including:

• SecuriNet (securi.net) – a multizoned, non-escrow Elliptic-Curve-Cryptography-(ECC)-based security network and e-mail, instant messaging, secure telephony etc. communications system which will, of course, accept Bitcoin – and, unfortunately, only Bitcoin as several states seem to be against me right now, even though Bitcoin was suppose to be one of the payment options – probably worth a few million Euros (EUR).

• An invention in the field of cryptography made while analyzing possible attack vectors on SecuriNet. The invention needs to be patented and it is possibly worth a few million Euros (EUR). Use will be free for non-commercial use with Free and Open Source Software (FOSS) Linux, Berkley Systems Design (BSD), GNU/Hurd, and similar distributions.

• Securix – a highest-feasible-security (highly-encrypted storage, Mandatory Access Control (MAC), quantum-encrypted communications etc.) Linux-based operating system of undetermined value.

• [BUSINESS SECRET] (SES) – classified storage encryption technology possibly worth a few hundred thousand Euros (EUR).

• InsecuriNet (insecuri.net) – a full-disclosure community of undetermined value focusing on computer system exploitation, electronic and radio reconnaissance, surveillance, and tracking (TEMPEST, rise time signatures etc.).

• Insecurix – an automated computer system, computer network, and mobile telephony – remote exploitation, reconnaissance – including TEMPEST capabilities, surveillance (A5/1 and A5/3 decryption), warfare Linux-based operating system. Theoretically, an independent multiple primary strikes system – can you say "Zap! goes the power grid, telecommunications etc."? – so the advanced features probably won't be available to any state except like the Swiss Confederation and Nepal who aren't going to attack anyone, anyway.

• Anticipher (anticipher.*) – derived from my Single Crack manually-distributed brute-force password cracker which I developed in 1998; will break password-encrypted dm-crypt, TrueCrypt, PGP Desktop etc. storage containers using several advanced approaches – including the one used in Single Crack, rivaling the capabilities of the National Security Agency (NSA), Federalnaya Sluzhba Okhrany (FSO), and similar.

• Data Flow Masking (DFM) – BUSINESS SECRET generally-applicable technology derived from my 1998 Bouncer Protocol considerations. The United States of Americas' (USAs') Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) would probably classify such technology as TOP SECRET.

• The Bouncer Protocol and the Bouncer network – the merge of my 1998 Bouncer Protocol considerations in combination with some Second-Generation Onion Routing techniques enhanced further. Unlike Onion Routing, the Bouncer Protocol was being designed for direct-relay path stealth communications instead of masking communications by obscuring traffic using a large number of encrypted relay channels. The Bouncer Protocol was designed for a single-man or single-group/unit exploited-system stealth reentry – Visible Forward Connections – and Blind Reverse Connections to facilitate reporting from deployed surveillance systems back to headquarters through hard-to-detect, difficult-to-trace stealth connections.

• [BUSINESS SECRET] – visionary Extinction-Level-Event-(ELE)-resistant fast and reliable global storage system possibly worth a few hundred million Euros (EUR).

• [BUSINESS SECRET] – visionary, futuristic networking project; value: who knows plus progress of the human race.

• [BUSINESS SECRET] – a new type of backup worth a few dozen thousand Euros (EUR).

• Bit the Coin (bitthecoin.{biz,com,info,net,org}) – "an act of domestic terrorism" according to the United States of Americas' (USAs') Federal Bureau of Investigations' (FBIs') statements thus far regarding Bitcoin; further details BUSINESS SECRET; value unimportant – purpose is increasing Bitcoin tradeability, usability, and ensuring state-resistant Bitcoin trade and usage.

• [BUSINESS SECRET] – a libertarian networking project that should change the world.

• [BUSINESS SECRET] – a new type of application of libertarianism of possible significant impact – might be declared an act of international terrorism.

• Space, Sea, Air, Land Linux (SSeALL) – see https://www.bitmit.net/item/16415/; value undetermined.

• [BUSINESS SECRET] – a novel, libertarian message board system also incorporating my previous libertarianism-unrelated message board considerations; Free and Open Source Software (FOSS).
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February 20, 2013, 07:29:55 PM
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You can pay SwissPost Box bills with a Swiss postal payment slip.
All you need is the reference number and amount.
You can call them and ask them such details and I will gladly make the payment for you in exchange for bitcoins.

Are you asking for 10BTC as that is the amount for a prepaid card or are you actually saying you have nearly $300 in fees with Swiss Post Box? As it is paid monthly, that sounds like an awfully large amount.

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February 20, 2013, 07:35:48 PM
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I owe about 53 CHF. Can you offer an item such as https://www.bitmit.net/item/13258/ for the Swiss Confederation?
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February 20, 2013, 08:17:15 PM
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I can do this:
http://bitcoinmarket.ch/sell-swiss-bitcoins/

And you fill in the details accordingly, choose swiss post account and fill in the details exactly as you are told by Swiss Post Box.
Or you can just PM me here.
I have some slips myself, but it is best that you provide the information in full.
I cannot guarantee the rate but will do at cost without charging you anything, so put a bit more and include your bitcoin address for refunds.
I have been away from Switzerland for a few months now and will be back this coming Tuesday Feb 26 late at night.
So I can offer to do this Wednesday.
If you provide me with this info and payment at 1JRQqiuNVREeLM6Nm91hx9rXdptWg6F6Jk
I will provide you with a scan/pic of the payment with a beautiful postal stamp.

let me know

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February 20, 2013, 09:10:53 PM
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Ok, I'll contact you when I have enough Bitcoins.

I'd like to offer the following to you: https://www.bitmit.net/item/13604/ . If you order by 2013-02-20 22:00:00 UTC, I will send it today. No one from the Swiss Confederation has order one yet, anyway, so a measurement and a measured shipment for my list might be useful to me.
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February 20, 2013, 09:19:27 PM
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have I missed something:
you are asking for a loan from people and you are actually selling a 1K CHF note by unregistered mail
https://www.bitmit.net/en/item/14225-1000-swiss-francs-chf-bill-bank-note

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February 20, 2013, 09:30:25 PM
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you are asking for a loan from people and you are actually selling a 1K CHF note by unregistered mail

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Possible shipping delay

If an item – excluding bank wire transfers, Skrill transfers, and fiat currency cash deliveries via DHL Express – is sold outside escrow, it means that I might first have to convert the Bitcoins to Croatian kunas (HRK) in cash and then obtain the item using it. This may take up to 10 days.

The price of each financial item is 104% of what you'll be delivered plus handling and shipping costs. The stealth transfer channel of money to my location costs some percentage and I profit 1+% on the volume of each order plus I charge ~10.00 Croatian kunas (HRK) for handling.

Theoretically, I can deliver several thousand Swiss francs (CHF) per week.

What I'm actually doing is testing various transfer systems for my Bit the Coin (as in past perfect of "to bite"; bitthecoin.{biz,com,info,net,org}) project. It will be a cash, only, for cash, only exchange site utilizing exclusively a sovereign Transport Layer Security (TLS) certificate and using exclusively Transport Layer Security (TLS) 1.1+ with a 571-bit Elliptic Curve Duffie-Hellman (ECDH) key exchange and encrypted using 256-bit Camellia in Cipher-Block Chaining (CBC) mode. It will also be accessible as a Tor hidden service. The marketplace will be resistant to state blockades.
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February 20, 2013, 09:45:34 PM
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I need to create a crazy rumbling so people will give me bitcoins LMAO
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February 20, 2013, 10:00:09 PM
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Bitcoin: FBI Admits To Engaging In Infiltration, Disruption and Dismantling of Competing Currencies

Quote from: 'Libertarian News'
In a March 18, 2011 press release regarding the Liberty Dollar case, the FBI admitted to waging a secret war against any private currency system that competes against the US Dollar.  In the press release, the FBI equates the use of sound money to an act of domestic terrorism.  The FBI states that it uses methods of infiltration and disruption against private citizens engaged in the use of voluntary currencies.

The FBI writes:

“Attempts to undermine the legitimate currency of this country [ie. unconstitutional Federal Reserve notes] are simply a unique form of domestic terrorism,” U.S. Attorney Tompkins said in announcing the verdict. “While these forms of anti-government activities do not involve violence [ie. they are voluntary systems with no victim], they are every bit as insidious and represent a clear and present danger to the economic stability of this country [ie. their widespread adoption may collapse the corrupt banking system],” she added. “We are determined to meet these threats through infiltration, disruption, and dismantling of organizations which seek to challenge the legitimacy of our democratic form of government.” [ie. we will engage in acts of domestic terrorism to prevent the voluntary trade of private property.]

I think this open admission by the FBI that it engages in acts of domestic terrorism against private currency systems bears a particular importance for users of the Bitcoin monetary system.  If we look at the history of Bitcoin since it gained notoriety, we see a slew of hacking attacks against major exchanges that have indeed disrupted and undermined the currency system.

Of course, no matter what the FBI does, short of breaking the underlying Bitcoin encryption (which is impossible even for them), the monetary system will continue to function.   However, this message should put users of the monetary system on notice.

Any major exchange or retailer that comes online in the future should be treated as either a potential victim of FBI hacking attacks or as an FBI run operation that will be used to disrupt the Bitcoin market at some future date.   This means that people should be especially leery of using new exchanges or wallet sites without having an extremely thorough knowledge of who is involved and how their systems are administered.

Given the above admission by the FBI that it engages in acts of domestic terrorism to disrupt the trade of private property, we should expect any Bitcoin exchange or major retailer to have security systems strong enough to withstand a domestic terrorist attack by a US Federal agency.   If they don’t, it is highly likely that they will suffer a crippling domestic terrorist attack perpetrated by our own government.

For end users, this means you should not entrust the bulk of your coins to anyone but yourself.  You should operate your own Bitcoin client and keep any major holdings of coins off line in a file that is replicated and backed up on an encrypted drive.  All exchanges, wallet sites, and retail outlets should be presumed to be compromised.

That is not to say people should stop using the currency… far from it.  It is simply a warning that people should note when doing business in Bitcoins.   The reality is that the Federal government is waging a war of infiltration and disruption against systems like Bitcoin, so we should expect to see more highly sophisticated attacks like the one which was perpetrated against Mt. Gox recently.
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February 20, 2013, 10:12:38 PM
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Furthermore, the United States of Americas' (USAs') National Security Agency (NSA) possesses enough computing power to outrun the legitimate chain of cryptographic hashes of Bitcoin transactions – the Bitcoin blockchain. It is my opinion that – at any point in time – the Bitcoin blockchain can be taken over by the government of the United States of America (USA) should the President of the United States of America (USA) or the Director of Central Intelligence direct the National Security Agency (NSA) to divert computing power from Communications Intelligence (COMINT) and/or Signals Intelligence (SIGINT) programs to taking over the Bitcoin blockchain. However, issuing such a directive would place the United States of America (USA) in a position in which they would be unable to detect an impending primary strike against its' key infrastructure. The present strike scenario of e.g. the Russian Federation no longer includes nuclear weapons as the means of primary strike in an exchange initiated by the Russian Federation.
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