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April 30, 2016, 01:20:30 AM
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I like people to use their brain when it comes to money.
Gamblers get decieved by that word provably fair.
Now check this. To verify a roll , sites use this:
Client seed
Server seed
Random seed
Server hash
Now you input your client seed.
We assume server give out its seed
Server hash is gotten whatever way it gotten.
NOW WHAT THE FUCK IS RANDOM SEED???
WHO GIVES THIS RANDOM SEED???
Let's say you are betting 5btc on a 50%  chance.
It's very possible for the random seed to be coded with a value to make you loose. Since its possible that the random seed might be fixed by the owner of the site.
Also, I don't see any way to easily verify rolls on betking. Offcourse there will be a way to verify there but bet king makes it aa little difficult to verify. This way lazy gamblers won't even mind verifying.
Also, prime dice and betking DONT give you full history of your bets. How do you verify after a couple of rolls?
Primedice, rollin, betking and the rest should explain this shit.
ALSO , BEFORE YOU COME COMMENTING SHIT, I AM NOT LOOSING IN ANY IF THESE SITES. I KNOW HOW TO USE THEIR SO CALLED SCAM TO MY ADVANTAGE.
POSITING THIS COS OF THE IDIOTS I SEE LOOSING THOUSANDS IF DOLLARS TO THESE SCUMBAGS.
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April 30, 2016, 01:24:22 AM
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I like people to use their brain when it comes to money.
Gamblers get decieved by that word provably fair.
Now check this. To verify a roll , sites use this:
Client seed
Server seed
Random seed
Server hash
Now you input your client seed.
We assume server give out its seed
Server hash is gotten whatever way it gotten.
NOW WHAT THE FUCK IS RANDOM SEED???
WHO GIVES THIS RANDOM SEED???

Let's say you are betting 5btc on a 50%  chance.
It's very possible for the random seed to be coded with a value to make you loose. Since its possible that the random seed might be fixed by the owner of the site.
Also, I don't see any way to easily verify rolls on betking. Offcourse there will be a way to verify there but bet king makes it aa little difficult to verify. This way lazy gamblers won't even mind verifying.
Also, prime dice and betking to give you history of your bets. How do you verify after a couple of rolls?
Primedice, rollin, betking and the rest should explain this shit.
ALSO , BEFORE YOU COME COMMENTING SHIT, I AM NOT LOOSING IN ANY IF THESE SITES. I KNOW HOW TO USE THEIR SO CALLED SCAM TO MY ADVANTAGE.
POSITING THIS COS OF THE IDIOTS I SEE LOOSING THOUSANDS IF DOLLARS TO THESE SCUMBAGS.

Random seed is generated by your browser.... you can use third party site to verify your past rolls for primedice,rollin,betking

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April 30, 2016, 01:33:59 AM
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That's the verification am against.
For example if  a+b+c+d=F,  and you expecting a result below 50 as your outcome, I could give you these results 20+14+20+10=64
Now you get 64 and lose your cash. When you verify it, the result will be 64 and will show you VERIFED usING any calculator in this case a verifier. That dosnt mean I didn't manipulate the numbers.
It only means it has been proved that 20+14+20+10=64
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April 30, 2016, 01:31:41 PM
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And why does pd and betking delete bet history. Most gamblers will like to very  after they finish gambling. This 2 sites make this impossible
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April 30, 2016, 01:33:59 PM
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And why does pd and betking delete bet history. Most gamblers will like to very  after they finish gambling. This 2 sites make this impossible

I think today you have lost much in dice sites..Right?
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April 30, 2016, 01:36:41 PM
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He will say he won a lot but he probably lost  a ton and complaining if you don't understand shit about provably fair don't talk about it. And if you got  a problem with it ignore and don't open that disgusting mouth of yours spewing profanity everywhere.

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April 30, 2016, 01:55:43 PM
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He will say he won a lot but he probably lost  a ton and complaining if you don't understand shit about provably fair don't talk about it. And if you got  a problem with it ignore and don't open that disgusting mouth of yours spewing profanity everywhere.
What an idiot. Why the fuck will I loose and claim to win.
The people that know me know I don't loose. No bragging.
If I knew your mom, I will fist her for not aborting a useless idiot like you
Its been confirmed this guys an idiot  Grin your mother should have swallowed for making a disgusting lying mouth as yours.

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April 30, 2016, 02:03:29 PM
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He will say he won a lot but he probably lost  a ton and complaining if you don't understand shit about provably fair don't talk about it. And if you got  a problem with it ignore and don't open that disgusting mouth of yours spewing profanity everywhere.
What an idiot. Why the fuck will I loose and claim to win.
The people that know me know I don't loose. No bragging.
If I knew your mom, I will fist her for not aborting a useless idiot like you
Its been confirmed this guys an idiot  Grin your mother should have swallowed for making a disgusting lying mouth as yours.
People like you are the reason why condom was created but you stupid father was too stupid to use one. I bet he regretting now.
Poor idiots like you will always rant cos you  believe everybody looses and is as poor as you

I should have listened to the saying there's no point talking to an idiot it will get you nowhere.

"It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt." - Mark Twain
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April 30, 2016, 02:03:42 PM
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THAT'S WHAT IDIOTS SAY WHEN THEY KNOW THEY GOT NOTHING STUPID TO RANT OUT
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April 30, 2016, 02:05:50 PM
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He will say he won a lot but he probably lost  a ton and complaining if you don't understand shit about provably fair don't talk about it. And if you got  a problem with it ignore and don't open that disgusting mouth of yours spewing profanity everywhere.
What an idiot. Why the fuck will I loose and claim to win.
The people that know me know I don't loose. No bragging.
If I knew your mom, I will fist her for not aborting a useless idiot like you
Its been confirmed this guys an idiot  Grin your mother should have swallowed for making a disgusting lying mouth as yours.
People like you are the reason why condom was created but you stupid father was too stupid to use one. I bet he regretting now.
Poor idiots like you will always rant cos you  believe everybody looses and is as poor as you

I should have listened to the saying there's no point talking to an idiot it will get you nowhere.

"It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt." - Mark Twain
Lol wtf. You created another account just now only to reply to this thread? Hahaha looser will always loose. You are a definition of a PRICK
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April 30, 2016, 03:11:47 PM
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Sometimes I wonder how trolls like you function well enough to learn how to buy their own BTC, let alone gamble it.
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April 30, 2016, 04:18:47 PM
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Looks like we have another loser here who cant accept his lost and posted his rant. Be a man and if you cant swallow defeat don't gamble. Gambling is for real men! Grow up!
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April 30, 2016, 07:21:30 PM
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I think if someone put 5 BTC on dice throw and doesn't have minimum 200 more to repeat that bet then that person is crazy.
I don`t have some special knowledge about that seeds, I play on good sites and sometimes I win, sometimes I lose. Its kind a normal thing in gambling. Sometimes I have feeling like casino work for me, what bets I win its just crazy. Sometimes I have such bed luck that I cant believe what I miss.
Personally I never had doubts about that provably fair, when I lose I question myself and my bets to not repeat same mistakes again. Doesn't matter is it some lucky based game or poker.




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April 30, 2016, 07:33:35 PM
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Random seed is unnecessary and not all sites are using it.
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April 30, 2016, 07:47:40 PM
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Most of these sites are not being regulated and there are no independent body responsible to audit their systems. So most sites just put "Provably Fair" on their site to fool people to trust them. The

house always win, whatever the seed might be... Why, because the players come back and lose all the winnings in any way. Your account are being monitored and checked for cheating, but it's ok for

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May 01, 2016, 07:27:34 AM
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I like people to use their brain when it comes to money.
Gamblers get decieved by that word provably fair.
Now check this. To verify a roll , sites use this:
Client seed
Server seed
Random seed
Server hash
Now you input your client seed.
We assume server give out its seed
Server hash is gotten whatever way it gotten.
NOW WHAT THE FUCK IS RANDOM SEED???
WHO GIVES THIS RANDOM SEED???
Let's say you are betting 5btc on a 50%  chance.
It's very possible for the random seed to be coded with a value to make you loose. Since its possible that the random seed might be fixed by the owner of the site.
Also, I don't see any way to easily verify rolls on betking. Offcourse there will be a way to verify there but bet king makes it aa little difficult to verify. This way lazy gamblers won't even mind verifying.
Also, prime dice and betking DONT give you full history of your bets. How do you verify after a couple of rolls?
Primedice, rollin, betking and the rest should explain this shit.
ALSO , BEFORE YOU COME COMMENTING SHIT, I AM NOT LOOSING IN ANY IF THESE SITES. I KNOW HOW TO USE THEIR SO CALLED SCAM TO MY ADVANTAGE.
POSITING THIS COS OF THE IDIOTS I SEE LOOSING THOUSANDS IF DOLLARS TO THESE SCUMBAGS.

You seem very angry. I don't either trust this so called "provably fair" you never know of there's a way to change anything. That's why I don't use sites that seem dodgy. But I have only noticed something funny on two sites. The rest seem fine. I don't think being regulated will make much difference if you want that play with fiat money. And being unregulated is what bitcoin about anyway so it doesn't go well with it.
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May 01, 2016, 08:02:00 AM
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in the first place, unless you have access to it server, take a look at the code and make sense out of it, otherwise anything can also be programmed to let you lose. you need to have evidence to proof what you claimed.
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May 01, 2016, 08:51:44 AM
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That's the house rules, so if anyone has a doubt on gambling in dice sites they then you know where the door is. Most of the gamblers who complains are those who are losers, nothing new here. It's just play of leave.

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May 01, 2016, 08:58:18 AM
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It is being practiced as standard for online gambling industry on which almost everyone is agree.I really don't care as my bets are limited and overall winning ratio is quite good.As long as the played bet can be verified by seed I am to be satisfied on this regardless of the site.
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