Moloch (OP)
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April 27, 2016, 03:52:21 AM |
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I decided the morality of the ten commandments could be boiled down into, "Do not harm or deceive anyone"... But, since everyone enjoys lists of 10, I decided to go a bit further and fill it out with some substance:
1. Do not harm or deceive anyone 2. Help those less fortunate 3. Identify and improve your own flaws and weaknesses 4. Be observant and considerate 5. Do not be greedy; never take more than you need 6. Think critically before making important decisions 7. Give people the benefit of the doubt; walk a mile in the other person's shoes 8. Lead by example 9. Be kinder to others than they are to you 10. Make the world a better place for our children
It may not be perfect, but I would argue that it is a better list than the bible
What do you think?
Can you come up with a better list, or improve upon what I've got going here?
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April 27, 2016, 05:42:40 AM |
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I think u need to start a new cult or something and have your own millions of followers to proclaim and follow it.
And u cant. Those were created during the early days where there is really chaos moses had no idea of how to control them
Nowadays those commandments was the basis on some existing laws like killing is a sin. So if u want to proclaim a new law, be a senate.
Many people doesnt actually believe in god and so is the bible but they know there limits and only fools and desparated will disobey the commandments.
feel free to comment or discuss.
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simplelisten
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April 27, 2016, 05:51:10 AM Last edit: August 05, 2016, 07:03:01 AM by simplelisten |
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I decided the morality of the ten commandments could be boiled down into, "Do not harm or deceive anyone"... But, since everyone enjoys lists of 10, I decided to go a bit further and fill it out with some substance:
1. Do not harm or deceive anyone 2. Help those less fortunate 3. Identify and improve your own flaws and weaknesses 4. Be observant and considerate 5. Do not be greedy; never take more than you need 6. Think critically before making important decisions 7. Give people the benefit of the doubt; walk a mile in the other person's shoes 8. Lead by example 9. Be kinder to others than they are to you 10. Make the world a better place for our children
It may not be perfect, but I would argue that it is a better list than the bible
What do you think?
Can you come up with a better list, or improve upon what I've got going here?
I think its too empathic and sympathetic. I would say it needs improvement.
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April 27, 2016, 06:46:47 AM |
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I decided the morality of the ten commandments could be boiled down into, "Do not harm or deceive anyone"... But, since everyone enjoys lists of 10, I decided to go a bit further and fill it out with some substance:
1. Do not harm or deceive anyone 2. Help those less fortunate 3. Identify and improve your own flaws and weaknesses 4. Be observant and considerate 5. Do not be greedy; never take more than you need 6. Think critically before making important decisions 7. Give people the benefit of the doubt; walk a mile in the other person's shoes 8. Lead by example 9. Be kinder to others than they are to you 10. Make the world a better place for our children
It may not be perfect, but I would argue that it is a better list than the bible
What do you think?
Can you come up with a better list, or improve upon what I've got going here?
I think its too empathic and sympathic. I would say it needs improvement. Hmmm i think its ok but of it is objectival and doesnt really say an exact point.
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April 27, 2016, 04:36:17 PM |
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All of this would come up to only 2 commandments.
1. Love the Lord thy God with all thy soul,mind and all thy heart. 2. Love your neighbor as you love yourself. If you have to obey even these two you will probably follow all those commandments.
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Moloch (OP)
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April 27, 2016, 05:45:56 PM |
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I think its too empathic and sympathic. I would say it needs improvement.
How so? Could you be more specific? Which ones do you like, or dislike... and what would you replace them with?
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April 27, 2016, 08:12:16 PM |
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I decided the morality of the ten commandments could be boiled down into, "Do not harm or deceive anyone"... But, since everyone enjoys lists of 10, I decided to go a bit further and fill it out with some substance:
1. Do not harm or deceive anyone 2. Help those less fortunate 3. Identify and improve your own flaws and weaknesses 4. Be observant and considerate 5. Do not be greedy; never take more than you need 6. Think critically before making important decisions 7. Give people the benefit of the doubt; walk a mile in the other person's shoes 8. Lead by example 9. Be kinder to others than they are to you 10. Make the world a better place for our children
It may not be perfect, but I would argue that it is a better list than the bible
What do you think?
Can you come up with a better list, or improve upon what I've got going here?
Most of those come directly from the Bible. The only change you made is compiling them into one list (there are commandments other than the 10 commandments) and removed any reference to God as well as non-secular (ie. love the Lord your God) commandments.
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Moloch (OP)
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April 27, 2016, 08:15:03 PM |
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I decided the morality of the ten commandments could be boiled down into, "Do not harm or deceive anyone"... But, since everyone enjoys lists of 10, I decided to go a bit further and fill it out with some substance:
1. Do not harm or deceive anyone 2. Help those less fortunate 3. Identify and improve your own flaws and weaknesses 4. Be observant and considerate 5. Do not be greedy; never take more than you need 6. Think critically before making important decisions 7. Give people the benefit of the doubt; walk a mile in the other person's shoes 8. Lead by example 9. Be kinder to others than they are to you 10. Make the world a better place for our children
It may not be perfect, but I would argue that it is a better list than the bible
What do you think?
Can you come up with a better list, or improve upon what I've got going here?
Most of those come directly from the Bible. The only change you made is compiling them into one list (there are commandments other than the 10 commandments) and removed any reference to God as well as non-secular (ie. love the Lord your God) commandments. The bible says a lot of things, both good and bad... I certainly did not get my list from the bible... the bible got its list from secular society... the bible is clearly a compilation of stories that were already popular in the Mediterranean region, long before anyone compiled them into a single book... The source of the wisdom is not important... I'm not going to claim there is nothing good in the bible, but there is way too much evil in the bible to call it a good book... it's not a good book at all, and most definitely not written by a god... a child could do better... watch me
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April 27, 2016, 08:28:13 PM |
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For me there are only two principals that matter
1) Treat others as you would have then treat you. 2) Before doing anything, consider if every other person on the planet did the same thing what would the impact be.
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Moloch (OP)
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April 27, 2016, 08:34:18 PM Last edit: April 27, 2016, 09:26:31 PM by Moloch |
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For me there are only two principals that matter
1) Treat others as you would have then treat you. 2) Before doing anything, consider if every other person on the planet did the same thing what would the impact be.
The first is already written everywhere as the golden rule, all religions have the golden rule The second one is simply Kant's test for UniversalizabilityGood stuff, but I prefer a slightly different twist - an Aboriginal moral philosophy... IIRC, it goes something like this: Do my actions reflect the greatest good for the greatest number of people?I prefer this because it is a more positive outlook... you are seeking to do good, rather than simply prevent harm (sometimes there is a dichotomy)
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April 27, 2016, 09:14:17 PM |
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Outgrow our fears and dogma or become their compost
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1. Care for the earth and it will take care of us 2. To take to much without putting or giving back is death for everything else 3. The law shall be made by the human population once these laws are made nobody is above these laws not even kings and queens. 4. Laws can be changed every 25 years to fit with the times but must be made by the human population once set nobody is above the law not even kings and queens.. 5.Break the law and the police shall uphold these laws against anybody who breaks these laws 6.Public service workers who abuse his or her power onto others shall feel the law 2 times worse 7.It's a child's right to be cared for and educated till that child becomes an adult.. 8.Animals must be treated with respect. Only kill them if there is a need to kill them with the least pain possible .. 9.Taxes must be paid by the most fortunate to help the poor and keep a good life system going.. 10.Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.. BREAK THESE RULES AND YOU WILL BURN FOREVER ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) .. A JOKE ..YOU GO TO JAIL ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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April 28, 2016, 01:02:27 AM |
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I decided the morality of the ten commandments could be boiled down into, "Do not harm or deceive anyone"... But, since everyone enjoys lists of 10, I decided to go a bit further and fill it out with some substance:
1. Do not harm or deceive anyone 2. Help those less fortunate 3. Identify and improve your own flaws and weaknesses 4. Be observant and considerate 5. Do not be greedy; never take more than you need 6. Think critically before making important decisions 7. Give people the benefit of the doubt; walk a mile in the other person's shoes 8. Lead by example 9. Be kinder to others than they are to you 10. Make the world a better place for our children
It may not be perfect, but I would argue that it is a better list than the bible
What do you think?
Can you come up with a better list, or improve upon what I've got going here?
You have a nice list of set of rules and regulations , but if you are saying that your list if better than the bible commandments then I definitely disagree with you.
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Moloch (OP)
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April 28, 2016, 01:29:01 AM |
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I decided the morality of the ten commandments could be boiled down into, "Do not harm or deceive anyone"... But, since everyone enjoys lists of 10, I decided to go a bit further and fill it out with some substance:
1. Do not harm or deceive anyone 2. Help those less fortunate 3. Identify and improve your own flaws and weaknesses 4. Be observant and considerate 5. Do not be greedy; never take more than you need 6. Think critically before making important decisions 7. Give people the benefit of the doubt; walk a mile in the other person's shoes 8. Lead by example 9. Be kinder to others than they are to you 10. Make the world a better place for our children
It may not be perfect, but I would argue that it is a better list than the bible
What do you think?
Can you come up with a better list, or improve upon what I've got going here?
You have a nice list of set of rules and regulations , but if you are saying that your list if better than the bible commandments then I definitely disagree with you. How do you figure? You prefer commandments like, "Don't worship other Gods", "Remember the sabbath and keep it holy", "Honor your father and mother", "Do not covet your neighbor's ass"? At least I don't include thought-crimes in my list... Coveting is natural, it is not worthy of death... making an idol is not worthy of death... using gods name in vein, is not worthy of death... sorry, God fucked up... I can do better
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Moloch (OP)
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April 28, 2016, 01:35:30 AM |
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1. Care for the earth and it will take care of us 2. To take to much without putting or giving back is death for everything else 3. The law shall be made by the human population once these laws are made nobody is above these laws not even kings and queens. 4. Laws can be changed every 25 years to fit with the times but must be made by the human population once set nobody is above the law not even kings and queens.. 5.Break the law and the police shall uphold these laws against anybody who breaks these laws 6.Public service workers who abuse his or her power onto others shall feel the law 2 times worse 7.It's a child's right to be cared for and educated till that child becomes an adult.. 8.Animals must be treated with respect. Only kill them if there is a need to kill them with the least pain possible .. 9.Taxes must be paid by the most fortunate to help the poor and keep a good life system going.. 10.Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.. BREAK THESE RULES AND YOU WILL BURN FOREVER ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) .. A JOKE ..YOU GO TO JAIL ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Not bad, even if 3&4 are basically the same thing... (don't worry, God repeated himself with "do not covet" split into 2 commandments too)
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April 28, 2016, 02:14:06 AM |
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I decided the morality of the ten commandments could be boiled down into, "Do not harm or deceive anyone"... But, since everyone enjoys lists of 10, I decided to go a bit further and fill it out with some substance:
1. Do not harm or deceive anyone 2. Help those less fortunate 3. Identify and improve your own flaws and weaknesses 4. Be observant and considerate 5. Do not be greedy; never take more than you need 6. Think critically before making important decisions 7. Give people the benefit of the doubt; walk a mile in the other person's shoes 8. Lead by example 9. Be kinder to others than they are to you 10. Make the world a better place for our children
It may not be perfect, but I would argue that it is a better list than the bible
What do you think?
Can you come up with a better list, or improve upon what I've got going here?
You have a nice list of set of rules and regulations , but if you are saying that your list if better than the bible commandments then I definitely disagree with you. How do you figure? You prefer commandments like, "Don't worship other Gods", "Remember the sabbath and keep it holy", "Honor your father and mother", "Do not covet your neighbor's ass"? At least I don't include thought-crimes in my list... Coveting is natural, it is not worthy of death... making an idol is not worthy of death... using gods name in vein, is not worthy of death... sorry, God fucked up... I can do better If you are depending on what you believe then so be it. But there is also a commandment that say, Tempt not the Lord thy God and don't use His name in vain.
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Moloch (OP)
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April 28, 2016, 08:28:10 AM |
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I decided the morality of the ten commandments could be boiled down into, "Do not harm or deceive anyone"... But, since everyone enjoys lists of 10, I decided to go a bit further and fill it out with some substance:
1. Do not harm or deceive anyone 2. Help those less fortunate 3. Identify and improve your own flaws and weaknesses 4. Be observant and considerate 5. Do not be greedy; never take more than you need 6. Think critically before making important decisions 7. Give people the benefit of the doubt; walk a mile in the other person's shoes 8. Lead by example 9. Be kinder to others than they are to you 10. Make the world a better place for our children
It may not be perfect, but I would argue that it is a better list than the bible
What do you think?
Can you come up with a better list, or improve upon what I've got going here?
You have a nice list of set of rules and regulations , but if you are saying that your list if better than the bible commandments then I definitely disagree with you. How do you figure? You prefer commandments like, "Don't worship other Gods", "Remember the sabbath and keep it holy", "Honor your father and mother", "Do not covet your neighbor's ass"? At least I don't include thought-crimes in my list... Coveting is natural, it is not worthy of death... making an idol is not worthy of death... using gods name in vein, is not worthy of death... sorry, God fucked up... I can do better If you are depending on what you believe then so be it. But there is also a commandment that say, Tempt not the Lord thy God and don't use His name in vain. Which is sort of my point... the biblical commandments are dumb... the first 3-4 are about God being narcissistic (3 or 4 depending on whether you are a catholic or protestant) The protestants and catholics can not even agree on which 10 are the real ones... And, on top of that... neither of them believe in the 10 which were written by God (the first tablets, which Moses destroyed, before re-writing them himself) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fskyblueguy.files.wordpress.com%2F2013%2F04%2Froman-catholic-church-changed-the-ten-commandments.jpg&t=665&c=yQkOq36Fwv0nnA)
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April 28, 2016, 08:47:04 AM |
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I like the Pastafarian I rather you didn'ts:
1. I'd Really Rather You Didn't Act Like A Sanctimonious Holier-Than-Thou Ass When Describing My Noodly Goodness. If Some People Don't Believe In Me, That's Okay. Really, I'm Not That Vain. Besides, This Isn't About Them So Don't Change The Subject. 2. I'd Really Rather You Didn't Use My Existence As A Means To Oppress, Subjugate, Punish, Eviscerate, And/Or, You Know, Be Mean To Others. I Don't Require Sacrifices, And Purity Is For Drinking Water, Not People. 3. I'd Really Rather You Didn't Judge People For The Way They Look, Or How They Dress, Or The Way They Talk, Or, Well, Just Play Nice, Okay? Oh, And Get This Through You Thick Heads: Woman=Person, Man=Person. Samey-Samey. One is Not Better Than The Other, Unless We're Talking About Fashion And I'm Sorry, But I Gave That To Women And Some Guys Who Know The Difference Between Teal And Fuchsia. 4. I'd Really Rather You Didn't Indulge In Conduct That Offends Yourself, Or Your Willing, Consenting Partner Of Legal Age AND Mental Maturity. As For Anyone Who Might Object, I Think The Expression Is Go F*** Yourself, Unless They Find That Offensive In Which Case They Can Turn Off The TV For Once And Go For A Walk For A Change. 5. I'd Really Rather You Didn't Challenge The Bigoted, Misogynist, Hateful Ideas Of Others On An Empty Stomach. Eat, Then Go After The B*******. 6. I'd Really Rather You Didn't Build multi million-Dollar Churches/Temples/Mosques/ Shrines To My Noodly Goodness When The Money Could Be Better Spent (Take Your Pick): A. Ending Poverty B. Curing Diseases C. Living In Peace, Loving With Passion, And Lowering The Cost Of Cable. I Might Be A Complex Carbohydrate Omniscient Being, But I Enjoy The Simple Things In Life. I Ought To Know. I AM The Creator. 7. I'd Really Rather You Didn't Go around Telling People I Talk To you. You're Not That Interesting. Get Over Yourself. And I Told You To Love Your Fellow Man, Can't You Take A Hint? 8. I'd Really Rather You Didn't Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You If You Are Into, Um, Stuff That Uses Alot Of Leather/Lubrication/Las Vegas. If The Other Person Is Into It However (Pursuant To #4), Then Have At It, Take Pictures, And For The Love Of Mike, Wear A CONDOM! Honestly It's A Piece Of Rubber, If I Didn't Want It To Feel Good When You Did It I Would Have Added Spikes, Or Something.
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April 30, 2016, 06:45:12 AM |
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I decided the morality of the ten commandments could be boiled down into, "Do not harm or deceive anyone"... But, since everyone enjoys lists of 10, I decided to go a bit further and fill it out with some substance:
1. Do not harm or deceive anyone 2. Help those less fortunate 3. Identify and improve your own flaws and weaknesses 4. Be observant and considerate 5. Do not be greedy; never take more than you need 6. Think critically before making important decisions 7. Give people the benefit of the doubt; walk a mile in the other person's shoes 8. Lead by example 9. Be kinder to others than they are to you 10. Make the world a better place for our children
It may not be perfect, but I would argue that it is a better list than the bible
What do you think?
Can you come up with a better list, or improve upon what I've got going here?
I think it should be more straight to the point too generalizing. It's like all would fall to the same category as love your neighbor and do not covet thy neighbors wife, metaphorically the wife is belonging.
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April 30, 2016, 06:59:57 AM |
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I decided the morality of the ten commandments could be boiled down into, "Do not harm or deceive anyone"... But, since everyone enjoys lists of 10, I decided to go a bit further and fill it out with some substance:
1. Do not harm or deceive anyone 2. Help those less fortunate 3. Identify and improve your own flaws and weaknesses 4. Be observant and considerate 5. Do not be greedy; never take more than you need 6. Think critically before making important decisions 7. Give people the benefit of the doubt; walk a mile in the other person's shoes 8. Lead by example 9. Be kinder to others than they are to you 10. Make the world a better place for our children
It may not be perfect, but I would argue that it is a better list than the bible
What do you think?
Can you come up with a better list, or improve upon what I've got going here?
You have a nice list of set of rules and regulations , but if you are saying that your list if better than the bible commandments then I definitely disagree with you. How do you figure? You prefer commandments like, "Don't worship other Gods", "Remember the sabbath and keep it holy", "Honor your father and mother", "Do not covet your neighbor's ass"? At least I don't include thought-crimes in my list... Coveting is natural, it is not worthy of death... making an idol is not worthy of death... using gods name in vein, is not worthy of death... sorry, God fucked up... I can do better If you are depending on what you believe then so be it. But there is also a commandment that say, Tempt not the Lord thy God and don't use His name in vain. Which is sort of my point... the biblical commandments are dumb... the first 3-4 are about God being narcissistic (3 or 4 depending on whether you are a catholic or protestant) The protestants and catholics can not even agree on which 10 are the real ones... And, on top of that... neither of them believe in the 10 which were written by God (the first tablets, which Moses destroyed, before re-writing them himself) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fskyblueguy.files.wordpress.com%2F2013%2F04%2Froman-catholic-church-changed-the-ten-commandments.jpg&t=665&c=yQkOq36Fwv0nnA) Obviously catholics ten commandments is deceiving billions of people around the world. Removing the original commandment that , we must not have other gods before Him. And spliting bible commandment #10 into catholic commandments #9-10
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