What is safe POW or POS?

[BigUpGiddyup]

pos is trash, there is not a single pos coin that can give you a decent value just by staking, because the mint return is always so low it's not worth it

this because the whole pos thing would otherwise be a dump fest, that's way every pos coin out there has a bad value and always will have

the mining power give somehow a value to the coin, or at least make so that the coin will not be just dumped to death, from those that are mining

I also agree on this statement. Mining is the only thing that will define market price for coin. Early adopters and dev himself will always kill POS coin creating so much sell force whenever POS coin get listed in exchange for quick profit. No any investors are out there to hold those POS for atleast one year for interest.

I love POW and like to mine them on the early days and stake them for few months and sell when difficulty sky rockets for mining.

Mining is just a method to protect the network from bad behavior, it does not set the price since the cost of mining any coin is different depending on many factors

Mining early on PoW and then dumping when the difficulty goes up does not help a coin network or value

The value of a coin (or anything) is based on supply and demand. Mining affects supply only

So pos is still the best than pow? my problem is i heard that someone are trying to mine with his laptop but his laptop cover is melt because of very hot gpu.. i have only low specs computer and laptop i just want to choose the best one if mining or staking.. for me mining is good and staking is good too.. but i dont understand about pos because i bought many credits in my wallet and staking and i just increase the amount to stake more but the same stakes result.. unlike mining the more gpu you have the more you mined. and i think its the best to mine in cold places or aircondition place.. so that my devices can cool down..

POS is more energy efficient and less wasteful. It is also not hard on processors (ASICs, GPU, etc.) since it is not performing the same operations. POS coins can be staked on a raspberrypi, for mining a pi can only act as the controller while the mining gear burns electricity

When you buy more POS coins your stake reward should go up. It is a percentage of the coins you hold but some coins have a minimum age so they may not stake right away which could have been the problem with other coins you have tried

BigUp stakes immediately so you would not have that problem and the return is ideal

Here is a post that explains this very well:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1367075.msg14404134#msg14404134

You can usually stake many coins on the same computer with POS, even on a pi using ROKOS, you can't do the same with mining. Yes you can merge mine but you can stake more with POS and use a lot less enegry on cheaper hardware

[Billhill]

The pow reward is for strong network i always prefer this one more power and energie mean more money on it

[BitcoinNational]

go with UNO if you want POW / peace of mind
Top 5 strongest hash powered chain on planet EARTH!

but i also think POS
NXT
BLK

and a few others are safe as can be (but much less hash protection in consensus you will trust)

[socks435]

Yeah good to know about raspberry pi how about the firmware or program about raspberry pi to run pos inside the raspberry pi.. i want to have one to for a cheapest price.. cbx still working on it and i am waiting for the release.. ..
Since our place is very hot i will choose pos for now.. i will start mining in december if i already buy aircondition..

[BigUpGiddyup]

Yeah good to know about raspberry pi how about the firmware or program about raspberry pi to run pos inside the raspberry pi.. i want to have one to for a cheapest price.. cbx still working on it and i am waiting for the release.. ..
Since our place is very hot i will choose pos for now.. i will start mining in december if i already buy aircondition..

Rokos.space this is the best operation of newbs to use POS on the raspberry pi, it already comes with many wallets installed. You just open the wallet (we will say blackcoin for this example) like blackcoin, it will download the blockchain and have a receive address. You send coins to that address from a trading site and those coins start staking. Simple as that.

AND, he won't need to get air conditioning, he can start right away

[kiklo]

Yeah good to know about raspberry pi how about the firmware or program about raspberry pi to run pos inside the raspberry pi.. i want to have one to for a cheapest price.. cbx still working on it and i am waiting for the release.. ..
Since our place is very hot i will choose pos for now.. i will start mining in december if i already buy aircondition..

Rokos.space this is the best operation of newbs to use POS on the raspberry pi, it already comes with many wallets installed. You just open the wallet (we will say blackcoin for this example) like blackcoin, it will download the blockchain and have a receive address. You send coins to that address from a trading site and those coins start staking. Simple as that.

AND, he won't need to get air conditioning, he can start right away

1: Not every PoS coin supports raspberry pi, so that should be checked first, if he wants a specific PoS coin.

2: It does have a operating temperature range as do all electronics

http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/103/whats-the-maximum-minimum-running-temperature

What is the usable temperature range?

The Raspberry Pi is built from commercial chips which are qualified to different temperature ranges; the LAN9512 is specified by the manufacturers being qualified from 0°C to 70°C, while the AP is qualified from -40°C to 85°C. You may well find that the board will work outside those temperatures, but we’re not qualifying the board itself to these extremes.

70 degrees celsius = 156 degrees Fahrenheit
A extra Fan blowing on it , may keep it in below max temp

FYI:
If the Air is humid , no issues,
If the Air is dry below 39%, dry air blown constantly over electronics will cause a static charge build up, that can interfere with it operations.

 

[socks435]

Yeah good to know about raspberry pi how about the firmware or program about raspberry pi to run pos inside the raspberry pi.. i want to have one to for a cheapest price.. cbx still working on it and i am waiting for the release.. ..
Since our place is very hot i will choose pos for now.. i will start mining in december if i already buy aircondition..

Rokos.space this is the best operation of newbs to use POS on the raspberry pi, it already comes with many wallets installed. You just open the wallet (we will say blackcoin for this example) like blackcoin, it will download the blockchain and have a receive address. You send coins to that address from a trading site and those coins start staking. Simple as that.

But the problem is where can get a firmware for raspberry pi to install wallet or vault inside raspberry pi..
Or you can request a firmware from developers? i have some stacks of raspberyy pi here in my house i can format some of them i just it before for programing cellphones and now some of them are expired so its better to change the firmware of this pi and change it into a wallet pos..

[BigUpGiddyup]

Yeah good to know about raspberry pi how about the firmware or program about raspberry pi to run pos inside the raspberry pi.. i want to have one to for a cheapest price.. cbx still working on it and i am waiting for the release.. ..
Since our place is very hot i will choose pos for now.. i will start mining in december if i already buy aircondition..

Rokos.space this is the best operation of newbs to use POS on the raspberry pi, it already comes with many wallets installed. You just open the wallet (we will say blackcoin for this example) like blackcoin, it will download the blockchain and have a receive address. You send coins to that address from a trading site and those coins start staking. Simple as that.

But the problem is where can get a firmware for raspberry pi to install wallet or vault inside raspberry pi..
Or you can request a firmware from developers? i have some stacks of raspberyy pi here in my house i can format some of them i just it before for programing cellphones and now some of them are expired so its better to change the firmware of this pi and change it into a wallet pos..

ROKOS Flavors is what you are looking for:

http://rokos.space/downloads.html

An update will be coming very soon that has even more coins already included (including BigUp)

[socks435]

Yeah good to know about raspberry pi how about the firmware or program about raspberry pi to run pos inside the raspberry pi.. i want to have one to for a cheapest price.. cbx still working on it and i am waiting for the release.. ..
Since our place is very hot i will choose pos for now.. i will start mining in december if i already buy aircondition..

Rokos.space this is the best operation of newbs to use POS on the raspberry pi, it already comes with many wallets installed. You just open the wallet (we will say blackcoin for this example) like blackcoin, it will download the blockchain and have a receive address. You send coins to that address from a trading site and those coins start staking. Simple as that.

But the problem is where can get a firmware for raspberry pi to install wallet or vault inside raspberry pi..
Or you can request a firmware from developers? i have some stacks of raspberyy pi here in my house i can format some of them i just it before for programing cellphones and now some of them are expired so its better to change the firmware of this pi and change it into a wallet pos..

ROKOS Flavors is what you are looking for:

http://rokos.space/downloads.html

An update will be coming very soon that has even more coins already included (including BigUp)

only bigup is supported how about other altcoin? and the command codes for that firmware one to try this firmware after removing the smartcard of my raspberry pi.. and i hope more altcoin can stake at that firmware,..

[airezx20]

For me the best is pos.. i just use vps and install wallet and staking my coins 24/7.. i dont need raspberry pi.. because don't have extra money to buy raspberry.. also mining for now is increase difficulty day by day.. and it can destroy your desktop or laptop..

[BigUpGiddyup]

Yeah good to know about raspberry pi how about the firmware or program about raspberry pi to run pos inside the raspberry pi.. i want to have one to for a cheapest price.. cbx still working on it and i am waiting for the release.. ..
Since our place is very hot i will choose pos for now.. i will start mining in december if i already buy aircondition..

Rokos.space this is the best operation of newbs to use POS on the raspberry pi, it already comes with many wallets installed. You just open the wallet (we will say blackcoin for this example) like blackcoin, it will download the blockchain and have a receive address. You send coins to that address from a trading site and those coins start staking. Simple as that.

But the problem is where can get a firmware for raspberry pi to install wallet or vault inside raspberry pi..
Or you can request a firmware from developers? i have some stacks of raspberyy pi here in my house i can format some of them i just it before for programing cellphones and now some of them are expired so its better to change the firmware of this pi and change it into a wallet pos..

ROKOS Flavors is what you are looking for:

http://rokos.space/downloads.html

An update will be coming very soon that has even more coins already included (including BigUp)

only bigup is supported how about other altcoin? and the command codes for that firmware one to try this firmware after removing the smartcard of my raspberry pi.. and i hope more altcoin can stake at that firmware,..

BigUp is going to be a permanent addition in the next release but ROKOS supports many other coins too

The currently supported coins are listed here:

http://rokos.space/cryptocurrencies.html

[socks435]

Yeah good to know about raspberry pi how about the firmware or program about raspberry pi to run pos inside the raspberry pi.. i want to have one to for a cheapest price.. cbx still working on it and i am waiting for the release.. ..
Since our place is very hot i will choose pos for now.. i will start mining in december if i already buy aircondition..

Rokos.space this is the best operation of newbs to use POS on the raspberry pi, it already comes with many wallets installed. You just open the wallet (we will say blackcoin for this example) like blackcoin, it will download the blockchain and have a receive address. You send coins to that address from a trading site and those coins start staking. Simple as that.

But the problem is where can get a firmware for raspberry pi to install wallet or vault inside raspberry pi..
Or you can request a firmware from developers? i have some stacks of raspberyy pi here in my house i can format some of them i just it before for programing cellphones and now some of them are expired so its better to change the firmware of this pi and change it into a wallet pos..

ROKOS Flavors is what you are looking for:

http://rokos.space/downloads.html

An update will be coming very soon that has even more coins already included (including BigUp)

only bigup is supported how about other altcoin? and the command codes for that firmware one to try this firmware after removing the smartcard of my raspberry pi.. and i hope more altcoin can stake at that firmware,..

BigUp is going to be a permanent addition in the next release but ROKOS supports many other coins too

The currently supported coins are listed here:

http://rokos.space/cryptocurrencies.html

Looks like more altcoin are accepted also bitcoin can mine using this firmware? looks liek this is interesting it would be better i try it first before i can decide to install it in my raspberry pi now i backuping the firmware of my torando pi.. and trying this firmware..

[twostepsally]

pos is trash, there is not a single pos coin that can give you a decent value just by staking, because the mint return is always so low it's not worth it

this because the whole pos thing would otherwise be a dump fest, that's way every pos coin out there has a bad value and always will have

the mining power give somehow a value to the coin, or at least make so that the coin will not be just dumped to death, from those that are mining

I just can't agree with you. Not everybody has the chance (and ability) to mine coins. Many people could be happy with their $2-5 earnings from staking and there is a good chance for them to hold their coins. Thus can lighten the sell pressure and could give the possibility for the coin to grow in a long term period (if things are done right).

I agree. Pos is great.
The people that dont like pos are miners that dont want the general public involved in their tech game of mining which means more money for them.

Pos gives the opportunity for the average person to mint coins. They dont have the time nor the interest in the mining pow process due to having a life, making money at businesses etc...

Furthermore,  the majority of people confuse a pos of 5% with a savings account earning 5% from a bank. Keep in mind that you are getting 5% of minted coins that range from pennies to a half dollar and more. What this means is that your stake value is more like 25-50% value in dollars.

[Ayers]

For me the best is pos.. i just use vps and install wallet and staking my coins 24/7.. i dont need raspberry pi.. because don't have extra money to buy raspberry.. also mining for now is increase difficulty day by day.. and it can destroy your desktop or laptop..

it can not destroy your desktop, lol at best your laptop, and not immediately, this is a commond falalcy, to think that hw fall so easily, i don't like pos because they have very low value, and their interest is lower than a faucets, it's pointless to me to have a pos coin

[BitMaxz]

For me the best is pos.. i just use vps and install wallet and staking my coins 24/7.. i dont need raspberry pi.. because don't have extra money to buy raspberry.. also mining for now is increase difficulty day by day.. and it can destroy your desktop or laptop..

it can not destroy your desktop, lol at best your laptop, and not immediately, this is a commond falalcy, to think that hw fall so easily, i don't like pos because they have very low value, and their interest is lower than a faucets, it's pointless to me to have a pos coin

But some altcoin like cbx the more you have high amount in your wallet the more rewards you can get.. so for its just like the same as mining with asic miner if you buy high hardware speed the more you can  get reward.. using asic miner is for rich people that can buy high speed hardware.. to mine altcoin.i never heard as of now mining destroyed desktop but i saw laptop gpu mining destroy the laptop..
So if you really want to mine use gpu mining instead.. staking cbx with raspberry pi they are released it now already..